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I'd say DH has one Bad card and that's Blur, but yeah thats about it lol. I've pointed this out before, but I'm pretty sure like 90% of their Starter Set has been nerfed by now. Most still sees play after pretty significant nerfs too which says a lot.
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even Blur is good because it enables the best win condition, rod of roasting
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Jan 10, 2021 17:39
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Fair, I can agree that Blur is bad - although, that being said, the least bad "bad" cards are the 0-mana spells. They always tend to find a use eventually. I actually think Blur might make the cut in some other classes; for Demon Hunter it's excessive because you have other (better) ways to heal damage. you aren't ever running a Gadgetzan to cycle, and have no spell-based card generation or activated effects. I could see Blur being borderline playable in something like Rogue or Druid.
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Jan 10, 2021 18:43
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:It absolutely did. Evolve Shaman was at the top of the ranks and had winning matchups (blue squares instead of orange) against almost every single deck prior to the nerf. What is the data source for this and what is the sample size? I look forward to the coming vicious syndicate article.
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Jan 10, 2021 19:16
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Just came in second place in a game of BGs where my final boss had a fully golden board of: Goldgrubber, Salty Looter, Boat, Eliza, Ripsnarl, Hoggarr and Elistra. Never seen anything like it lol, not even mad. It wasn't even a 20 turn marathon or anything.
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Jan 10, 2021 21:54
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Ornery and Hornery posted:What is the data source for this and what is the sample size? https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/data-reaper-live-beta/
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Jan 10, 2021 21:55
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Just the final turn. Not gonna lie, I didn't do the math on this one, but hey ... https://hsreplay.net/replay/JEpSKSKC56NszVcFTFt9y8#turn=14b
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Jan 11, 2021 01:33
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Yeah gonna dust my Shaman weapons, I can use 800 dust. There's no point in continuing to play the deck, the most popular meta decks (maybe excepting Warlock?) can stop it cold.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I'd say DH has one Bad card and that's Blur, but yeah thats about it lol. I've pointed this out before, but I'm pretty sure like 90% of their Starter Set has been nerfed by now. Most still sees play after pretty significant nerfs too which says a lot. coilfang warlord not being good enough still astounds me.
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It's a very good card for a deck that DH doesn't really go for. Their reload is so good that there's no reason for them to play expensive bombs and risk early tempo for late-game value.
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Jan 11, 2021 11:16
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Aww, HSDT patched out whatever it was that let you see C'Thun pieces in your opponent's hand...
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I really wish that I knew who on the design team likes the dumb Karazhan chess brawl because it keeps coming back with new hats and it is always interminable to actually play.
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Jan 14, 2021 02:28
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Combo Rogue still feels good, I just cut Edwin for Sap/SI:7.
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NorgLyle posted:I really wish that I knew who on the design team likes the dumb Karazhan chess brawl because it keeps coming back with new hats and it is always interminable to actually play. Yeah, that one and the co-ops are the only hard passes for me.
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Jan 14, 2021 04:31
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I know this game is bad and sucks now, but I am so very close to 12 wins at Duels with Deathrattle/Cannibalism hunter. 11-2 baby. Let's gooooo. Edit: I got utterly loving annihilated by a weapons rogue by turn 5 
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Jan 14, 2021 06:58
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I remember the first time I saw the chess brawl someone itt speculated it was them working on an autobattler and then battlegrounds came out and it seemed like they were right but then blizzard just kept doing it anyway and I suspect they just hate us
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I like the chess tavern brawl now that the hilarious Toxmonger combo has been pointed out to me. Just play Toxmonger / Toxic Arrow and a bunch of other removal.
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Jan 14, 2021 17:07
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Imagine playing tavern brawl after you got your pack...
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Jan 14, 2021 17:10
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Just play with 6 mage spells that go face.
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it's probably less efficient but rogue with plaguebringer and plague scientist is fun
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I'm willing to give Bogspine Knuckles the 1 attack back if it means we can have a meta that's not 70% Hunter and 30% DH
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Julio Cruz posted:I'm willing to give Bogspine Knuckles the 1 attack back if it means we can have a meta that's not 70% Hunter and 30% DH Just play Combo Rogue 
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Jan 14, 2021 21:11
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Boatswain posted:Just play Combo Rogue Or Pure Paladin
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World War Mammories posted:it's probably less efficient but rogue with plaguebringer and plague scientist is fun This reliably crashes my game on mobile too!
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Darkmoon Tonk has to be up there in vaguely underrated cards. When you've got a pile of activators available, it really shines. Dane has put up a video of a wild deck using it as a centrepiece paired with Necromechanic.. I've had my own go with it (swapping some secrets and trueaim for more activators, especially firework tech, and teching in Flare because ice block can get to gently caress) and it is wonderfully brutal. You can easily murder people, and there's plenty of room for useful subs.
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Jan 14, 2021 23:05
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I actually lost to a Tonk deck in Standard earlier, mostly because I was expecting aggro so I mulliganed away my Devolving Missiles
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Julio Cruz posted:I actually lost to a Tonk deck in Standard earlier, mostly because I was expecting aggro so I mulliganed away my Devolving Missiles Yeah, if you don't have a transform on hand, a lot of people won't touch the thing. Which can be a very, very deadly mistake.
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I live beating control warriors right now. They're all relying on the ETC combo to win it seems at least on my ladder and you beat them by just....not having a board for them to attack into. It's amazing. Eventually they get frustrated and play a combo piece to try and copy an extra armormsmith or something then you can play all your threats with impunity.
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If they're really rotating Classis (and Basic?) in favor of a MtG like rotating core-set, are they undoing all the nerfs, not just Edwin's? Will they make Leroy cost 4 again? Will they un-murder Warsong Commander? How much of an effect would that even have, like would an unnerfed Ancient of Lore even see play in wild? Or in standard for that matter, if it became part of a year's core set?
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Probably not. Cards have been reverted on an individual basis before (molten giant and Dr Boom Mad Genius, maybe others).
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Hell, they could put Undertaker back to what it was originally for a bit of a switch up. Don't think it would cut the mustard in a tier1 deck these days. The old Warsong Commander is the one they shouldn't revert - giving things Charge is a gamebreaking ability. Could quite happily revert the nerf and change the Charge keyword into Rush though...
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Their best bet is to honestly completely redo the basic and at least half of the classic set, and switch up how dust works. The rewards track was a good start to freshen things up but there's good competition out now and overall waning interest for what is now an old rear end card game.
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How would you propose they redo dust? Apart from just giving us more.
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People actually finding a use for that Paladin 8/8 Legendary Dragon is something I find incredibly shocking
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Orange Crush Rush posted:People actually finding a use for that Paladin 8/8 Legendary Dragon is something I find incredibly shocking I just lost to a deck that used that and the make all your minions cost 1 card. I'm not sure how reliable of a deck it is but it kicked my Lockmill's rear end.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:People actually finding a use for that Paladin 8/8 Legendary Dragon is something I find incredibly shocking Being able to tutor it with the 2/3 murloc improves the consistency of getting it by turn 4 immensely so you can actually build your deck around it.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:People actually finding a use for that Paladin 8/8 Legendary Dragon is something I find incredibly shocking I actually would throw it into some of my weirder Paladin decks like Highlander or Dragons. It's typically really bad to play on turn 4, but on turn 10 it's pretty nice to have a 4 mana 8/8.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Being able to tutor it with the 2/3 murloc improves the consistency of getting it by turn 4 immensely so you can actually build your deck around it. Yeah that's whats going on. People use that and then either build a super greedy deck built around stuff like N'zoth/Corrupt, or a beefier version of Pure Paladin that runs double Crusader and Tirion/Yrel and stuff like that.
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I love the design of New Noz. It's a symmetrical effect that your opponent benefits from first, but you've built your deck getting to 10 mana super fast plus you get a 8/8 to offset your opponent's initiative. Also later game it's just a 4 mana 8/8. Glad it's finely seeing some consistent play.
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Fenarisk posted:Their best bet is to honestly completely redo the basic and at least half of the classic set, and switch up how dust works. The rewards track was a good start to freshen things up but there's good competition out now and overall waning interest for what is now an old rear end card game. While there might be good competition, that competition isn't apparently getting anywhere close to HS in numbers. https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/j4cpt3/what_do_you_think_is_responsible_for_the_decrease/ HS has 100M players and thousands streaming it at any given time. I'm sure Blizzard cares, but not enough to react directly.
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