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stab posted:Wasnt he also in ECW like a month before or something nuts? His nightly deal allowed him to work ECW, so I think he was on ECW's show the weekend before the taped Raw/live Nitro, yes.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Let's remember that a somewhat unknown Chris Jericho got a 300K/yr deal despite only being a known quantity in Japan. Citation: https://sites.google.com/site/chrisharrington/wcw_contracts#TOC-Chris-Jericho
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# ? Jan 13, 2021 23:34 |
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I think maybe the confusion arises from Jericho saying in his first book that he could have gotten $300k had he asked for it, and in hindsight regretted not doing so. At the time he thought he was being sensible, before he realised just how much money Bischoff was throwing around and that "WCW" and "sensible" didn't really go hand-in-hand. Speaking of Jericho books and on-topic, was it in one of them that he described HBK showing up backstage on the go--home Raw for WM17 in 2001 (the simulcast show)? He was wearing the Doink make-up and HBK sees him: HBK: "So you're Doink now? I don't like it, they never should've made you Doink." Jericho: "No, it's just for tonight, I'm ambushing Regal as part of an angle." HBK: "Hmm, I don't like it. They never should've made you Doink." Then he just wanders off and eventually passes out in Vince's office? Or is this just a funny untrue story I heard elsewhere?
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I think maybe the confusion arises from Jericho saying in his first book that he could have gotten $300k had he asked for it, and in hindsight regretted not doing so. At the time he thought he was being sensible, before he realised just how much money Bischoff was throwing around and that "WCW" and "sensible" didn't really go hand-in-hand. It's in chapter 10 of Undisputed: quote:The angle continued as I constantly outsmarted Regal with my immense babyface cunning. When a Legends Battle Royal was booked for WrestleMania, featuring such household names as Typhoon, Duke “the Dumpster” Droese, and Doink the Clown, Regal was doing an interview and was interrupted and attacked by Doink, who ended up being me in disguise.
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disaster pastor posted:It's in chapter 10 of Undisputed: Thanks! I was almost certain that it was from one of his books but I'm never sure of anything these days. Why was HBK even there?
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Why was HBK even there? Its in the chorus of Afroman's biggest hit
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Thanks! I was almost certain that it was from one of his books but I'm never sure of anything these days. They wanted to use him in an angle starting at WM17 (which was the first HHH/Taker Wrestlemania match) and thought he might be clean enough. He wasn't. Surprise! This was the semi-famous incident where it was HHH himself who went and told Vince, "Shawn's drugged up in your office, we can't use him," and then Michaels cut off contact with HHH for a year. I think Nash told him, once he was sober, "you wouldn't have your poo poo together if he hadn't done that, you need to apologize to him and work things out."
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 00:12 |
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Can this thread believe that WCW really sold for 2 million? Jesus. You'd think Bitchoff could have went ahead and bought it on his own for that price. About Rude, I'm too young to remember him. All I know is he and Bobby didn't get along. The rumor was Rick shot up viagra into his penis and it got infected. I won't continue the story in full but, yea, probably not true.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 00:43 |
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I'm glad Shawn isn't all hosed up anymore and can be involved in wrestling without him being a total mess now. I've heard those stories a bunch of times but they always make me sad.MassRafTer posted:I have no problem believing Shawn was mouthing off before the match and Undertaker acted like a tough guy, Shawn was so hosed up that it was the first time Undertaker could have beaten someone in a fight, he was probably very excited. I think Shawn was so hosed up on pain pills that he forgot it wasn't still Survivor Series and Undertaker said "NOW'S MY CHANCE."
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Without a TV slot, how much was WCW really worth? Like how many people sub to the network for archive stuff as opposed to the PPVS? Is it even half a million dollars worth?
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Royal Updog posted:Without a TV slot, how much was WCW really worth? Like how many people sub to the network for archive stuff as opposed to the PPVS? Is it even half a million dollars worth? If you sat on the tape library you'd be able to make more than that licencing the content of course this is with hindsight you wouldn't have had in 2001. I mean even back then a bunch of comp dvd's would maybe claw you back the money i remember all those ecw dvds that popped up when some company got a hold of their footage.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Speaking of Jericho books and on-topic, was it in one of them that he described HBK showing up backstage on the go--home Raw for WM17 in 2001 (the simulcast show)? He was wearing the Doink make-up and HBK sees him: The story I heard was that he was supposed to play a part in the finish of the Taker v. HHH match at WM17, but turned up at the venue so hosed up that the ending of the match had to be changed on the day.
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Royal Updog posted:Without a TV slot, how much was WCW really worth? Like how many people sub to the network for archive stuff as opposed to the PPVS? Is it even half a million dollars worth? Old stuff is literally the only draw of the Network for me. I know a lot of stuff is available elsewhere anyway but it's the convenience/consistent video quality/etc. It's a shame WWE is a wretched company that I don't want to support in any way. (Yes, the first time I abused a Network free trial, I used it to watch WCW 2000 shows. ) Vagabundo posted:The story I heard was that he was supposed to play a part in the finish of the Taker v. HHH match at WM17, but turned up at the venue so hosed up that the ending of the match had to be changed on the day. Kind of glad it ended up like it did tbh. Taker ended up getting busted open hardway (I think?) which isn't good, but the Last Ride-into-sledgehammer spot looked great and Taker looked like a beast by surviving it with no outside interference bollocks.
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Cheese Thief posted:Can this thread believe that WCW really sold for 2 million? Jesus. You'd think Bitchoff could have went ahead and bought it on his own for that price. It was a little more than that plus an advertising buy on Turner stations. Plus they weren't buying everything. They were buying the trademarks, the tape library and I think the rings? Maybe not even that. They also got the lower card talent on 30 day cycles that they cancelled and re-signed. Say Bischoff finds a TV deal and offers 10 million, then Vince counters with 11 million. Or 15. Or walks away and Bischoff now owns the trademarks to WCW for 10 million and now has to buy out all of the Turner contracts on top of that. Because even though it cost Vince money to not buy out some big star contracts by being cheap, he could afford to do that. He could buy out DDP and Booker and fill in the rest with midcarders and just make a lot of money instead of a shitload of money. Bischoff would need everyone. So he couldn't pay the bargain basement price Vince did. He'd have to pay enough where he'd buy out the contracts and all of the other stuff he'd need to run a company. Bischoff had a week to find a TV deal. He didn't, so Vince got the company at bargain basement prices. They'd waited months for Bischoff to be able to finalize the Fusient deal and that fell apart, they were sick of waiting and sick of losing half a million per week.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 01:29 |
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Two comments regarding Rick Rude: I wish him and Bret could have had a feud once Rude got good, Rude was a seriously great package once his ring skills caught up with his gimmick and look. I don't think Viagra was a thing when Rude and Heenan were together.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 01:31 |
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Rude was also one half of the NWA World Tag Team Champions when left for the WWF in 87.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 01:54 |
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Rude didn't just like Bret, he also disliked Shawn and having to work with him onscreen because they were just jammed together in the nascent DX for Rude to have something to do
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Rick Rude was the loving best and I remember stories that his favorite thing in the world was just going to his cabin to smoke weed and fish and all this Rick Rude talk and no pics? shameful for the WCW thread
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 03:49 |
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Rude also open hand slapped Ultimate Warrior into unconsciousness when he wouldn't stop being stiff in their matches. Making a former champion armwrestler mad is dumb, turns out
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DeathChicken posted:Rude also open hand slapped Ultimate Warrior into unconsciousness when he wouldn't stop being stiff in their matches. Making a former champion armwrestler mad is dumb, turns out Rude is an ex bouncer and apparently used to do that to guys who wouldn't settle down.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 04:59 |
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I started watching Nitro from when Scott Hall showed up earlier in the year and restarted recently, and I'm just after Halloween Havoc. Theres something that's bothering me though. Why is Konnan in the Dungeon of Doom? It's so incongruous. You have Jimmy Hart jumping up and down screaming and the faces of fear and Kevin Sullivan... and LA gangster Konnan?
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 05:47 |
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Mexicans were basically equivalent to a werewolf or a frankenstein to WCW management at that time
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 05:54 |
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Konnan was just kind of weird in general. I'm watching Nitros from the same time period. What happened to The Leprechaun who joined the Dungeon for one episode then never appeared again?
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Konnan was just kind of weird in general. wasn't that Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 06:08 |
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Piper also claimed in the closing moments of Halloween Havoc that he's the reason Hogan is bald
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 07:05 |
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Piper honestly was probably more full of shite than Hogan and Inoki at times
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This reminds me: Did Kathie Lee Gifford REALLY blame Rude for her miscarriage or was that just a weird misunderstanding of something she DID say?
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davidbix posted:This reminds me: Did Kathie Lee Gifford REALLY blame Rude for her miscarriage or was that just a weird misunderstanding of something she DID say? I never heard that, but here's an excerpt from her book on a bad website: https://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/516689-kathie-lee-gifford-rips-wrestlers-in-book I remember the clip, and i think the stairs at the back of the set are fake. I also recall seeing an interview with her in some magazine my mom got when I was a kid, where Kathie Lee complained about Rude again, but it was just an appearance on her list of pet peeves or something.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Piper honestly was probably more full of shite than Hogan and Inoki at times Piper holding tryouts for his team of loving losers is one of my favorite bad Nitro segments of all time. quote:It was billed going in as the "Nitro you would never forget," and after the 3/3 show from Atlanta's Omni, WCW would just as soon hope to God that slogan isn't the case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro60nB6TzRc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZOKYLcwtEM Tato fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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piper might have actually been schizophrenic
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 21:37 |
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Tenta deserved better than that, even six years or so after his prime
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Piper honestly was probably more full of shite than Hogan and Inoki at times yeah he owned
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Tato posted:Piper holding tryouts for his team of loving losers is one of my favorite bad Nitro segments of all time. God, it's even worse than I remembered. I have almost zero fond memories of Piper in WCW.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 22:44 |
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piper peaked in They Live
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 22:47 |
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Ganso Bomb posted:God, it's even worse than I remembered. I have almost zero fond memories of Piper in WCW. The Hillary Clinton Phantom Menace joke is maybe my fondest memory of WCW.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 22:47 |
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almost all of piper's promos were incoherent because he was mentally unwell
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 22:50 |
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I just watched the episode with the music video What's the deal with the music video
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 23:08 |
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The Piper's Family segment might be the worst promo in WCW history. At least a lot of the other terrible things were usually short.
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# ? Jan 14, 2021 23:09 |
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Also like that one ill-fated Survivor Series Smackdown team, the creative team instantly knew it was a failure and blew it up before the PPV. The final team ended up being Roddy Piper, Chris Benoit, Steve McMichael and Jeff Jarrett
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Royal Updog posted:almost all of piper's promos were incoherent because he was mentally unwell
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