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With spin bikes a lot of the premium is because people want "what I use at the gym" and that means you're paying for a device built for near permanent ~16hrs/day use, which things like the Kickr Bike wouldn't be able to achieve.
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Yeah, it's a piece of kit built to last.
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Vando posted:With spin bikes a lot of the premium is because people want "what I use at the gym" and that means you're paying for a device built for near permanent ~16hrs/day use, which things like the Kickr Bike wouldn't be able to achieve. Yeah. Build quality and low maintenance was really important to me. I snapped a lovely cheap spin bike a few weeks ago and just wanted something quiet (apartment living), durable, and will last me 10 years as my default cardio. I don't mind a cost premium if it means I don't have to replace it or deal with much maintenance. Going to see if I can connect it to zwift over the weekend for some fun.
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The StagesBike SB20 uses the same frame as their spin bike and is also significantly less expensive than a KICKR Bike. The flywheel alone is 50lbs.
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Just to be clear: there is nothing wrong with the build quality of most trainer bikes for home use, the durability of the gym-focused products is because people will be absolutely beating those things to poo poo on a daily basis and not giving a gently caress because it's not theirs.
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The Keiser M3i (92lbs) looks like a toy next to the StagesBike SB20 (138lbs.) It has an actual strain gauge power meter as well as a secondary OTS in the flywheel. It has a stainless steel frame (vs aluminum,) smart resistance controller, USB charge ports, bottle cages, customizable drivetrain up to 50 gears, customizable shift logic, adjustable crank length, built in phone and tablet holders, etc. It does cost more than the M3i. Apparently the M3i also requires a $100 signal converter to work with Zwift over BT, and won’t work over ANT+ for unknown reasons? TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Anyone using Peloton? or is this is just for bikes on fixed platform? 
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TobinHatesYou posted:Apparently the M3i also requires a $100 signal converter to work with Zwift over BT, and won’t work over ANT+ for unknown reasons? 
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fubolicious posted:Anyone using Peloton? or is this is just for bikes on fixed platform? Peloton counts, and ironically in the context of the current sub-thread, they've nailed power accuracy with their "Plus" version indoor bike. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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I absolutely would not spend $2k on a spin bike that needs a bodge to work as a smart bike when a Stages SB20 is only $800 more and would be objectively better in every way.
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The Stages is def better value but if you just want something solid as an indoor trainer there's nothing wrong with saving the money, it's not like it's going to be unworkable.
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Vando posted:The Stages is def better value but if you just want something solid as an indoor trainer there's nothing wrong with saving the money, it's not like it's going to be unworkable. I’d also rather spend half that price and get a nice direct drive smart trainer if given the choice. $2k is just too much for what (relatively little) that spin bike offers. e: never mind scrolled back through the thread for context, duder already has the bike and isn’t shopping for one e.pilot fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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lol I actually asked earlier in this thread and was told it's a good choice I'm happy with it so far but I can see there may have been a better option. It is 1000eu more though in europe which is a lot.
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Yeah, I'm the one who got the m3i last month and I didn't know about the Stages until it came up in this thread just now. Not gonna lie, I may have spent the extra on the Stages if I'd have known about it earlier! The m3i's not bad so I'm not too down on myself, but that will affect my recommendation going forward.
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Strumpy posted:lol I actually asked earlier in this thread and was told it's a good choice And like any piece of home gym equipment, the biggest ‘is it worth it’ comes down to whether you use it consistently and if you are happy with it. If the bike and app environment does it for you and keeps you interested/motivated and isn’t causing you to have to skip rent, then it was a good purchase imo.
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BadSamaritan posted:And like any piece of home gym equipment, the biggest ‘is it worth it’ comes down to whether you use it consistently and if you are happy with it. If the bike and app environment does it for you and keeps you interested/motivated and isn’t causing you to have to skip rent, then it was a good purchase imo. Yep. Obsessing over the best purchase isn't going to do anything other than stress you out. Good enough is good enough
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Oh yeah 100% TBH I just want something i can do from home for an hour a day before work - And I for sure can with this
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fubolicious posted:Anyone using Peloton? or is this is just for bikes on fixed platform? We use the peloton app with a Schwinn IC4 and it’s been great to just have something my wife and I can share and hop on when we have a few minutes. When we did the math getting the bike for $750 delivered plus $14/month for the app it made sense for us given Covid. Plus all the other exercises you can get on demand beyond cycling. I have not tried it with Zwift yet but I’m sure I’ll have to inflate my weight by a percentage to account for the bike allegedly not reporting power fairly.
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Wahoo kickr core, 11 speed cassette, and floor mat on the way  Do I need anything else aside from an Apple TV hooked up to a spare monitor? Already have three decent fans at my disposal.
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spf3million posted:Wahoo kickr core, 11 speed cassette, and floor mat on the way do you have the tools to put the cassette on?
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It's preferable to be able to reach the interface, I use a kindle fire for the companion app attached to my handlebars.
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spf3million posted:Wahoo kickr core, 11 speed cassette, and floor mat on the way Put a towel over the top tube or get one of the sweat protectors
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spf3million posted:Wahoo kickr core, 11 speed cassette, and floor mat on the way Use a waxy surface protectant like Pedro's Bike Lust on your frame. Use Boeshield T-9 on every fastener between your stem and saddle. Use it on your derailleur cage, use it on ferrules and braze-ons. Get a Halo headband or similar, especially if you have very short hair.
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 Saved 13 inches of space. If I hop up and do wheelies and twist the wheel around, it will start to work it's way out from under the forks, but it seems to be stable enough for my purposes.
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I 100% applaud ingenuity and going outside the box on trainer bikes, but yo, you're going to lose all your teeth. Please at least stabilize that by putting a base like an upside down T braced on that wonderwood. Please. I am concerned.
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Dude. Dude. Spend $10 and get some wood to act as a base at the very least before you get wrecked. BeastPussy fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jan 10, 2021 |
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LRADIKAL posted:
Jesus.
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Yeah, I might add a little more support, but you guys, it's safer than actually riding a bike, hope that helps with perspective. To be a little less flip, the bike is attached to a fixed base on the back, so it can't go forwards or backwards, also, the skewer isn't designed to let the bike rotate on the mount, which adds a nice bit of friction.
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I think everyone realizes that, the problem is when that piece of wood tips over and wrecks you and the bike.
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Right, and I'm saying that I already climbed onto it, and bounced wheelies on it, which, if I keep doing, eventually gets the strut to move. The bike is constrained in it's back and forth motion. Besides which, if it does go out from under the bike, I'm only dropping 13 inches, again, on a bike that is locked stationary. It's pretty janky looking, but it's more stable than you think.
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Well, at least you have that suspension fork to soften the hit.
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LRADIKAL posted:Yeah, I might add a little more support, but you guys, it's safer than actually riding a bike, hope that helps with perspective. You know what's safer? A tire mounted to a wheel, mounted to the fork.
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I imagine once you actually start doing hard efforts that whatever stability you're getting right now will be gone. I'm using a direct drive trainer and when I'm sprinting hard, the trainer will actually slip forwards a bit and I have to be mindful that I'm not torquing the bars like I would be outside. What's wrong with using the wheel on?
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I hope you livestream your zwifting so we can watch you the first time you sprint on that thing.
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Please don't let yourself die on this particular hill. Seriously. This is an unnecessarily overcomplicated solution.
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Development posted:What's wrong with using the wheel on? Space constraints.
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Rocker plates are a thing. They wouldn't be a thing if people on trainers weren't exerting those kinds of stresses on the system as a whole. Doing wheelies or whatever right now immediately after clamping the fork is no where near equivalent to what happens when putting in a hard sprint. That qr is going to loosen up just slightly over time and you're going to fall. It's not going to be just 13" freefall because when it goes you'll be pushing forward on the bike. I'm all for the fork stand diy, but you gotta fix that thing. Just slap on a base and some angle bracers.
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