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Cease to Hope posted:Giving up on that was one of a bunch of mistakes and mismanagement decisions from back then, although it's not a story I know everything about. I don't think anyone is really happy with how it shook out, though. I hope not at least. Honestly, it wasn't. Because it is ours, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever believe that we are impartial. Give up on the idea if it ever even enters your brain. The ship has sailed long ago.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Honestly, it wasn't. Because it is ours, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever believe that we are impartial. Give up on the idea if it ever even enters your brain. The ship has sailed long ago. Knowing that and trying anyway made it more interesting and more informative. It wasn't, like, great writing, but it was pretty good, and having everyone raging at a flawed decent effort when the alternative was poo poo like evenews24 was a good trick on top of that. Anyway. Water under the bridge.
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coelomate posted:Yeah that one-time only SP pack is sweet, I bought it for an almost-Orca alt and it helped get me hooked on steady lazy income. Klyith posted:As it turns out, CCP selling skillpoints is what we should have wanted all along as long a SP were gonna be sold. I was going to say: at this juncture of the game's life, 18 years in, I'm substantially more okay with it. A decade and a half ago I would've been up in arms and it would've felt pay-to-win, but at this point character trading has been a thing for so long, PLEX was devised to help facilitate that and counter ISK selling, skill extractors are a (good) thing, and people keep coming back from such long breaks from the game with skills for Neat poo poo™ now missing that it just makes sense to sell a limited number of outright SP, either for retvets to catch up or for newbies to climb into hulls faster if they wish to go that route. Like, I imagine I'm hardly the only retvet on the Imperium side alone who has logged back in full of piss, vinegar and Wing Commander soundtracks only to, for example, discover there's a new, 500k+ SP wall per fighter class to using individual fighter types well (and unlocking the T2 fighters if you have Fighters V), never mind the training now needed to make one's hangar capacity good. And that's not even factoring in things like doctrine shifts or old, previously-neglected skills getting reworked to be more important. Things that onboard people faster will help retention at this point, and there are so many high-SP characters in warfare now that helping others fill in skill holes and make "new" high-level combat characters is not going to swing the ~balance of power~ to that great a degree, outside of the fact that people will actually stick around for a while.
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Klyith posted:you have to admit that 5 real players are more interesting to the game than 1 guy controlling 5 accounts.) Have you met globby?
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/89916405/ on my first kill mail in about 10 years.
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Fanelien posted:https://zkillboard.com/kill/89916405/  goonfriend. The hellcamp is a good and snuggly place to re-acquaint oneself with shooting people in the space video game.
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SpaceDrake posted:A decade and a half ago I would've been up in arms and it would've felt pay-to-win, I've just generally found that eve doesn't have a pay2win advantage at any time, because so much of what makes winning happen in eve is things you can't pay for. Knowledge, economic insight, political acumen, charisma, you can't pay CCP for any of that. If someone wins a pvp duel because they p2w'd one of the OP triangulon ships, they probably didn't have a massively wide gap in pvp experience against the guy they fought. And that's the place where buying advantage has the most impact, a 1 on 1 fight. orange juche posted:Have you met globby? Definitely an exception.
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always get your one: https://fleetcom.space/battlereport/MEQkGCnYrvconFfuX
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I now have 5 solo kills after getting two tonight  https://zkillboard.com/kill/89917494/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/89917564/ That claw also was part of a 20 man jackdaw fleet that warped onto me right as I killed them and disrupted me. Fun thing is tho, the claw is faster than missiles. I got out in 3% structure lol I also got the final scram on this loki https://zkillboard.com/kill/89917589/ Stereotype fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Stereotype posted:I now have 5 solo kills after getting two tonight i gotta get better at flying and also start soloing in my claws, i've lost one claw and two stilettos since coming back. at least i've been able to tackle some stuff.
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orange juche posted:So did they manage to stage a breakout or are they still royally hosed? they tried one early this morning and lost an interceptor fleet for basically nothing in return, they came back later with another fleet but didn't really do much of anything. popped some bubbles that were immediately replaced, that's it. the reality is that if they really try and organize an effective breakout attempt that could maybe have enough people show up to potentially actually work, we will know about it in advance and be able to organize a counter-fleet to prevent it from working. their morale is poo poo and their numbers have been dropping, i don't see them getting out any time soon.
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 After many years of searching I've found it, the pubbiest profile.
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Klyith posted:I've just generally found that eve doesn't have a pay2win advantage at any time, because so much of what makes winning happen in eve is things you can't pay for. Knowledge, economic insight, political acumen, charisma, you can't pay CCP for any of that. Interestingly, Toilet EVE has been seeing a fair amount of this; you still can't RMT for skills too easily in that game, but you can RMT for ships like a motherfucker, and there have been a lot of people clearly RMTing "uber" ships and obviously expecting to Just Win. They also didn't expect their ships to just vanish into the ether when blown up (as Toilet EVE actually lacks ship insurance entirely past very basic hulls). It also probably doesn't help that, for some reason, Toilet EVE was getting advertisements in line with many other mobile titles at launch (I remember the one where an ORE vessel would just upgrade from a Venture up to a Noctis as it hoovered in ore. But in a lot of ways, Echoes is a faithful adaptation of EVE, so tons of folks just durdled in expecting to be uber and ended up losing billions of isk (and hundreds of dollars) at a blow. DEEP STATE PLOT posted:the reality is that if they really try and organize an effective breakout attempt that could maybe have enough people show up to potentially actually work, we will know about it in advance and be able to organize a counter-fleet to prevent it from working. their morale is poo poo and their numbers have been dropping, i don't see them getting out any time soon. We were discussing it in fleet and it has to be emphasized: any kind of reinforcement fleet organized by trapi has to travel, at a minimum, five jumps from T5Z to reach M2-. Aside from hellcamp participants, meanwhile, the Imperium can simply deliver reinforcements on demand via either jump or Gooncannon from 1DQ (or, theoretically, almost anywhere in Delve). Moreover, a lot of wider trapi assets are devoted to trying to defend their assets in Querious and Catch from counter-aggression or just opportunistic attack; serious muster at T5Z requires some of the membership to travel from outside of Delve to muster in T5Z, giving us more time to rally and reinforce the hellcamp. At some point, they're either going to have to force another colossal fight (which will likely end poorly for them) or they'll just have to suicide the lot of their pilots to free them and put the fleets back together. The trapping of so many combat pilots is very clearly hampering their effectiveness. vulvamancer posted:
i love how this guy wants to be a sith so badly but makes the whole "there is no [x]" thing sound even dumber
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vulvamancer posted:
In the most pubbie corp, too 
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SpaceDrake posted:Moreover, a lot of wider trapi assets are devoted to trying to defend their assets in Querious and Catch from counter-aggression or just opportunistic attack; serious muster at T5Z requires some of the membership to travel from outside of Delve to muster in T5Z, giving us more time to rally and reinforce the hellcamp. yeah, i mean papi's breakout attempts today have consisted of shooting bubbles over where the brave supers are trapped because brave is getting their poo poo pushed in over in catch and absolutely need those supers to defend their poo poo right the gently caress now. keeping them trapped isn't just loving their morale and hurting their numbers in delve, it's also causing them to lose fights they need to win elsewhere as well. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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vulvamancer posted:
Lacks whole rainbow puke of colors tho
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Erulisse posted:Lacks whole rainbow puke of colors tho Toss a coin to your pubbie and you might just see it Dr. Kayak Paddle fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Honestly, it wasn't. Because it is ours, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will ever believe that we are impartial. Give up on the idea if it ever even enters your brain. The ship has sailed long ago. I believed it. 
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vulvamancer posted:
tbf, "Ransom Fleet" kind of has a nice ring to it.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/89911455/ They're kicking pilots who are stuck logged off lmao
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Solus posted:https://zkillboard.com/kill/89911455/ It's been quite a few years since I've played and the game is still mostly a mystery to me, but are they just trickling in randomly and getting killed immediately by a standing fleet?
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Solus posted:https://zkillboard.com/kill/89911455/ loving pubbies 
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Solus posted:https://zkillboard.com/kill/89911455/ Mah Killboards!
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Raged posted:Big push for M2 happening 
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Raged posted:Big push for M2 happening yeah they seem serious for once
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Solus posted:They have anchored a morale azbel 30au from the keepstsar oh no... whatever shall we do?
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oh hell yeah since a bunch of us got popped laying down bubbles to cover for the ones they were blowing up i ended up on several killmails of goons that died, this is great
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Zesty posted:It's been quite a few years since I've played and the game is still mostly a mystery to me, but are they just trickling in randomly and getting killed immediately by a standing fleet? Yes, that's been the story of the past two weeks or so now. They're finally trying to (re)establish a foothold, but we know exactly where it is and can form up to obliterate it in firey hellwar in 48 hours.
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Solus posted:https://zkillboard.com/kill/89911455/ He’s already back in Horde. Can’t let that Thanatos loss hurt the official numbers!
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Bob Socko posted:He’s already back in Horde. Can’t let that Thanatos loss hurt the official numbers! this the most pathetic thing i've ever heard of lmfao
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