C... posted:

Not a great deal for Daucus, as I see it.

Abstain: Gain 2-3 power
Nay: Lose 1 power, gain 1 coin.

Given the exchange rate has been 1-2 coins per 1 power..

Omobono posted:

[ooc]
What's the reason the king abdicates at maximum stability? We soft coup him/her out because we're doing a fantastic job already?

E: lore reason, the gameplay reason is self-evident

Omobono posted:

[ooc]
What's the reason the king abdicates at maximum stability? We soft coup him/her out because we're doing a fantastic job already?

E: lore reason, the gameplay reason is self-evident

Shogeton posted:

Councilmember and Treasurer

I can understand that House Daucus is considering passing, but could I interest you in getting involved in this discussion anyway. if both of us stay at the sidelines and consolidate power, we'll both recover less, and the other Houses can get away with investing but a little bit.

I offer 1 coin to House Daucus to offer at least 1 power to Nay

C... posted:

That feels similar to an argument that buying a winning lottery ticket is free profit. Do as you will, though!

Navigator
Regarding the "Restore Influence" proposition, my Family could not reach a consensus.

Blastinus posted:

Senator

Having considered the options thus far, while I suggested Nay because of purely business reasons, I realize that our kingdom's stability is teetering dangerously close to giving powerful factions an opportunity to depose his highness. Good as it may be to rescue our plummeting Wealth, it would place us in a precarious position where another net gain may "accidentally" tip his majesty over the castle walls one day.

Therefore, for the sake of maintaining balance, we must temporarily sacrifice Wealth and guide Stability back towards the center. My recommendation is, therefore, Aye. Though the ultimate decision lays in our Councilmember's hands, of course.

Shogeton posted:

As any merchant will tell you, supply and demand will influence the prices. And with a bid of bad luck, we end up with next session with no power to spend, and preciously little to gain.

As a counter counter offer, I'd repeat the 3 coins from house Cyfoeth for 2 nay vote from earlier. Which would still leave you with 4 power, still enough to get involved in politics, and ONLY if you actually WIN the vote, which is unlikely, considering there's several houses that seem intent on voting yes. You'd mostly be forcing them to commit more power, which would increase the pot to regain next dilemma.

Sighence posted:

TIG also said, at the time when Gambol would have been conferring, nobody's crossed the line yet wrt discussion, so what Gambol is likely doing should be ok.

Sighence posted:

I much prefer building coalitions where the partner doesn't want to leave us with zero power, so yes, let's try again next round.

Quackles posted:

Sure, but the ambiguity only hurts everyone in this case. I want to hear a determination - a ruling.

That Italian Guy posted:

Feel free to discuss bargaining strategies in the Sheets, although only internal discussion should be private - bargaining with other Houses should always happen itt since that's the way it works in the tabletop as well. That said, if you are at the same time taking a stance on your voting recommendation, you should make it public at the same time, if you haven't done so already (so you can't say "we should vote Aye" itt, then say "actually we should Pass and convince someone else to vote Aye through bargains" in the Sheet).

In your example, it's ok to say "this is a good deal" because that doesn't directly say "we should vote X"; and you could use the Sheet to explain why it's a good deal if someone else take it. You can be coy when talking about agreements/bargaining, as long as you don't use that to mask your voting public intention.

Update soon!

Vote Results posted:

Votes Aye, spends 1 Power(s), gains 0 Coin(s).


Votes Aye, spends 2 Power(s), gains 0 Coin(s).


Votes Pass and gather Power, gains 3 Power(s), gains 1 Coin(s).


Votes Pass and gather Power, gains 3 Power(s), gains 1 Coin(s).


Votes Aye, spends 3 Power(s), gains 0 Coin(s).

The Ayes have it!

Vote Outcome posted:

As mentioned before, from time to time there will be a (minor) change in resources that are not listed on the front of the card.

Envelope opened: 40

There is no mechanical benefit tied to signing this card, but I'm sure House Lethe is happy to see a servant of the Mother freed from her chains even if she is a foreigner and is talking about ancient myths. We have also added 3 more Dilemmas to the deck.

Resources and Stability change:

Morale was on white, so it actually got to move 2 spaces, somewhat balancing the -4 Wealth change.

Chronicle stickers:

And we have our first Chronicle Sticker. Influence represents not only our military prowess, but also our "political capital" so to speak; in this case, we have created some kind of diplomatic incident and not everyone is happy about it. This means that, as long as this Sticker is around, people will remember the unpopular decision, reducing House Lethe's starting Power during the following king(s)'s reign and changing the starting position on the tracker for Influence. As long as this is the most recent sticker affecting Influence at the start of the following king(s)'s reign, House Lethe will also receive a Negative Open Agenda - that will cost them Agenda Points at the end of the reign if Influence is the last or second to last Resource on the tracker.

To get rid of a Sticker, you will have to fill the row it currently sits in; at that point, the oldest sticker gets overwritten (and the decision leaves the collective memory); to avoid the Negative Agenda, you just need to have another more recent sticker present in the same row (people's attention tends to be focused on the latest gossip).

Just in case there was any doubt, these are all Legacy things - the Chronicle Sticker has no immediate mechanical effect until the start of the next king's reign.

History of the World posted:

At the present time, Ankist is one of the strongest and largest kingdoms in the world, and has enjoyed several decades of peace. But less than two centuries ago it was divided into many small kingdoms and raider tribes. Little is known about what happened before this age of fragmentation, but what we know for sure is that the lands of the current Kingdom of Ankist, as well as most of the other known lands, were ruled by several lost civilizations throughout the ages. The monumental vestiges they left behind are present in most of the cities of the kingdom.

The Salaan Union (Around 800 years Ago)
All that remains of this great civilization are a few vestiges on the coasts of both the Siar Ocean and the Cheile Sea, such as gigantic lighthouses in ruins or shipyards readapted throughout the centuries and still in use in some cities of the kingdom. Some say that in ancient times their rule spanned over the whole world.

The Sabbiyan League (Around 1100 years Ago)
Older ruins are present across the south of Ankist. Many market squares in the southern cities are built around these structures, and a few obelisks made from sculpted sandstone survived the test of time. The bas-relief scenes represented on these obelisks mainly depict scenes of trade, suggesting that commerce was the main strength of this civilization.

The First King (Around 1400 yeArs Ago)
Historians agree that all of the most ancient and timeworn monasteries of our kingdom (and beyond) were built by Ommad, the legendary First King, a historical yet almost mythical figure. His rule allegedly spanned over the whole world, and even though it ended hundreds of years before our kingdom was even born, our royal family claims to have a direct lineage from him. At the present time, he’s praised more for bringing the Cult of the Mother to our continent and converting the northern pagan tribes than for his considerable military successes. He was so illustrious, that every state claims to be his birthplace.

Mythical History
Some historians suspect there was another forgotten Empire that might have been the cradle of civilization. This belief comes from the many spurious copies of a legendary artifact that has been lost for centuries, called the Golden Map. We’ve been seeking this item for decades to no avail

History of the Kingdom of Ankist posted:

Storyline:

Storyline:

Dilemma4 posted:

Stakes:

Jossar posted:

House Gambol is very interested in rumors regarding the Sabbiyan League.

History of the World posted:

At the present time, Ankist is one of the strongest and largest kingdoms in the world, and has enjoyed several decades of peace. But less than two centuries ago it was divided into many small kingdoms and raider tribes. Little is known about what happened before this age of fragmentation, but what we know for sure is that the lands of the current Kingdom of Ankist, as well as most of the other known lands, were ruled by several lost civilizations throughout the ages. The monumental vestiges they left behind are present in most of the cities of the kingdom.

The Salaan Union (Around 800 years Ago)
All that remains of this great civilization are a few vestiges on the coasts of both the Siar Ocean and the Cheile Sea, such as gigantic lighthouses in ruins or shipyards readapted throughout the centuries and still in use in some cities of the kingdom. Some say that in ancient times their rule spanned over the whole world.

The Sabbiyan League (Around 1100 years Ago)
Older ruins are present across the south of Ankist. Many market squares in the southern cities are built around these structures, and a few obelisks made from sculpted sandstone survived the test of time. The bas-relief scenes represented on these obelisks mainly depict scenes of trade, suggesting that commerce was the main strength of this civilization.

The First King (Around 1400 yeArs Ago)
Historians agree that all of the most ancient and timeworn monasteries of our kingdom (and beyond) were built by Ommad, the legendary First King, a historical yet almost mythical figure. His rule allegedly spanned over the whole world, and even though it ended hundreds of years before our kingdom was even born, our royal family claims to have a direct lineage from him. At the present time, he’s praised more for bringing the Cult of the Mother to our continent and converting the northern pagan tribes than for his considerable military successes. He was so illustrious, that every state claims to be his birthplace.

Mythical History
Some historians suspect there was another forgotten Empire that might have been the cradle of civilization. This belief comes from the many spurious copies of a legendary artifact that has been lost for centuries, called the Golden Map. We’ve been seeking this item for decades to no avail

Jossar posted:

Senator

Ah well, I guess that's what I get for trying to bid conservatively. Nevertheless, I am at least glad that the majority of the Houses stood strong for the sake of Sera and proved their commitment to the cause of freedom. Additionally, House Gambol is very interested in rumors regarding the Sabbiyan League and shall be paying most close attention to these expeditions in the future.

My initial instinct is to vote to turn swords into scalpels, but that's mainly because i'm curious about what the positive knock on effects from doing so will be. I defer heavily to the opinions of the rest of my House on this one, though.

Omobono posted:

Not so edge-case: if wealth were to drop again (so at least by 3 considering its current momentum) would stability move by the full theoretical amount or the actual amount capped by the minimum of 1?

That Italian Guy posted:

Reing of King Harald V, Dilemma 3, Resolution

whitehelm posted:

Sorry I didn't notice this sooner, but it should be Reign, not Reing. This typo occurs in every Dilemma post.

quote:

eliasswift posted:

Senator
"I will admit... The idea of putting this to medical use does seem to be a positive. I just worry... We've made enemies now. If we pull this from the military, we're just giving them a chance to step on us... That being said, my fellow senator is right. House Daucus stands by the phrase, 'What We Do Echoes In Eternity.' This is something we do want, despite my hawkish nature..."

eliasswift posted:

Senator

As the news of the soured trade agreements and the lowered respect from the southern lands (along with military movements) reaches the senate floor, the tanned senator jumps to his feet and raises his hands in a nonverbal, "WHAT DID I SAY! I CALLED IT!" With his moment of predictive gloating out of the way, he sat back down and thought of this particular issue.

"I will admit... The idea of putting this to medical use does seem to be a positive. I just worry... We've made enemies now. If we pull this from the military, we're just giving them a chance to step on us... That being said, my fellow senator is right. House Daucus stands by the phrase, 'What We Do Echoes In Eternity.' This is something we do want, despite my hawkish nature..."

C... posted:

Sitting Councilmember

I agree, one moon's turn after snubbing a neighbor is a strange time to not bolster the military. Still, our armed forces are healthy. I am leaning towards a medical renaissance, for the reasons that have been previously stated, but understand that both outcomes have benefits.

Nea my friend, I would love to hear your thoughts.