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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

my strike fund in iraqi dinars is gonna go up uP UP

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The key to making a knife last forever is to never sharpen it.

This is also a good way to lose fingers.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Homocow posted:

I remember being on a flight from germany explaining "at-will employment" to this older german couple and they both looked legit shocked by the concept

"you don't have employment contracts?"

Nope, you can be fired for any reason without any prior warning, lol america

At my last job I looked up some stuff on at-will employment and apparently one technicality here is they need to get you to sign "a contract". So when we got the employee handbook we had to sign a "contract" that said we got the employee handbook, while also making VERY CLEAR that this was NOT IN FACT A CONTRACT AT ALL and the company has NO OBLIGATIONS OR DUTY TO YOU but it still counts to let us use at-will employment rules according to our lawyer pinky swear please do not sue

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

half the freshmen on campus are only there because their parents spent the last decade telling them a college degree was the One Weird Trick a hard-working go-getter like them needs for guaranteed success and prosperity in life. no surprise they're easy marks

I mean no if they're anything like my parents they spent the last decade telling them if they don't get one they'll have to dig ditches for a living and definitely not make enough money (rather than only probably not making enough money)

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

ironic considering that ditch digging is really well paid

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Jel Shaker posted:

ironic considering that ditch digging is really well paid

lol that was exactly what I was thinking, like drat if only I had the foresight to go into ditch digging my mom even loving told me how to do it

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

LastInLine posted:

lol that was exactly what I was thinking, like drat if only I had the foresight to go into ditch digging my mom even loving told me how to do it

Just paid a guy a bunch of cash to dig a new sewer trench at the side of my house, can confirm he makes about the same as I do per hour.

Otoh, I mostly just poo poo post and check my mail so it's not like I made a huge miscalculation

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Those flyers on campuses don't even mention Cutco. They're "Vector Marketing" branded and vague as gently caress about details, but hey, "$15/appointment!" sounds good to broke college kids. Maybe they're offering $25 now.

Kirby vacuums is run the same way, just doesn't use the shady marketing firm name. If I want a Kirby I'll get it from a thrift store someone donated it to when grandma died.

Oh and you always have to buy your own demo set, with either Kirby or Cutco. So kiss several hundred bucks goodbye just taking the "job."

Vector Marketing! that’s who sent the letter

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

vector marketing, way to make your product sound like a virus

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

sunny did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKt8_ZLxUg

human garbage bag
Jan 8, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
is a union a legal entity like a business,where it's registered with the state? is it possible to create an unofficial union, for example a discord server of employees?

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/1346860882056388608

quote:

Award judges cited Moderna’s pricing of its COVID-19 vaccine, which was developed with $1 billion in federal funding. Still, despite the tax-payer backing, Moderna set the estimated prices for its vaccine significantly higher than other vaccine developers.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Oh hey, an actual capitalism dot png:



:patriot:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Angry mobbing can work up a real hunger, so stop on by the angry mob concession stand for some delicious fairground treats

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Shame Boy posted:

Angry mobbing can work up a real hunger, so stop on by the angry mob concession stand for some delicious fairground treats

Couber, the ride sharing app for patriots

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

human garbage bag posted:

is a union a legal entity like a business,where it's registered with the state? is it possible to create an unofficial union, for example a discord server of employees?

you can create an unofficial union - in fact, that's exactly what the Google employees did. but it doesn't get any of the legal powers or protections of an official union, such as the ability to compel dues, the ability to negotiate with the employer in place of the employees, or the right to strike without all the employees being fired. it's not like it's impossible to run labor actions that way, but it's considerably more difficult

it's a carrot-and-stick arrangement. labor law extends a number of perks to organized labor if they jump through the required hoops and create an official organization, but in exchange, the federal government can target that official organization with sanctions or threaten to yank those perks away if the organization gets too uppity

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


human garbage bag posted:

is a union a legal entity like a business,where it's registered with the state? is it possible to create an unofficial union, for example a discord server of employees?

yes you can create an unofficial union, but it not being protected by law often means things will go south for you. HOWEVER, in certain situations where it would have an extremely strong negotiating position (an union of employees that manages to unite a significant portion of the labor in the workplace, especially specialist labor and especially especially labor that knows how to sabotage your business in a significant way like maybe organising a strike just days before finishing a timelined project) the lack of regulations can actually help. It's just pretty rare that's the right way, because the entire system both capitalist and political is so skewed in favor of the capitalist.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Oooooh Trump is hosed now, oil interests are getting involved.

That's the military against him at least, indeed, at most.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

skooma512 posted:

Oooooh Trump is hosed now, oil interests are getting involved.

That's the military against him at least, indeed, at most.

Quick! Someone find out what Volkswagen has to say!

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


https://twitter.com/friendgolem/status/1346910767019266048

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Honestly "complaining about lovely products and then continuing to buy and consume them" is probably the most American thing I've ever seen Trump do

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010



:patriot:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I looked it up if anyone's wondering and it's even dumber than I was expecting

quote:

Pogchamp, one of gaming culture’s most prominent faces, has been removed from livestreaming service Twitch, the company announced. The decision was taken in light of its real-world face, fighting game personality Ryan “Gootecks” Gutierrez, who utilized social media to, in Twitch’s words, encourage “further violence after what took place in the Capitol today.”

Gamer Man Is Garbage Human Being With Bad Opinions, News at 11

e:

quote:

Twitch added that it would be working with the community to design something to replace the former PogChamp emote with something equally as “hype.”

Man I am so hype to dab on some new poggers, fellow teens

Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 02:17 on Jan 8, 2021

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
https://twitter.com/hollabekgrl/status/1346134332327526401

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
And then all of that is disregarded because a friend of the owner needs a job.

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

you just know they're not really looking at the answers either, they're also analyzing the timing of your keystrokes and feeding that into an ~algorithm~ that can reject you for typing like a communist

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


I remember one time I filled one of those out and it asked "Do people steal?" I of course said yes and during the follow up interview I was flat out asked what have I stolen before. Interviewer said that me answering the way I did, I must be a thief of some kind.

Needless to say I did not get the job.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Zil posted:

I remember one time I filled one of those out and it asked "Do people steal?" I of course said yes and during the follow up interview I was flat out asked what have I stolen before. Interviewer said that me answering the way I did, I must be a thief of some kind.

Needless to say I did not get the job.

I know a guy who went out to be a firefighter in LA and one of the questions is "what if you see a fellow firefighter steal something from the location of a fire?" you think the answer would be "I'd turn them in," but apparently, according to their HR psychologists, even acknowledging the idea that someone might steal makes a candidate much more likely to steal themselves. you're supposed to say "that would never happen"

necroid
May 14, 2009

what

Jabronie
Jun 4, 2011

In an investigation, details matter.

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

you just know they're not really looking at the answers either, they're also analyzing the timing of your keystrokes and feeding that into an ~algorithm~ that can reject you for typing like a communist

this is already extended to ai analyzed video interviews to screen out minorities

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

indigi posted:

I know a guy who went out to be a firefighter in LA and one of the questions is "what if you see a fellow firefighter steal something from the location of a fire?" you think the answer would be "I'd turn them in," but apparently, according to their HR psychologists, even acknowledging the idea that someone might steal makes a candidate much more likely to steal themselves. you're supposed to say "that would never happen"

Now in our next experiment, if you replace "fellow firefighter" with "fellow police officer" and "steal something from the location of a fire" with "shoot a Black kid in cold blood" an interesting thing happens

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
I hate this poo poo because it acts like a subtle form of propaganda. From an early age people are fed a message that the purpose of life is to work, that life has no meaning without work, that people who don't want to devote their lives to work are lazy and immoral, that people who don't like work are bad people or radicals, etc...

it's giving me flashbacks to my second "real" job where one of the guys on our team would dedicate 80+ hours per week to work and brag about how little time he spends with his wife and kids like it was some point of pride and our goddamn manager applauded him for it. I remember exactly how I felt and what I said. I said his life sounded sad, that people shouldn't "live to work" they should only work enough to spend their time doing more fulfilling things

to which I got scolded by our manager for having "a childish attitude" about work, notably that I wasn't "trying to lead a fulfilling career". I only stayed there for like 6 months and I was unironically suicidal when I left because of their dystopian "corporate culture"

the original point was that those questions are hosed up because everybody who takes the test is going to see those questions and unconsciously absorb the idea that they should want to become a slave to capital... but I think I'm preaching to the choir here

Homocow has issued a correction as of 09:31 on Jan 8, 2021

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



also that the only possible situation is hard work, and the only way to deal with it is to be more gungho about it

like, work not sucking isnt an option in any of those, thats just the way things are

How!
Oct 29, 2009

8 to work, 8 for self, 8 for sleep

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


So looking at that I'd just immediately lie and say whatever I figured they'd want to hear.

But would that be a red flag too I wonder?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


How! posted:

8 to work, 8 for self, 8 for sleep

8 for sleep, 8 for rest, 8 for lounging.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

I'm just gonna leave this here:

George Orwell, 1936 posted:

Wells, as the arch-priest of ‘progress’, cannot write with any conviction against ‘progress’. He draws a picture of a glittering, strangely sinister world in which the privileged classes live a life of shallow gutless hedonism, and the workers, reduced to a state of utter slavery and sub-human ignorance, toil like troglodytes in caverns underground. As soon as one examines this idea — it is further developed in a splendid short story in Stories of Space and Time — one sees its inconsistency. For in the immensely mechanized world that Wells is imagining, why should the workers have to work harder than at present? Obviously the tendency of the machine is to eliminate work, not to increase it. In the machine-world the workers might be enslaved, ill-treated, and even under-fed, but they certainly would not be condemned to ceaseless manual toil; because in that case what would be the function of the machine? You can have machines doing all the work or human beings doing all the work, but you can’t have both. Those armies of underground workers, with their blue uniforms and their debased, half-human language, are only put in ‘to make your flesh creep’. Wells wants to suggest that ‘progress’ might take a wrong turning; but the only evil he cares to imagine is inequality — one class grabbing all the wealth and power and oppressing the others, apparently out of pure spite.

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ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

How! posted:

8 to work, 8 for self, 8 for sleep

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