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Jan 8, 2021 03:17
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There is a version of that fight Big Dill wins, but they made a driving error or two
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Jan 8, 2021 03:37
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Was that poo poo fiberglass? What were they thinking?!? Someone said Kevlar and that poo poo's great for stopping bullets (Or hammers in Battlebots' case) but borderline useless against shredding and stabbing
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Jan 8, 2021 03:45
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omg who signed off on these enormous discovery+ chyrons that cover like 1/3rd of the screen. Witch doctor thrown off again. They seem to have a fatal flaw in that weapon this year
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Jan 8, 2021 03:58
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Close one. Witch Doctor tore a bunch of chunks out of them, but Kraken did gently caress up their weapon
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Jan 8, 2021 04:00
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Kraken worked for once Good for them 
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Jan 8, 2021 04:02
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Yeah, Kraken is uncharacteristically good this year, I hope they keep it up.
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Jan 8, 2021 04:05
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It's crazy they let Hydra win that one... At least Beta was actually able to fire it's main weapon...
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Jan 8, 2021 05:01
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Going off the Pinning rules, there is a case Hydra should have been DQ
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Jan 8, 2021 05:04
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Going off the Pinning rules, there is a case Hydra should have been DQ Can the refs dock points? He gave Hydra a warning but then never followed it up with anything. Is DQ the only next step?
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Jan 8, 2021 05:27
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PostNouveau posted:Can the refs dock points? He gave Hydra a warning but then never followed it up with anything. Is DQ the only next step? I dunno. Here are some of the relevant bits   Hydra's dohickey sure wasn't doing any damaging or disabling to me. Plus it took Hydra being told to back off several times before he actually did
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Jan 8, 2021 05:56
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Disappointing season so far. Two big fights that feature a winner who didn't engage their weapon a single time. I'm a huge Bronco fan and it sucks to see them fall from grace and Hydra take its place
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Jan 8, 2021 07:00
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Was that poo poo fiberglass? What were they thinking?!? It felt like that kind of bot you would have seen on the Comedy Central era battle bots. People learned long ago that Kevlar is useless in battlebots
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Jan 8, 2021 08:43
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MiddleOne posted:
At least Free Shipping’s stunt was spectacular and clever. The reason why other robots didn’t use the obvious cow catcher strategy years before was because they are trying to do robot combat, for an audience.
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Jan 8, 2021 09:36
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MiddleOne posted:
Still the OG 
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Jan 8, 2021 09:43
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Haha, I was a Razer fan as a kid and that was so upsetting. It’s funny in retrospect. Part of me wishes I didn’t have favorites because I get bummed when they don’t win (especially this episode). I miss last year when I knew no one and just enjoyed the destruction. Mumbling fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Jan 8, 2021 09:46
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Mumbling posted:Haha, I was a Razer fan as a kid and that was so upsetting. It’s funny in retrospect. Yeah I've been bummed to see Witch Doctor struggling with their spinners breaking. BUT for every old favorite struggling, you get a Jackbox or a Rusty to cheer for.
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Jan 8, 2021 16:01
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Jan 8, 2021 16:44
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah I've been bummed to see Witch Doctor struggling with their spinners breaking. Witch Doctor is really just returning to form. Last season was the exception, this is what they've been like every other season. Very fast, very powerful and very inconsistent. Hypershock and Endgame have similar problems. They either sweep the competition or bomb completely. halokiller posted:Still the OG Haha what is on going here
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Jan 8, 2021 17:13
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MiddleOne posted:Witch Doctor is really just returning to form. Last season was the exception, this is what they've been like every other season. Very fast, very powerful and very inconsistent. Hypershock and Endgame have similar problems. They either sweep the competition or bomb completely. Makes Bite Force all the more impressive. All these similar bots can't get it together, and nothing but the god roll critical 20 from Chomp can stop Bite Force.
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Jan 8, 2021 17:17
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new roided up chomp vs bite force is the grudge match of my dreams they'll need to change up their hammer though, og chomp's Actual Knife of a hammer was the only thing long and slim enough to avoid the guards and hit the belt
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Jan 8, 2021 17:32
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logikv9 posted:new roided up chomp vs bite force is the grudge match of my dreams I think it would be cool if the turret contained a spear instead of an actual hammer. At least with a spear you can hit from an angle where you have floor traction instead of constantly lifting yourself up when you hit. Like, my dream bot is a turreted spear bot and the gunner has fpv goggles to precisely punch out the exposed chains and belts you see so often in BB.
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BurntCornMuffin posted:I think it would be cool if the turret contained a spear instead of an actual hammer. At least with a spear you can hit from an angle where you have floor traction instead of constantly lifting yourself up when you hit. the spear is 100% going to be shattered into pieces by a spinner though
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Jan 8, 2021 18:16
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MiddleOne posted:Haha what is on going here How do you stop the only bot that keeps beating you every time?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXrXLwp6tW0 Still the second most controversial/debated match in all of Robot Wars (first being Storm 2 vs Typhoon 2/RW Producers)
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Jan 8, 2021 18:41
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Witch Doctor used to break down all the time; despite their weapon troubles, I'm impressed by their ability to keep operating in the fight against Hydra. Old school WD would have been KOed. I'm of two minds about the Hydra/Huge situation. Huge works because the bots it fights can't necessarily be reconfigured to make their weapons effective against it, and if somebody designed a bot just to beat Huge it would get rolled by the rest of the field. And at least in their initial appearance on the show, they really didn't have an effective weapon, they were a rope-a-dope bot. Hydra had a cheap solution to the fight; if the alternative is to force ingenuity, that's one thing, but if it's to give a big advantage to the teams with enough cash to completely reweapon their bots for a single fight, that's another. And how much weapon activity is "enough?" Would Hydra have been OK if they'd put a spike on the end of the arm? What if they put an extender on their flipper and only used it once? Would putting a wedge on a bot and slamming into Huge be acceptable, but what Hydra did is not, and if so, what's the difference? Hydra clearly had all the control in that fight, and almost kept Huge from using its weapon at all: you can't penalize that as a general principle without essentially writing off bots which use more defensive options, or grab-bots. In the end, I think Huge has a huge weakness, in that it's helpless in any situation that requires pushing or traction, and that's where it found itself. At the same time, Hydra's solution to their weapon essentially being neutralized by Huge's design doesn't seem especially satisfying as a viewer. Changing the rules in a way that benefits a particular build or design does seem like something that shouldn't be done lightly, though. My impression of the current Chomp is that it's a nasty weapon delivery system, but so slow that it simply can't be expected to fight other robots except that the rules of the game require the other robots to keep closing and attacking. Is that good design? Or at least, an experiment that's good for the game? Or is it exploiting the rules in the same way Hydra did, but with more entertaining results?
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halokiller posted:How do you stop the only bot that keeps beating you every time? Lmao that's actually really clever, especially how they designed it to be just larger than the pit
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Jan 8, 2021 18:58
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Narsham posted:Witch Doctor used to break down all the time; despite their weapon troubles, I'm impressed by their ability to keep operating in the fight against Hydra. Old school WD would have been KOed. I don't exactly like Hydra winning that fight. I think maybe they should have gotten DQ'd. BUT Huge is absolutely living in the same land of bullshit that Hydra entered. I've never really liked Huge because the fundamental concept of the bot is "The rules don't say anything about me just making it impossible to hit my robot".
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Jan 8, 2021 19:08
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Having just watched it Hydra should have been DQ'd not just for not actively fighting but for trying that "I'm not touching you" poo poo with the ref. If Hydra had even just repositioned the cowcatcher so it could still attempt to fire I think it would have been fine, they designed a hard counter to a robot that itself counters that kind of weapon and that's fine, but Hydra also very obviously skirted the rules at best and ignored them at worst, and from how the driver was acting it's obvious that the plan was entirely that.
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Jan 8, 2021 19:11
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PostNouveau posted:I've never really liked Huge because the fundamental concept of the bot is "The rules don't say anything about me just making it impossible to hit my robot".
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PostNouveau posted:I don't exactly like Hydra winning that fight. I think maybe they should have gotten DQ'd. BUT Huge is absolutely living in the same land of bullshit that Hydra entered. I've never really liked Huge because the fundamental concept of the bot is "The rules don't say anything about me just making it impossible to hit my robot". What, no? Huge is a legit design and it's still possible to hit then. Just not by flippers Huge gets wrecked by big horizontal spinners, see Icewave and SOW
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Halloween Jack posted:Is there any rule that says a dog can't be a Battlebot? Hi, I have the SPCA on the phone, they would like to talk to you
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What, no? Huge is a legit design and it's still possible to hit then. Just not by flippers Sure they get wrecked by that one type of robot, but vertical spinners, beaters, drums, flippers, it's functionally impossible for those bots to beat it because they can't reach it. They're aiming to win like 70% of their fights by default and then maybe hoping to get lucky in the tournament draw. It is better now that it's got a real weapon and you can go weapon-on-weapon against it.
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Battlebots is a TV show about robots smashing each other to bits in spectacular fashion in a death arena. The best pilots in interviews always talk about putting on a great show and being entertaining as their first priority. This makes sense because a) it’s a very silly sport that is highly arbitrary, b) having fans is worth more in the long run then Ws, and, c) the championship entrants are decided by the producers as to what would be the best show to watch. Hydra was completely against the spirit of the sport, the spirit of the game, and the spirit of the show. Huge has always had an effective weapon and resulted in a true meta shift - it’s not a gimmick, it’s a strategy that was exciting every time they went into the box. What they did is not a meta shift, not a modification to make the robots weapon more effective against Huge. This was a physicalisation of an unwillingness to fight: a physical tap out or concession, the verbal equivalents of which have no effect in Battlebots. The fact that the judges awarded victory to a team that conceded the fight, who circumvented that rule by saying it with metal instead of words, is mind blowing. It is an endorsement of stupid cowardice over clever showmanship.
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Narsham posted:Changing the rules in a way that benefits a particular build or design does seem like something that shouldn't be done lightly, though. My impression of the current Chomp is that it's a nasty weapon delivery system, but so slow that it simply can't be expected to fight other robots except that the rules of the game require the other robots to keep closing and attacking. Is that good design? Or at least, an experiment that's good for the game? Or is it exploiting the rules in the same way Hydra did, but with more entertaining results? The central conceit of Battlebots is to make botbattles more entertaining by greatly favoring aggression and big transfers of kinetic energy. Whether that be by hitting, ramming, puncturing or tossing, the rules greatly favors it. The entire walker ruleset is an experiment is to see if a slower but heavier bot would add to the variety of matches and so far it has. Hydra's strut-addon does the opposite, it narrows what designs are possible and it does so in a very passive and ultimately boring way.
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And the pilot’s pathetic mewing of “the other teams a should praise me because I kept my bot pointed at them the entire time, it was so difficult” And then claiming with quiet embarrassment to be the “villain of battlebots” instead of the wettest squib, shameful, who could back this dickhead
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Jan 8, 2021 21:11
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I can't believe how infuriated I am by that Hydra fight, I was so stoked to see that matchup and we got THAT garbage. What the gently caress
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Jan 8, 2021 21:22
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chaosbreather posted:And the pilot’s pathetic mewing of “the other teams a should praise me because I kept my bot pointed at them the entire time, it was so difficult” That was pretty funny to hear after he announced that he wasn't actually moving at one point
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chaosbreather posted:Battlebots is a TV show about robots smashing each other to bits in spectacular fashion in a death arena. The best pilots in interviews always talk about putting on a great show and being entertaining as their first priority. This makes sense because a) it’s a very silly sport that is highly arbitrary, b) having fans is worth more in the long run then Ws, and, c) the championship entrants are decided by the producers as to what would be the best show to watch.
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