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Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Lol, you don't know the joys of corporate web dev and needing to make sure everything runs on ie8. Hell, back when I worked for a fortune 50 a while ago, we had to make sure ie6 rendered the same as chrome, opera (before it went chromium), and firefox

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

The worst decision ever made was pandering to idiot graphic designers who treat HTML like it's supposed to be a pixel perfect image format, who then poo poo their pants and write five pages of broken css and javascript hacks because the drop shadow on their bevel was anti-aliased slightly differently between browsers.

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Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

RC and Moon Pie posted:

In high school, my technology teacher heard about this statewide contest for students to build a website about their high school.

I knew very basic HTML, which impressed the teacher, so I was in the contest. We attended the little celebration thing for it when they announced the winners.
a) There were only about 10 high schools in the state participating.
b) Somebody knew Shockwave, which blew everything else away.

This was long enough ago that I got to use my first digital camera, which used a 3.5 floppy for its storage.

3.5 floppy digital cameras were the tits. I miss them dearly.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Sweevo posted:

The worst decision ever made was letting graphic designers treat HTML like it was a pixel perfect image format and then making GBS threads their pants because the drop shadow on their bevel was anti-aliased slightly differently between browsers.
Creating image slices in Macromedia Fireworks.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Sentient Data posted:

Lol, you don't know the joys of corporate web dev and needing to make sure everything runs on ie8. Hell, back when I worked for a fortune 50 a while ago, we had to make sure ie6 rendered the same as chrome, opera (before it went chromium), and firefox

A certain hotel chain I used to work for required IE6 until 2013, when they finally switched to IE9. No newer version would work.

When we had a Windows 10 machine their support line told me up and down that it would not work, you absolutely could not make their system work on any IE version above 9 or any OS above Windows 7 and we needed to buy a downgrade license. I just changed the user agent in the browser and it worked flawlessly.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

BogDew posted:

Creating image slices in Macromedia Fireworks.

Is that what sites did when they wanted an imagemap - because they wanted all their navigation links to be different locations in one big image - but they were concerned about client-side image map support in ancient browsers, so instead their page consisted of a whole bunch of small images that tiled together to make one big one? At least I seem to remember that being a thing.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Ugh, I remember that. That's as cool picture on that website and its 20 small images laid out next to each other.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Buttcoin purse posted:

Is that what sites did when they wanted an imagemap - because they wanted all their navigation links to be different locations in one big image - but they were concerned about client-side image map support in ancient browsers, so instead their page consisted of a whole bunch of small images that tiled together to make one big one? At least I seem to remember that being a thing.

yep, I remember learning that in high school in like 2003, gently caress

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

i like the old cdroms where the top directory had a fancy background image built from hundreds of carefully placed folders with custom icons

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


r u ready to WALK posted:

i like the old cdroms where the top directory had a fancy background image built from hundreds of carefully placed folders with custom icons



Mac's Action Sack!

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Buttcoin purse posted:

Is that what sites did when they wanted an imagemap - because they wanted all their navigation links to be different locations in one big image - but they were concerned about client-side image map support in ancient browsers, so instead their page consisted of a whole bunch of small images that tiled together to make one big one? At least I seem to remember that being a thing.

It wasn’t just for image maps. It was so you could go from mock-up to html very quickly. Not all areas of the image had to be actual image. It was using tables to maintain the layout. It wasn’t a bad solution at the time since things like display:flex didn’t exist yet. ImageReady did the same thing and was much more widely used in professional settings due to it being partnered with photoshop so designers could make their mock-ups in photoshop and turn the exported slices over to the developers for quick turnaround.

Of course with things like Zeplin available now (a tool used to take photoshop mock-ups and and deliver them to web developers) paired with css3/html5/js things are much better but much more complex.

I’ve been a professional full stack (different stacks over the years) web developer for 22 years.

Everything changes so quickly nowadays in web development that I’m still a bit behind. My preferred stack is still MySQL/Node on the back end and AngularJS (not angular2+) on the front end simply because my brain slowed down when this was the new hotness and I don’t really see a reason to learn something newer since everything you could want to do with a web application in 2021 can be done with it.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3db-QgHYE

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

r u ready to WALK posted:

i like the old cdroms where the top directory had a fancy background image built from hundreds of carefully placed folders with custom icons



always loved the look of early apple OS desktops. windows really lacks any aesthetic beyond: cubicle drone doesn't deserve nice things.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

LifeSunDeath posted:

always loved the look of early apple OS desktops. windows really lacks any aesthetic beyond: cubicle drone doesn't deserve nice things.

I, too, love all my desktop icon text to be in the shittiest italics ever.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

EVIL Gibson posted:

I, too, love all my desktop icon text to be in the shittiest italics ever.

Ikr! This was apple's highpoint imo.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I have fond memories of working as a UX designer on a mission critical internal web app and one Dev was a contractor who didn’t know HTML or CSS and the other was this poor kid who bailed from the company after it predictably turned into a fiasco

Hooked up my old Sony VHS player and it promptly munched my Fast Times at Ridgemont High tape

Come to find out VCRs are now an expensive tech relic (so is VCR repair)

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blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

EVIL Gibson posted:

I, too, love all my desktop icon text to be in the shittiest italics ever.

Only aliases were in italics you cretin

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

this image gave me a random flashback of my first computer use as a kid at like age 5

I associated the "read me" icon as hieroglyphics instead of a newspaper

because I mainly used it to play Glypha (Joust, but Egyptian themed)

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Keith Atherton posted:

I have fond memories of working as a UX designer on a mission critical internal web app and one Dev was a contractor who didn’t know HTML or CSS and the other was this poor kid who bailed from the company after it predictably turned into a fiasco

Hooked up my old Sony VHS player and it promptly munched my Fast Times at Ridgemont High tape

Come to find out VCRs are now an expensive tech relic (so is VCR repair)

I flip old electronics for profit, and good multi-head hifi VCRs can bring some surprisingly good cash!

I've also tried repairing some of them that didn't work, and the mechanical and electrical complexity that's going on inside a VCR is way beyond me.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



evobatman posted:

I flip old electronics for profit, and good multi-head hifi VCRs can bring some surprisingly good cash!

I've also tried repairing some of them that didn't work, and the mechanical and electrical complexity that's going on inside a VCR is way beyond me.

There was a British show called "The Secret Life of Machines" that did a really good job explaining how common devices actually work, like photocopiers and such. They did an episode on VCRs and it really is a kind of freaky set up. They don't read the tape in a linear fashion like cassette tapes - they have a a drum that tilts the tape so it is read diagonally to increase the area of the tape being accessed. The tape is spooled off and around a drum that sits at an angle like 45 degrees or something, so instead of accessing a centimeter of the tape at a time it's more like 1.5 or 2cm of tape, like ///////// instead of ||||||||||, if the ////////// were longer.

At least that's how my memory of it is - it's been decades since I saw it and I could be mistaken.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


That's exactly right. The read head (or several) is mounted to a spinning drum, which is set at an angle. The combined movement of the drum plus the tape being advanced results in the diagonal pattern on the tape.

The benefit is that you can have the tape be wider and move slower than a simple linear setup as used in audio tapes, while having a significantly larger storage capacity, because part of the movement is handled by the head, rather than the tape.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


CaptainSarcastic posted:

There was a British show called "The Secret Life of Machines" that did a really good job explaining how common devices actually work, like photocopiers and such. They did an episode on VCRs and it really is a kind of freaky set up. They don't read the tape in a linear fashion like cassette tapes - they have a a drum that tilts the tape so it is read diagonally to increase the area of the tape being accessed. The tape is spooled off and around a drum that sits at an angle like 45 degrees or something, so instead of accessing a centimeter of the tape at a time it's more like 1.5 or 2cm of tape, like ///////// instead of ||||||||||, if the ////////// were longer.

At least that's how my memory of it is - it's been decades since I saw it and I could be mistaken.

That show is mana from heaven. The helper dude was a stuntman and built Brum (a kids show about a car)

The VCR episode:

The intro has a LOT of forum avatar material
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOULWR4h4Io

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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


VCR tech is basically just real-life magic. It's such an interesting period of tech: the inevitable transition to ones and zeroes is already happening but there was still the need to devise one last ridiculously complex analog technology because digital home video is still out of reach. The cumulated engineering wizardry of decades of fiddling with magnetic tape is then poured into this stupidly complicated and and cumbersome format which still manages to remain usable and relevant for two decades. I love old VCRs, the complex mechanism, the clicks and whirrs, the slow corruption of the tape with each pass, it's just so exciting to observe how it all manages to just work.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



WITCHCRAFT posted:

this image gave me a random flashback of my first computer use as a kid at like age 5

I associated the "read me" icon as hieroglyphics instead of a newspaper

because I mainly used it to play Glypha (Joust, but Egyptian themed)

I'll always love how basically everything you would see on a Mac for like 15 years was the work of Susan Kare.

She's still rockin https://twitter.com/SusanKare

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

barbecue at the folks posted:

VCR tech is basically just real-life magic. It's such an interesting period of tech: the inevitable transition to ones and zeroes is already happening but there was still the need to devise one last ridiculously complex analog technology because digital home video is still out of reach. The cumulated engineering wizardry of decades of fiddling with magnetic tape is then poured into this stupidly complicated and and cumbersome format which still manages to remain usable and relevant for two decades. I love old VCRs, the complex mechanism, the clicks and whirrs, the slow corruption of the tape with each pass, it's just so exciting to observe how it all manages to just work.

The tape deck that switched sides by mechanically flipping the cassette comes to mind :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf4eR3ZkvoY

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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Data Graham posted:

I'll always love how basically everything you would see on a Mac for like 15 years was the work of Susan Kare.

She's still rockin https://twitter.com/SusanKare

Oh my god, I had no idea it was almost completely the work of a single person. This is lovely!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




evobatman posted:

I flip old electronics for profit, and good multi-head hifi VCRs can bring some surprisingly good cash!

I've also tried repairing some of them that didn't work, and the mechanical and electrical complexity that's going on inside a VCR is way beyond me.

Are you doing ITAD or are you flipping old hifi stuff and the like?

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Are you doing ITAD or are you flipping old hifi stuff and the like?

Flipping old hifi stuff, but have also done toys, watches, and other stuff I can pick up cheap from the classifieds and flea markets. We did have an electronics dumpster at a place I used to work, and that was a gold mine for a couple of years. Pulled out hundreds of sticks of RAM that I sold in lots, and some nice laptops and workstations that I used for years. I've posted a lot of this stuff in the PYF Recent Purchases and 2-channel audio thread.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


evobatman posted:

Flipping old hifi stuff, but have also done toys, watches, and other stuff I can pick up cheap from the classifieds and flea markets. We did have an electronics dumpster at a place I used to work, and that was a gold mine for a couple of years. Pulled out hundreds of sticks of RAM that I sold in lots, and some nice laptops and workstations that I used for years. I've posted a lot of this stuff in the PYF Recent Purchases and 2-channel audio thread.

I keep intending to flip old stuff I fix, but nope I keep them and then go down rabbitholes of then getting media to play on them etc.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Data Graham posted:

Every new day brought a new feature that browsers supported.

Background colors. Background images. Tables. Frames. Javascript. CSS.

One day when Java Applets became supported I put one at the top of my site to display crossfading text: WELCOME TO / MYSITE.COM

It was important to use every feature

You gave me a flashback to making websites in high school by going to javascript.internet.com (which sounds like a made up URL from an episode of Law & Order about hacking) and copy pasting as many scripts into my Geocities pages as possible.

edit: adorable

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Horace posted:

You gave me a flashback to making websites in high school by going to javascript.internet.com (which sounds like a made up URL from an episode of Law & Order about hacking) and copy pasting as many scripts into my Geocities pages as possible.

edit: adorable



LOL you bonzi buddied geocities.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Bro. You can’t just load 750kb of data are you insane?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Well, I'm back again for ANOTHER Laserdisc find:

Hackers, a guilty pleasure of mine. Tonight will be a Double Feature of Sneakers and Hackers


An amazing Spawn Collectors Edition, when Collectors Editions felt special:




Hmm a little preloaded phonecard with 500Yen included in the box:



For a chance to win a special Spawn themed mobile phone (Japan Only), look at it - peak 90s:


Goes for quite the penny unfortunately:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spawn-mobile-phone-from-Japan-/293932984266

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
This thing is cool as hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-v6kyEDCNo

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I can easily imagine a timeline where IBM went all in on consumer goods, and that (and its chunky, applet-style custom UI) developed into something like the Windows CE phone/communicators.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Yeah I got a little upset that I never heard about that thing (or the Toshiba Libretto he mentions at the end) back when my MS-DOS machine was dying and I probably would have been in the market to pay $500+ for an adorable era-appropriate laptop to replace it.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I was sad when he said that prices for those things were climbing and that the screens were dying. I would love to have a little machine like that to show someone. "Yeah, It's a raspberry pi that you put into a custom IBM case with an LCD screen" they say. How wrong they would be.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




"Yeah! This does significantly less and cost several times more!"

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
The Tech Relics mantra

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


There's a top bloke in the Aussie VHS collecting scene that does some really really awesome repros/reimagining of clamshell artwork. Will do international too. I'm blatantly shilling for him as he might be out of work soon due to some Government bullshit.



Very much biased as I am a customer of this blokes services in Australia. I got an uncut Cannibal Holocaust including a bunch of new old stock video store stickers and 'banned in QLD' ones as the movie was banned here.

Also look at this lovely thing!









He is also working with an ever growing number of up and coming metal bands to create a 'Rage on VHS' type thing full of metal goodness with a retro flair, a callback to our childhoods growing up recording the ABC music show at midnight to find what wicked music could be found that wasn't in the top 40.

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