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Pikehead posted:I'm still not quite sure what they were trying to do with Tomorrowland and who exactly the movie was targetted at. Bird has talked about how his inspiration was being a kid at the 1964’s World Fair and how he felt that sort of optimistic futurism had faded away from society, and him wanting to make a movie about what happened, and how to bring that feeling back. What came out was... that. Mostly because Disney said “here’s over $200 million, make whatever you want” since Bird had just made the jump to live action with Ghost Protocol and seemed like an unassailable genius because of his animation career, and making a giant movie that basically operated as a blowjob to Walt (who himself was obsessed with world’s fairs and other things that would end up leading him to making Disneyland and redefining the business of the Disney company) that they likely thought could let them retrofit the Tomorrowland of the parks with a whole bunch of new rides and attractions was enticing. None of it panned out, of course, movie’s only coming up on being six years old and it’s like it never existed. Just thrown into the same bin that John Carter was. Bird had to go make an Incredibles sequel as a mea culpa. Clooney hasn’t even floated the idea of doing a big blockbuster since. What’s amazing is that the editing of the movie is so terrible, just lifeless and utilitarian. And then you go “oh, well, okay, maybe the — Walter Murch was one of the editors on this?” and it becomes a whole new level of “what the gently caress happened?” How does one get the editor of Coppola’s classics, put him with the guy who edits Gore Verbinski’s movies and since 2014 is slowly becoming the Marvel in-house editor, and get... that?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Best trailer to not great movies, you say? Might not be top tier Fincher but I find TGWTDT very rewatchable. Glad it managed to win a deserved Oscar for editing too, I can't think of another director whose films are cut so quickly while still being able to convey a ton of information.
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The Cameo posted:Bird has talked about how his inspiration was being a kid at the 1964’s World Fair and how he felt that sort of optimistic futurism had faded away from society, and him wanting to make a movie about what happened, and how to bring that feeling back. Disney also fired Walter Murch, arguably the greatest film editor in history, as a warning shot over Bird's bow (also because I believe DGA rules state you can't fire the director without firing the editor first). Everyone knew the film was essentially doomed once that happened.
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Pikehead posted:I'm still not quite sure what they were trying to do with Tomorrowland and who exactly the movie was targetted at. I thought the movie was going to be Bioshock but with the World's Fair as the setting of corrupted ideals instead, which I thought would have been great. But then instead you get Tomorrowland, where I guess the message is to be positive or some such? I dunno.
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The Cameo posted:Bird has talked about how his inspiration was being a kid at the 1964’s World Fair and how he felt that sort of optimistic futurism had faded away from society, and him wanting to make a movie about what happened, and how to bring that feeling back.
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JJ Abrams? And uh Lord and Miller jumped (heh) from animation to live action and made the funniest reboot of all time .
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Vegetable posted:How the hell did an animation guy with zero live action experience get to direct Mission Impossible as his first live action? I'm surprised it didn't go more badly Probably because there's a very particular set of rails an MI movie needs to travel. He was forced to work within constraints. John Carter and Tomorrowland didn't have that safety net, and the result was the trapeze artist splattered all over the floor of the circus tent. CelticPredator posted:JJ Abrams? And uh Lord and Miller jumped (heh) from animation to live action and made the funniest reboot of all time . Which one was that? (The Lord and Miller reboot that is) Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Jan 12, 2021 19:31
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CelticPredator posted:21-22 Jump Street Man those are legit good times
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Vegetable posted:How the hell did an animation guy with zero live action experience get to direct Mission Impossible as his first live action? I'm surprised it didn't go more badly JJ and Cruise wanted him. Animation direction can and does have its benefits to doing action/fx heavy movies, since so much of the production has to be planned ahead of time to an insane degree to maximize footage per dollar cost, as well as the director having to be accustomed to letting several units go off and produce that footage that you expect will meet your approval without your direct oversight in the moment. Either sort of movie become real tests of clarity of vision and a capability to explain what you are exactly looking for as a director. Surprises in production must be kept to a minimum. “Happy accidents” are practically verboten. And both animated and action movies need strong visual storytelling chops to be effective. So you can see where the “why don’t we hire an animator to direct it” idea might pop into people’s heads.
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Still unbelievable that Lord/Miller got hired for Solo, most likely due to the kind of humor they would inject into it, and ended up getting fired from Solo, most likely due to the kind of humor they injected into it. I didn't mind Solo overall, but it was something I was so, so looking forward to seeing.
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I know people that worked in production on Tomorrowland and Bird's directing style was to yell emotional instructions over the actors during every shot like "NOW YOU'RE REALLY SAD" and "DO AN ANGRY ONE ANGRIER NOW START TO CRY" like he was in a voice over session on a sound stage or giving instructions to an animator.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Still unbelievable that Lord/Miller got hired for Solo, most likely due to the kind of humor they would inject into it, and ended up getting fired from Solo, most likely due to the kind of humor they injected into it. The idea to hire the improv guys from the Jump Street movie on a film produced by a guy whose most famous quote is "if it's not on the page it's not on the screen" will never cease to amaze me, and IMHO that's 100% on Kathleen Kennedy. Dillbag fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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CelticPredator posted:21-22 Jump Street Huh. For some reason I never knew that was them Agreed though. Funny as hell.
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Pikehead posted:I'm still not quite sure what they were trying to do with Tomorrowland and who exactly the movie was targetted at. I remember Tmrwland mostly as scenes of old people yelling at TV screens.
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I loving love Tomorrowland so everyone needs to stfu I've long thought of making a thread that was "Critically Panned Movies You Unironically Love" with Tomorrowland as the basis. But my criteria was going to be that the movie has to have less than a 50% on RT. Tomorrowland has exactly 50%.
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I need to sit down and watch Tomorrowland because I absolutely loved the vibe of the trailers but word of mouth on it at release put me off following up. Shame, because World's Fairs are immensely interesting topics in the History, Geography, and American Studies fields (among others) and dissecting how various aspects of it as an culture shaping event get encapsulated in a film about nostalgia, potential, return to greatness, etc would probably be right up my alley.
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Mat Cauthon posted:I need to sit down and watch Tomorrowland because I absolutely loved the vibe of the trailers but word of mouth on it at release put me off following up. Shame, because World's Fairs are immensely interesting topics in the History, Geography, and American Studies fields (among others) and dissecting how various aspects of it as an culture shaping event get encapsulated in a film about nostalgia, potential, return to greatness, etc would probably be right up my alley. I really liked the movie until they actually got to Tomorrowland, which is where everything kind of just falls apart.
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It's a really fun movie, but if you look up "third-act problems" in the dictionary there's a picture of this movie.
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Dillbag posted:The idea to hire the improv guys from the Jump Street movie on a film produced by a guy whose most famous quote is "if it's not on the page it's not on the screen" will never cease to amaze me, and IMHO that's 100% on Kathleen Kennedy.
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CelticPredator posted:Don’t forget Larry kasden who was getting aggro about them ruining his script. That’s who they were referring to
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Mat Cauthon posted:I need to sit down and watch Tomorrowland because I absolutely loved the vibe of the trailers but word of mouth on it at release put me off following up. Shame, because World's Fairs are immensely interesting topics in the History, Geography, and American Studies fields (among others) and dissecting how various aspects of it as an culture shaping event get encapsulated in a film about nostalgia, potential, return to greatness, etc would probably be right up my alley. I need to read the Devil in the White City. Ive heard great things.
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Shageletic posted:I need to read the Devil in the White City. Ive heard great things. The World's Fair portion is great but the H.H. Holmes portion is not only meh, but it's completely invalidated by modern research that reveals that most of the gruesome stories about Holmes (including his infamous "murder hotel", whose secret rooms were likely just used to store stolen goods) were fabrications by the police (who wanted to pin every crime in Chicago on Holmes), the press (who at the time blatantly made poo poo up) and Holmes himself (who was a pathological liar). Holmes definitely killed at least 9 people but probably no more than that and certainly not up to 200.
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The Cameo posted:Bird has talked about how his inspiration was being a kid at the 1964’s World Fair and how he felt that sort of optimistic futurism had faded away from society, and him wanting to make a movie about what happened, and how to bring that feeling back. Flat really describes how it turned out for me. One of the few times I've come out of a movie and gone "I paid money for that?".
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Breaking News in Yuba County - I did a little bit of digital prop work on this. Read the script and it was a fun read. Hopefully it translates to screen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENv0B-jX3O4
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John Carter is really good, fight me. The best Amazing Trailer, poo poo Movie is Pearl Harbor (the one with Journey to the Line score)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRvZ8siWLY It is without irony or sarcasm that I say Butt Boy moved me emotionally more than any other new movie I saw last year. It is really good.
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confused posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRvZ8siWLY  The described plot would make me think I'm watching someone's fetish but that actually looks kinda good?
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lmao what the hell definitely gonna watch that
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I love the stylized aesthetic—everything is so stark and crisp. I'm so tired of bland naturalism.
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Carthag Tuek posted:lmao what the hell FYI... you can stream it for free if you have Amazon Prime.
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feedmyleg posted:I love the stylized aesthetic—everything is so stark and crisp. I'm so tired of bland naturalism. The performances are amazing as well. It's an interesting mix of stylized over the top behavior combined with subtle layered emotional reactions. It's a balancing act that they execute almost flawlessly. I don't know anything about the film makers, but they approach Coen Brothers level of skill in maintaining that balance.
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Ammanas posted:John Carter is really good, fight me. It is, friend.
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confused posted:FYI... you can stream it for free if you have Amazon Prime. Thank you for mentioning this. Because I will.
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Just found this on Twitter, could be interesting? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USi-ppCfxEA
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Schlocky horror and Nic Cage; highly looking forward to this.
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is that the one that was sued for being a ripoff of the game? and the banana splits was a different movie? someone break it down for me please
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Maybe if they made the movie instead of suing people beating them to the punch maybe they’d have one out by now.
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A Chicken Soup for the Soul Media Company. CSftS (yes, the self help book) expansion into junk bond films and tv remains funny to me.
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