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Jedit posted:Things fall apart; the centre says "Of course this is terrible, but think how much worse it would have been under Corbyn/Sanders". Yup, pretty much that exact sentiment from my Mother in law. "I can't believe what an atrocious job Boris Johnson is doing. Just thank goodness we don't have Jeremy Corbyn in charge'. Utterly infuriating.
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Guavanaut posted:First as tragedy, then as farce, then as endlessly repeating farces until the planet cooks. Eugene Terre'Blanche is a bit on the nose for a white supremacist.
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Jan 7, 2021 12:27
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Guavanaut posted:I wish I could say that the writing has gotten more believable recently but "Trump fascism and gamergate are unrelated"
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Guavanaut posted:I wish I could say that the writing has gotten more believable recently but Naziroquai.
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Guavanaut posted:I wish I could say that the writing has gotten more believable recently but (Stolen from Twitter, but I swear I had this idea when I saw that picture.) https://twitter.com/DaftLimmy/status/1346937841234944001?s=19 Greetings, traveler! To your east, sedition is occurring, to your west, insurrection is occurring. There are exits to the north and south, one blocked by white supremacists, one by capitol police! What would you like to do, traveler? Kill Democracy. Democracy is our friend, she’s here to help us! Kill Democracy!
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Cyril Sneeer posted:both my sister and my bro-in-law work for the nhs so I am wary about taking the piss out of this. but at the same time tho ( and I have talked to my sis about this) what they want is better hours/pay. i work in the NHS. most people think it's a load of shite. nurses in particular are generally actually very jaded people. tending to someone dying with faecal emesis with do that to a person i suppose :/
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Jan 7, 2021 13:10
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I haven't checked but I'm assuming the Guardian is still letting John Harris do his weekly "I spoke to some fascists and they are actually very reasonable" videos?
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Some people might think finding fascists reasonable is a reflection on the person listening. But some people don't have the axiomatic belief that they are the arbiters of political wisdom that write for the guardian.
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Jan 7, 2021 13:23
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Tomberforce posted:Yup, pretty much that exact sentiment from my Mother in law. "I can't believe what an atrocious job Boris Johnson is doing. Just thank goodness we don't have Jeremy Corbyn in charge'. To be honest, things might have been worse with him in charge. Not because he would have made worse decisions, he absolutely wouldn't, but because everyone right of the Socialist Campaign Group in both politics and the media would be screaming about Stalinist Fascism when it came to lockdowns, furlough payments, etc and none of that would have gotten done. We could be doing the Sweden model right now.
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Fascists are often reasonable sounding when you're speaking to them individually, it's when they're in groups kicking your head in that they're less reasonable sounding. The liberal attitude that treats everyone as isolated individuals isn't very capable of considering that these are the same people and the only thing that has changed is the environment.
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It is depressing how predictable this is https://twitter.com/ClientJournoExp/status/1347149942855503873?s=20
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Jan 7, 2021 13:33
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Guavanaut posted:Fascists are often reasonable sounding when you're speaking to them individually, it's when they're in groups kicking your head in that they're less reasonable sounding. Fascism literally develops specifically as the counter and poison to liberalism. calmhitler.jpg isn't far off, they specifically rehearse and develop doublespeak and talking points to launder their abhorrent beliefs and desires through filters of  and keep around token minorities as useful spokespeople who can and will be disposed of the moment they're no longer convenient.
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Continuing the podcast's sense of impeccable timing to catch a slow news day, here's the new episode. We really worked hard to get all the 'rona and Labour poo poo while it was still going on, and then the Americans went and did a thing. Oh well. https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1347158666114437120?s=20
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Guavanaut posted:I wish I could say that the writing has gotten more believable recently but Why does half naked horny man have a penis tattooed on his stomach? (also, there goes America making us look like a strong and stable country again!)
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Junior G-man posted:Continuing the podcast's sense of impeccable timing to catch a slow news day, here's the new episode. Are these on Spotify? I want to listen but don't want to have to sit in headphones to do so (I can stream spotify on my tv).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Are these on Spotify? I want to listen but don't want to have to sit in headphones to do so (I can stream spotify on my tv). just looked and they are https://open.spotify.com/show/1WuGVosgeZEDrCeWlg4pkr?si=pnRKH767Ti6qyuHviU_Hng
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There are a few people who have done the 'Cover the US like the US covers third world countries', but the first was Joshua Keating in Slate, I think."From the first government shutdown posted:This is the first installment of “If It Happened There,” a regular feature in which American events are described using the tropes and tone normally employed by the American media to describe events in other countries. https://slate.com/news-and-politics...er-country.html Other people like Karen Attiah have used the same style. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/29/how-western-media-would-cover-minneapolis-if-it-happened-another-country/
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Grey Hunter posted:Why does half naked horny man have a penis tattooed on his stomach? You bastards voted Tory and started Brexit so we had to double down with Trump. You knew that and went and completed the whole brexit thing anyhow. We *had* to one up you. This is all your fault.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Are these on Spotify? I want to listen but don't want to have to sit in headphones to do so (I can stream spotify on my tv). Yes, that's how I roll.
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Beefeater1980 posted:One of the great pleasures of our current turbulent times has been watching centrists gradually radicalise: Joly's really one of the better ones, but these people aren't radicalising, they're returning to normal. For years these people considered themselves left-wing, and probably even radical. They complained about Tony Blair being too far right. But when the actual possibility of real positive change arose, they all slunk into their true selves. Now that the threat of anything worthwhile being done appears to have receded, they're slowly returning to their ideal forms - being able to passionately complain about injustice, safe in the knowledge that nothing will actually change and they won't be effected.
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Bel Shazar posted:You bastards voted Tory and started Brexit so we had to double down with Trump. You knew that and went and completed the whole brexit thing anyhow. We *had* to one up you. Oh god, Boris is scheming how he can one up this, isn't he. We'll be at war with the French over fishing by the end of the year.....
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XMNN posted:just looked and they are Fab thanks. I didn't think to do that! Grey Hunter posted:Oh god, Boris is scheming how he can one up this, isn't he. The funniest thing about this is that the main disputes so far have been with Norway, Greenland and Faroes none of which are in the EU but which brexit has affected in ways which obviously the leavers all knew and understood because they always claim they knew what they were voting for. My Norwegian friend thinks it's hilarious. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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Grey Hunter posted:We'll be at war with the French over fishing by the end of the year..... Iceland. And then we'll lose, somehow. Again.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Joly's really one of the better ones, but these people aren't radicalising, they're returning to normal. For years these people considered themselves left-wing, and probably even radical. They complained about Tony Blair being too far right. But when the actual possibility of real positive change arose, they all slunk into their true selves. Now that the threat of anything worthwhile being done appears to have receded, they're slowly returning to their ideal forms - being able to passionately complain about injustice, safe in the knowledge that nothing will actually change and they won't be effected. Yyyyep Never forget just how quickly the guardian and everyone working for it about turned on all their ideals once Corbyn got in
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Communist Thoughts posted:Yyyyep Comrade Fakename posted:Joly's really one of the better ones, but these people aren't radicalising, they're returning to normal. For years these people considered themselves left-wing, and probably even radical. They complained about Tony Blair being too far right. But when the actual possibility of real positive change arose, they all slunk into their true selves. Now that the threat of anything worthwhile being done appears to have receded, they're slowly returning to their ideal forms - being able to passionately complain about injustice, safe in the knowledge that nothing will actually change and they won't be effected. It's just literally this: 
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's just literally this: It's actually kind of the opposite. They were always calling for better things, and then when the needle unexpectedly hit the point where they were actually viable they bitterly complained about it. e: I'm an idiot and didn't notice the edits to the famous cartoon.
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Comrade Fakename posted:It's actually kind of the opposite. They were always calling for better things, and then when the needle unexpectedly hit the point where they were actually viable they bitterly complained about it. Isn't that what the comic's saying? The more possible the better things are (Corbyn), the more they fight them. Conversely, as depicted, the less possible they are, the more they love them (see: 5 years of rending their garments at how bad the Tories were, pre-Corbyn) E: oops Bobstar fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jan 7, 2021 |
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Are better things possible? Yes Does it mean changing the status quo? Yes Better things aren't possible.
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Bobstar posted:Isn't that what the comic's saying? The more possible the better things are (Corbyn), the more they fight them. Conversely, as depicted, the less possible they are, the more they love them (see: 5 years of rending their garments at how bad the Tories were, pre-Corbyn) You literally quoted my edit where I said I misread the cartoon.
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Comrade Fakename posted:You literally quoted my edit where I said I misread the cartoon. Yes, not sure how I did that, sorry, must have reloaded after reading
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Nothing that we didn't know about @jack and nazis here  https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1347022612535201792
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Guavanaut posted:Nothing that we didn't know about @jack and nazis here drat do I have to sign up for Twitter Premium or something?
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