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If all of youse wanted to eat the posh-people school dinners, you should have worked harder back in your amniotic sacs, frankly
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Jan 12, 2021 13:19
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Should just bring back a ration of gruel for the little oiks. Two tablespoons of flour, a teaspoon of salt. All the nutrients a growing lad needs.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:19
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Gonzo McFee posted:I can't tell if it's gaining traction because people care about poor kids or if nobody gives a gently caress about the kids they just don't like to see their taxes spent so nakedly poorly. 10 months or so ago when the first school lockdowns were coming into play, I got served a very similar "hamper" (a torn and pre-used carrier bag) that largely consisted of a loaf of shitewhite, some eggs of unknown provenance, around a kilo of spuds and a bunch of green bananas. Many others had similar experiences. This time around there seems to be more traction but the usual suspects are already lining up with the old classics "We cant give them money because they will spend it on crack and prostitutes" "We cant give them vouchers because even though it's a technical impossibility they will spend it on booze and fags, my mates cousins brothers stepmum who knows someone who works at morrisons swears its happening" "Well someone needs to tell them to sell the only forms of entertainment they have before they can access help, and also frivolous things like a basic phone contract need to end- they can contact their employers via smoke signals instead… just make sure it's not from a cigarette"
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Jan 12, 2021 13:25
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I suggest we open a brothel and/or tobacconist that doesn't accept cash, just basic foodstuffs. Checkmate gammons.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:35
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keep punching joe posted:Should just bring back a ration of Huel for the little oiks.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:35
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This is the horse meat scandal company too. And the parent company got smashed for millions in damages from ripping off the New York school board.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:39
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Guavanaut posted:Got to get those corporate partnerships in somehow. And Huel would be actually balanced nutritionally as opposed to that crap in the picture.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:40
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serious gaylord posted:This is the horse meat scandal company too.
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Jan 12, 2021 13:45
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DesperateDan posted:10 months or so ago when the first school lockdowns were coming into play, I got served a very similar "hamper" (a torn and pre-used carrier bag) that largely consisted of a loaf of shitewhite, some eggs of unknown provenance, around a kilo of spuds and a bunch of green bananas. Many others had similar experiences. The complete refusal to do anything for anybody because someone somewhere might do something against very strict protestant morality never fails to shock me. Just the weakest excuse for apathy to the suffering of others dressed up as wise morality. I hate it. And even if the parent receiving £30 spent 2/3rds of that on booze and fags they'd have still gotten more for their money than what they got in these "Hampers".
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Jan 12, 2021 13:46
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Danger - Octopus! posted:If people don't follow Jack Monroe, she's got a thread on twitter about how lovely some of the food parcels that replaced vouchers are. kinda loling at the meals you'd be supposed to make with that £30 haul. once the tin of beans is gone it's cheese and carrot pasta and potato sandwiches
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Paperhouse posted:kinda loling at the meals you'd be supposed to make with that £30 haul. once the tin of beans is gone it's cheese and carrot pasta and potato sandwiches Yeah it's a joke. Various local shops started doing fruit & veg delivery boxes during the pandemic and for under £30 from them you can get a box packed with stuff that lasts over a week and is heavy enough that it's hard to lift but somehow a big company doing things at scale just shoves in a fiver's worth of stuff and boom job done, profit made and don't care about the recipients. It's legit sickening
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Gonzo McFee posted:The complete refusal to do anything for anybody because someone somewhere might do something against very strict protestant morality never fails to shock me. Just the weakest excuse for apathy to the suffering of others dressed up as wise morality. I hate it.
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Jose posted:The executives of the Chinese company who were behind the baby milk formula scandal got dealt with extremely harshly and we should do the same here imo Imagine things having consequences for rich people  I guessing if something like Grenfell happened in Bejing the result would not be "we'll give you immunity for anything you say at the inquest".
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Yeah it's a joke. Various local shops started doing fruit & veg delivery boxes during the pandemic and for under £30 from them you can get a box packed with stuff that lasts over a week and is heavy enough that it's hard to lift but somehow a big company doing things at scale just shoves in a fiver's worth of stuff and boom job done, profit made and don't care about the recipients. It's legit sickening What's infuriating is that it isn't a £5 worth of food. It's what you'd pay for it shopping in Asda. This is a company that deals in scale purchase and bulk buying. They not only get the stuff going into these hampers at a massively reduced cost they have a huge amount of produce that needs to be used up before it rots and is wasted. They could have put £50 worth of supermarket priced food in these kits and not lost a penny. But they wouldn't have made as much money. Its naked evil and selfishness.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:00
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Bobby Deluxe posted:As I understand it, it's not the price you bought it for, it's how much it would cost to buy an equivalent replacement under current market conditions. At least it was with the insurer we had (Churchill or Direct Line IIRC). Sort of. Churchil and Direct Line probably have new-for-old cover included in their home policies, which is additional cover separate from the bare value of the object. A "traditional" insurance policy pays out the value of the object at the time of loss, and this is simplifying a lot but it's less "how much would it cost to buy an equivalent replacement today" and more "what would have been a fair price had you sold the lost object". That might sound like a distinction without a difference, but it's important to grasp that the object you lost wasn't new at the time of its loss. That matters more for some things than others. Consider the DVD example. Say you bought a DVD copy of The Matrix Trilogy for £30 a decade ago and its gets stolen. Under a new for old policy (now common in Home Insurance, much more limited for other kinds of insurance), the insurer looks at the price of a new copy of the Matrix Trilogy and sees you can buy it for £10 on amazon, so you get £10. A more traditional-style insurance policy observes that your copy of the Matrix Trilogy wasn't brand new, it was 10 years old, and asks how much is a used copy of the Matrix Trilogy worth? Probably like £3 at a car boot sale, so you get £3. A less facetious example would be car insurance, many policies have a new-for-old replacement service if your car is written off within the first year of its life, but after that year is up, you only get what the car is worth (again simplifying, but roughly, "what could you sell it for?"). This bare value standard is also what would be used if you had no insurance at all and were taking a negligent party to court for recovery, which is why it's the standard and new-for-old replacement is additional coverage over and above.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:12
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They should be looking into who awarded this contract and what bribes they received. Old Lady anecdote chat: When I worked in the NHS, approx 25 years ago, out of the blue, I received a bottle of champagne and a leather filofax in the post. Then I got a phone call from a woman saying: "Our MD wants to take you out to lunch". Automatically suspicious me: "Why?" "We've got a computer cleaning kit you may be interested in, £161" "Send me a sample" Wait a few days: (I did not take up offer of lunch, nor drink champagne, nor use filofax) Sample kit arrives: 1 can of cleaning foam + some cotton wool balls and buds. Total value maybe £3 - less on a bulk sale. Me to company "I can't possibly authorize this, it is absolutely not worth it". Followed it up with a memo to my boss detailing the ins and outs. Added the champagne and filofax to the pile of contractor Also know of someone in the NHS who spec'd a tender for 10 bathrooms to be redone in one of the residences - there were only 9. The 10th was in her house. Am darn sure this goes on all over the place.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:23
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As always, the UK isn't a state, it's an elaborate money laundering operation. At least the Caymans get some loving sun.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:30
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The amazing thing is that the failure of centralised food distribution to efficiently meet the needs of the people is the strongest argument against soviet style Communism. The entire argument for free-market capitalism hinges on free market choice? So just give the parents the £30 for gently caress sake. Someone help me refine this thought and I'll submit it to spiked or something for a laugh.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:33
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"The Woke Left Wants More Tory Socialist Centralism, It's A Failure, Just Hand Out The Cash" ___\ 
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Jan 12, 2021 14:37
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Failed Imagineer posted:The Grauniad is having a special on brain spiders today He has a very large majority for almost four years, how little an understanding of politics do you need to make such a ridiculous prediction
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Jan 12, 2021 14:41
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Ripping people off relies on an asymmetry of information that the person paying has no idea what the good/service actually costs to provide. The fact they thought they could get away with de facto ripping millions of people off over common basic food just shows how utterly shameless they are, and also completely incompetent.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:45
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If you are interested in the politics etc behind school meals here is an interesting article about the large catering corporations which are all vying to get these massive contracts. I only know Chartwells/Compass from the UK side where Chartwell is aimed at the education sector and Compass at corporate events/hotels but it look like a similar situation in the US. Unsurpringly the whole school dinners thing went to a big company, who would have thought it... https://kappanonline.org/big-business-school-meals-food-service-gaddis/
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Jan 12, 2021 14:48
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You would think that if the govt were serious about keeping the hospitality industry going, they would support local hospitality outlets providing the services to local schools etc..
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Ripping people off relies on an asymmetry of information that the person paying has no idea what the good/service actually costs to provide. The fact they thought they could get away with de facto ripping millions of people off over common basic food just shows how utterly shameless they are, and also completely incompetent. It makes you wonder what they do get away with when the evidence is quietly eaten by a hungry child in school rather than being sent home for the parents to see. https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1348940575932874752?s=19 Give him a minute, he'll work it out.
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Jan 12, 2021 14:56
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I guess you really can be bis3xual, alt, mentally ill, liberal and have a tory cabinet minister as a father and make it work. Thank you for showing it's possible 420bandobaby
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Jan 12, 2021 14:59
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Oh, so just because her mum & dad obviously got her the job you assume she's not qualified to get the job based on her own merits? This is classism of the worst kind.
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Jan 12, 2021 15:06
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Isn't huel where you subscribe to cereal bars lol?
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Jan 12, 2021 15:08
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I'm loving this idea of charity via private contractors. Perhaps we can pay a company to house the homeless? Give them like maybe £5000 a pop and the company books the cheapest rooms at the Premier Inn? (with one Mayfair penthouse suite for the company director's daughter recently made homeless by being 'kicked out' of the family mansion)
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Jan 12, 2021 15:13
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Some friends turned to drink and drugs says ticktok poster 420bandobaby who's previous posts include saying that she can't smoke weed anymore because she's got Covid symptoms and how she'd spend three birthdays worth of money for an ounce. Next up we talk to Priti Patel about how she wants harsher sentences for middle class drug takers.
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Jan 12, 2021 15:14
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stev posted:https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1348940575932874752?s=19 A wax dummy of Alec Baldwin has somehow gotten a hangover
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Jan 12, 2021 15:14
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Jan 12, 2021 15:24
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stev posted:It makes you wonder what they do get away with when the evidence is quietly eaten by a hungry child in school rather than being sent home for the parents to see. Weird that Keir is wearing a small latex mask of his face over his own face.
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Reveilled posted:Under a new for old policy (now common in Home Insurance, much more limited for other kinds of insurance), the insurer looks at the price of a new copy of the Matrix Trilogy and sees you can buy it for £10 on amazon, so you get £10. A more traditional-style insurance policy observes that your copy of the Matrix Trilogy wasn't brand new, it was 10 years old, and asks how much is a used copy of the Matrix Trilogy worth? Probably like £3 at a car boot sale, so you get £3. If I was on a new-for-old policy I can imagine some hideous emails going back and forth explaining why £10 for a new Star Wars single disc edition from Tesco is not going to be adequate compensation. Same for the Japanese imports of some early Manics albums that have interviews with the band, including Richey. Hang on, I am on a new-for-old policy. poo poo. Angepain posted:can't wait for this obviously systemic problem to be blamed on individuals somehow
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