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I was watching some streamer who had a C6 Keqing, an R5 Aquila and all his artifacts were perfectly rolled with crit dmg and crit rate with an on set cup with just pages and pages of +20 5* artifacts on an endless scrollbar. Then I started my own artifact grind and quickly realized that dude must have dropped tens of thousands on this game.
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Wow that new co-op event is annoying. Missed it by literally 1 hit on the first try, then proceeded to get more annoyed and fail harder. What are the rewards for clearing it?
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Jan 11, 2021 18:42
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No Wave posted:I don't understand why substat rerolling is such a popular suggestion... It's the last thing they'd want to do, it's not hugely impactful for f2p but it makes whales' life 10x easier. the system for rerolling substats in honkai was primarily for whales. no matter what, something that you may *never* be able to upgrade is pretty frustrating for the whales too. at some point they'll lose motivation on rolling for new characters if they know they're going to just have to farm a new artifact set for them and continue to get hosed over by RNG. when they roll things like this out, it means they have enough other content that something you might never be able to perfect is no longer a necessary carrot to keep people farming. the weekly boss drops are almost certainly going to change before the artifacts. valuum posted:Wow that new co-op event is annoying. Missed it by literally 1 hit on the first try, then proceeded to get more annoyed and fail harder. What are the rewards for clearing it? ive got either 5 purple exp mats, or 50,000 mora from them.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:48
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Whining helped, got it on the next try as they bundled up more. Forgot to pay attention to the reward though.
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Jan 11, 2021 18:59
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If you didn't see anything it was probably the 50k mora reward. I somehow was unable to see it every time I got it but my mora was incremented in my inventory.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:01
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Hexel posted:I was watching some streamer who had a C6 Keqing, an R5 Aquila and all his artifacts were perfectly rolled with crit dmg and crit rate with an on set cup with just pages and pages of +20 5* artifacts on an endless scrollbar. C6 Keqing alone is easily 5-10K, R5 Aquila is probably another 4 or 5K, unless it's been rate up. That account probably cost 20K or more.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:09
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They have substat rerolling in other gacha and mmos. It usually uses premium currency or limited availability items to pull out. Imagine gambling to try and get that def into crit or whatever but weighted stats always have it switch between hp, def and elemental mastery. Each time you pull at the lever it becomes more expensive to keep pulling. Its quickly becomes the realm of turbowhales because at least when you re-do domains you get fodder to level up your artificats, in this case you get jack poo poo.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:15
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I don't think sub stats rerolling is necessary but they need to unfuck the primary stat drop rates. I'm ar53 with with 10 chars at ascension 5 and 3 at a4 yet still I haven't found a single gladiator crit/crDamage 5* circlet. 5 of my best equiped chars use a 4* ele damage goblet and I have exactly one 5* ele goblet with an element that matches the set it's part of. As far as I know EM circlets do not exist.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:19
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The weighted stats is the main reason I'm never going to go hard in domains beyond anything but good primary stats and set bonuses. If all the stats were equal it would be one thing but weighting against the ones you know players want reminds me of the worst kind of Destiny 2-style engagement-metric bullshit.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:19
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Some Numbers posted:C6 Keqing alone is easily 5-10K, R5 Aquila is probably another 4 or 5K, unless it's been rate up. Napkin math says that on average a C6 non-rate up 5-star is something like 21-25k usd.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:42
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Relevant to artifact stat chat: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/kn0r0s/analysing_2650_artifacts_and_their_mainsub_stat/ Looking at this table made me not care about getting the perfect artifact.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:51
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Whaling on standard banner is so crazy. If you whaled on Venti, Klee, Childe, Zhong, Albedo, and Ganyu you'd be close to halfway done with standard banner already. Watching Tenha (a streamer with every 5* at C6) pull each release is insane, he's trying to get C6 albedo and literally every pull besides Albedo was a brick.
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Jan 11, 2021 19:53
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Napkin math says that on average a C6 non-rate up 5-star is something like 21-25k usd. That's only if you're pulling for one specific c6 and the bricks include the other 5s. So getting all the 5s at c6 would be less than 25k × number of 5s. NOT THAT THAT MAKES IT AFFORDABLE
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Jan 11, 2021 19:59
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Pope Urbane II posted:That's only if you're pulling for one specific c6 and the bricks include the other 5s. So getting all the 5s at c6 would be less than 25k × number of 5s. Well yes but that's the average for pulling any given one to C6 and then stopping. Of course you're going to have a pile of other 5 stars and constellations but anyone with a C6 blue banner 5 star has spent five digits.
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Jan 11, 2021 20:06
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I think Lacari has a C6 Keqing and he's "only" spent 9k or so. It's quite likely to "highroll" one of the five standard 5*s, it's just unlikely to highroll the one you want.
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Jan 11, 2021 20:11
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gently caress this co-op thing in the latest treasure hunt, it is literally* impossible solo and there's no automatic teaming or anything. Absurdly short timers on something to fake difficulty is not good game design.  *I don't want to loving hear that you did it, no team comp or setup or anything I have can actually break the shields reliably/quickly enough to actually kill them, even fooded up.
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Jan 11, 2021 20:35
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Asimo posted:Absurdly short timers on something to fake difficulty is not good game design. should be the thread title, tbqh
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Jan 11, 2021 20:38
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Is the event based on world level?
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Jan 11, 2021 20:40
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Yep.
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Jan 11, 2021 20:44
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Asimo posted:gently caress this co-op thing in the latest treasure hunt, it is literally* impossible solo and there's no automatic teaming or anything. Absurdly short timers on something to fake difficulty is not good game design.
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Jan 11, 2021 20:53
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which of the craftable bows is better for childe? prototype crescent?
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Jan 11, 2021 20:53
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No Wave posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/kuz634/day_4_lost_riches_2_easiest_ways_to_solo_clear/  But caught a post last page about abusing the teleport nearby to group them up and on attempt 20 or whatever that seemed to do the trick with an underleveled sucrose swirl and a billion klee bombs onto the stacked trio of mages. Still neither remotely fun or worth the 50k mora reward for it though.
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Jan 11, 2021 21:00
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Manatee Cannon posted:which of the craftable bows is better for childe? prototype crescent? crescent wins by default, yeah. the phys dmg substat on compound is virtually worthless to childe
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Jan 11, 2021 21:20
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No Wave posted:I think Lacari has a C6 Keqing and he's "only" spent 9k or so. It's quite likely to "highroll" one of the five standard 5*s, it's just unlikely to highroll the one you want. That would basically be a reasonable minimum of $1100 USD. That's the floor. It sounds unlikely, but I had a C5 Xiangling in my first 4 pulls so who the hell knows sometimes.
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Jan 11, 2021 21:31
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Nakar posted:In theory, if you beat pity every time for an average of like 50 rolls per 5* and every single off-banner roll was Keqing, you would need 11 5* pulls for 6 Keqing constellations (assuming you rerolled for the first copy of her). Okay but theoretically the odds of that happening is 1 in 13.88 million so we're gonna go with 20 grand for a C6 Keqing.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:03
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so, what exactly influences the height of the updraft at stone gate? i must've stepped on it like 100 times and i only saw it get the high form once, when my friend stepped on it in multiplayer
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Jan 11, 2021 22:10
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Cao Ni Ma posted:What are you guys thinking the best way to play Ganyu is going to be? 4 piece ice set and keep the enemy frozen by using XQ or try to score melts using Xiangling gouba or klee mines? Im thinking going for melts means the 4 piece might not be that good and you might be better off using 2 piece cryo 2 piece something else. With the way Xingqiu works I question how viable it will be to apply freeze reliably with Ganyu. His kit doesn't really synergize with a long-range character that uses charged bow shots. Without having Mona I'm starting to lean towards a melt comp with her, possibly using Wanderer's Troupe and investing in the BP bow for crit. Seems like it could be pretty fun with big melt numbers and mini-Venti procs with the bow. Gonna hold off for a bit on going either direction until hearing some impressions though.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:10
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Fur20 posted:so, what exactly influences the height of the updraft at stone gate? i must've stepped on it like 100 times and i only saw it get the high form once, when my friend stepped on it in multiplayer
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Jan 11, 2021 22:13
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Fur20 posted:so, what exactly influences the height of the updraft at stone gate? i must've stepped on it like 100 times and i only saw it get the high form once, when my friend stepped on it in multiplayer No Wave posted:Dropping a rock on it. Draft stops once it's no longer being pressed. There's also a tree you can bonk your head on that keeps you from rising to max height.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:16
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excited for team 4 bows.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:17
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wait the game already has 4 bows? huh.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:18
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Vargs posted:With the way Xingqiu works I question how viable it will be to apply freeze reliably with Ganyu. His kit doesn't really synergize with a long-range character that uses charged bow shots. Without having Mona I'm starting to lean towards a melt comp with her, possibly using Wanderer's Troupe and investing in the BP bow for crit. Seems like it could be pretty fun with big melt numbers and mini-Venti procs with the bow. Gonna hold off for a bit on going either direction until hearing some impressions though. With his Q at least you could probably just fire a single normal shot between charges to proc the swords and get them wet. Edit: Admittedly Ganyu's kit would probably waste a ton of Q damage. Clarste fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 11, 2021 |
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Jan 11, 2021 22:25
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So what's the verdict on Ganyu's ideal equipment? I'm assuming it's Crescent/Ice Artifacts?
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Jan 11, 2021 22:30
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kater posted:wait the game already has 4 bows?
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Jan 11, 2021 22:40
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Framboise posted:So what's the verdict on Ganyu's ideal equipment? I'm assuming it's Crescent/Ice Artifacts? I like Blackcliff over Crescent because it's easier to gear with crit damage on the weapon and you don't need to worry as much about hitting weak spots but either choice is good, Fav bow might be decent depending on how her energy generation is and based on how good her ultimate is.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:42
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I'm like 60 posts behind but I think the guy who made that Artifact spreadsheet is a goon or something, because I just noticed that everyone got updated to show what kind of stats they want for their artifacts. Which was a thing I was wondering like 3 days ago. Anyway, I've got Diluc up to 70/70 and I don't have enough pyrovine materials to ascend him again yet. Should I work on that first or just gear him up with artifacts first? I've got 4/5 decent Crimson Witch artifacts already so should I upgrade those first and then start worrying about talents? I don't really know the order I should take for these things.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:43
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Level 70 is good enough for 99.9% of content.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:47
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What exactly is the damage multiplier for hitting a weak point anyway?
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Jan 11, 2021 22:47
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Ideal weapon is Amos's Bow, despite the lack of crit stats. I know it's the joke 5* but that was only because no character wanted to run primarily with Aimed Shots other than Amber before now, and the effect on it is completely bonkers broken for a ranged attacker. If an arrow is in flight for at least half a second, you get +52% Charged Shot DMG at R1. DMG% is by far the hardest of all stats to stack heavily and that bonus is super dumb, especially on a character whose Charged Shots are going to have significantly higher damage output. If the bonus also applies to the Frostflake Arrow's AoE (will require testing to know if it gets the 52% or just the base 12%), she's going to be crazy good with it even without reactions. In terms of set, I'm assuming Wanderer's if you're not running a freeze comp, which I think is likely only going to be truly viable with Mona or a big-brained big-walleted Tartaglia. She seems extremely expensive to get going otherwise, unless her damage is so high without reactions that she doesn't care in which case just set up the occasional Bennett wombo combo Melt and just shoot things otherwise.
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Clarste posted:What exactly is the damage multiplier for hitting a weak point anyway?
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