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Grand Fromage posted:https://twitter.com/jnchien/status/1345228646282235906 世界明星嘻哈点 com
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Imagine Falun Gong affiliated media would ever report untrue information. Oh right, that's where I'd heard of NTD before.
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Jan 3, 2021 17:59
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I haven't seen this reported widely, but maybe Jack Ma hosed up? https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/jack-ma-missing-232138645.html quote:Chinese billionaire Jack Ma suspected missing
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Jan 4, 2021 13:06
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Jan 4, 2021 13:36
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CIGNX posted:I haven't seen this reported widely, but maybe Jack Ma hosed up? Welp, he’s dead. I’m not sure where the line is between getting disappeared and getting Fan Bingbing’d but I know his net worth is well north of it.
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A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit
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Jan 4, 2021 15:01
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RIP Jack Ma, your head reached critical mass.
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Jan 4, 2021 15:08
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I hope this means some big closeout sales on Taobao/Aliexpress at least.
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Jan 4, 2021 15:10
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Honestly consistently surprised at how many heads are ending up on the chopping block. I mean, I shouldn't be at this point... but still.
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Jan 4, 2021 15:41
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RIP, Chinese MODOK.
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Jan 4, 2021 15:53
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Maybe China's not so bad after all if they're actually willing to kill billionaires
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Jan 4, 2021 16:17
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Maybe China's not so bad after all if they're actually willing to kill billionaires the only reason they're killing this billionaire is because he ended up in the wrong billionaire faction (jiang zemin's family has a massive stake in alibaba and alipay)
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Jan 4, 2021 16:37
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I defer to the China experts, but do people actually think he's dead? Isn't the general MO for people to disappear and then come back mysteriously chastened and toeing the party line? Seems like a pretty embarrassingly large and public-facing scalp to take.
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Has anyone checked the decommissioned daycares and schools around Shanghai? He might be staying at one with some friends.
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Jan 4, 2021 17:31
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Fang BingBing (the actress lady) popped up briefly after she got disappeared to say it was tax evasion. She has since vanished again as far as I know, so China has no problem vanishing influential people.
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Jeza posted:I defer to the China experts, but do people actually think he's dead? Isn't the general MO for people to disappear and then come back mysteriously chastened and toeing the party line? Seems like a pretty embarrassingly large and public-facing scalp to take. The MO is for them to make a brief appearance to tow the party line and then never appear again except in rare circumstances. Zhao Ziyang is the reform oriented guy who tried to warn the Tiananmen square protestors, and after Deng cracked down he vanished and only got wheeled out during official events to wave a little bit before being put back in his prison.
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SerCypher posted:Fang BingBing (the actress lady) popped up briefly after she got disappeared to say it was tax evasion. She has since vanished again as far as I know, so China has no problem vanishing influential people. I honestly had never heard of her until just now, but seems like she's in an upcoming non-Chinese film so I guess she isn't truly vanished. She gave a puff piece interview to some Italian fashion mag a couple days ago. Not trying to be contrary though, just in case people were wondering if she was rotting in a prison cell or something.
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Jeoh posted:the only reason they're killing this billionaire is because he ended up in the wrong billionaire faction (jiang zemin's family has a massive stake in alibaba and alipay) Yep, it’s basically what happens in the aftermath of a mob war, not some socialist thing.
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Jeza posted:I honestly had never heard of her until just now, but seems like she's in an upcoming non-Chinese film so I guess she isn't truly vanished. She gave a puff piece interview to some Italian fashion mag a couple days ago. Not trying to be contrary though, just in case people were wondering if she was rotting in a prison cell or something. If so then man she is lucky.
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Jeza posted:I defer to the China experts, but do people actually think he's dead? Isn't the general MO for people to disappear and then come back mysteriously chastened and toeing the party line? Seems like a pretty embarrassingly large and public-facing scalp to take. Yeah I doubt he's dead. He's probably going to show up in a few months or a year with a pre-baked apology for not kowtowing hard enough and a promise to do better in the future. This is just high level face culture nonsense. If Xi wanted him dead, he wouldn't be quiet about it. That's not how he's ever operated.
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CIGNX posted:I haven't seen this reported widely, but maybe Jack Ma hosed up? He hosed up when he didn't go "on vacation" out of China the minute they started coming at his companies. Jeza posted:I defer to the China experts, but do people actually think he's dead? Isn't the general MO for people to disappear and then come back mysteriously chastened and toeing the party line? Seems like a pretty embarrassingly large and public-facing scalp to take. He's not dead. That's a blunt instrument the Party doesn't need to use anymore. He'll show up again to apologize and talk about how wrong he was. He may even go back to work so he can bring his business in line with what the Party wants. Or he'll retire and spend the rest of his life being closely watched and occasionally brought out to talk about how great Xi is.
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i had a lively discussion about ma with a chinese expat co-worker of mine yesterday and we also agreed that it's unlikely he's actually dead. the question we couldn't agree on is whether or not he has gone to ground independently or if he's been interdicted by the CCP. i favor the latter because Ma was still making plans for public appearances up until the day he vanished, but my co-worker thinks that he probably just grabbed the world's fanciest bug-out bag with one of his dozen alternate identities and is now in some panamanian resort sipping girly drinks and scrolling through threads like this one on his phone in between ogling tourists.
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Jan 4, 2021 23:21
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How can the man with the World's Largest Head go incognito?
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Jan 4, 2021 23:39
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He's the closest guarded secret of the William Tell convention.
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in the case of him hacing run away it would not be a resort, just an island he owns he prolly didnt run away
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Collateral posted:Its got to be a psyop to piss off pla recruits (or does pla conscript?). If you were an enemy signal corp what would you do if the enemy turned up with these helmets? Get some specials to nick a controller then murder every mf with one of those helmets. In some other thread it was mentioned that you have to pay the PLA to join or something like that. Also the PLA soliders are under trained because bullets cost money, and most of their training is about beating up chinese people one province over. I think the internal workings of the CCP is basically a giant mass of paranoia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs politics is troublesome with XI removing term limits he s basically an emperor and he has to worry about his supporters turning on him, So disloyalty real or imagined must be stopped. eh now that I think about it the kill helemts are good idea if you want to comand an army that exisit to fight its own people. Someone in the PLA tries to Go against Xi boom kill comand. Remember to Xi wanted to monderize the PLA and that means shedding PLA jobs and posts and there was/is a tradition of putting decomissioned PLA officers is State owned Enterprises where they would draw a pay check and if your luck just not work vs trying to work and loving poo poo up.
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Ups_rail posted:politics is troublesome with XI removing term limits he s basically an emperor and he has to worry about his supporters turning on him, So disloyalty real or imagined must be stopped. Waiting for someone to publicly proclaim Xi has lost the mandate of heaven. Does the CCP have a jade seal for someone to find in a well?
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Re: the Fan Bing Bing dissapearing. I always assumed that the CCP was worried about how many rich people were hiding their money in Vancouver apartments, and other such schemes designed to not pay Chinese taxes/bribes etc. So they disappeared Fan Bing Bing, to show that even if you are famous and loved, you are not above a black bagging. And the quickness that she managed to sell 40 apartments to pay her bill, and because she is an actor the apparent sincerity she displayed when reading out her "I'm so sorry i have betrayed Xinnie the Pooh" speech has let her get away relatively scott free.. Essentially I always assumed Fan Bing Bing was a warning to the other millionaire tax cheats on Mainland China to buck their ideas up or else. Bear in mind, that I could be very easily misreading the whole situation, and misinterpreting everything.
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SerCypher posted:Fang BingBing (the actress lady) popped up briefly after she got disappeared to say it was tax evasion. She has since vanished again as far as I know, so China has no problem vanishing influential people. Maybe she's on OnlyFans 
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BrigadierSensible posted:Re: the Fan Bing Bing dissapearing. Apparently the issue was with Fan's "double-contracts", there's a hard limit on how much of a Chinese film's budget can be spent on actor salaries, solely to prevent actors from getting too rich too quickly. So studios create shadow contracts with actors to pay them in addition to the meager one that's on the books. It cleared up once she coughed up enough money and publicly declared that she and other actors cannot succeed without the CCP's approval. So it's a clear question of taxes, but the initial problem is just a symptom of the CCP's arbitrary curbs on whatever they deem to be "extravagant lifestyles" Mechafunkzilla posted:Maybe China's not so bad after all if they're actually willing to kill billionaires This is nice and all, but literally only happens to enrich other billionaires with better party connections. It's hilarious that so many twitter tankies think Jack Ma has been vanished for exploiting workers.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Re: the Fan Bing Bing dissapearing. Holy poo poo how much did she owe in taxes?
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McGavin posted:Who is Xi's billionaire technocrat?
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ren zhengfei also
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McGavin posted:Who is Xi's billionaire technocrat? Xi's family has huge financial stakes in SOEs, so it's in his own financial interest to prop them up and cut off the competition.
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je1 healthcare posted:Xi's family has huge financial stakes in SOEs, so it's in his own financial interest to prop them up and cut off the competition. Oh cool so he's just an unambiguous fascist, that makes it much simpler.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the gulaging actual communists and declaring himself leader for life didnt clue you in? There's a difference between a tin-pot dictator and a Fascist.
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