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SlothfulCobra posted:I thought it was the Netherlands that broke off for religious reasons while the remaining area got passed around between empires that didn't really want it, but they also really didn't want France or the Netherlands to have it. The Netherlands left Spain/Austria for religious reasons while Belgium stayed loyal. Then after Napoléon, Belgium got added to the new United Kingdom of the Netherlands. Then Belgium left the UK of the Netherlands for religious reasons, among others. And took half of Luxembourg with them. Then eventually the other bit of Luxembourg was given away by the House of Oranje And as far as I know that’s why there’s the BeNeLux now rather than just Ne
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FreudianSlippers posted:In an absolut world I still think this is mostly good
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I know it was aready posted six months ago but this remains my favourite take on that idea.
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Ras Het posted:I still think this is mostly good Western England, Scotland and Wales would be a pretty chill place.
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I think that might be the pre-patch CK2 county borders of Ireland.steinrokkan posted:Yes we know about Finland Finland being part of Europe might be an accounting error.
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Europe did colonize Europe
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The Netherlands left Spain/Austria for religious reasons while Belgium stayed loyal. Then after Napoléon, Belgium got added to the new United Kingdom of the Netherlands. Then Belgium left the UK of the Netherlands for religious reasons, among others. And took half of Luxembourg with them. Then eventually the other bit of Luxembourg was given away by the House of Oranje Belgium didn't stay loyal, it's just that most protestants (and intellectuals, artists, etc) fled to the Netherlands after it became clear the fledgling Dutch Republic couldn't hold on to the territory and Antwerp got sacked. So yes, after most of the protestants left or were killed, this basically did leave "loyal" Catholic subjects to the Spanish crown, but heralded ~250 years of misery as cities like Ghent and Bruges, counted among the Middle Ages' most important medieval cities, shrunk into small provincial towns.
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah it's a mess. The Spanish Netherlands (Belgium) got transferred to Austria at some point, but they didn't really want it, and spent the next 80 years trying to trade it away for something they actually wanted. France, Britain and the Netherlands could never agree to this because none of them could tolerate it going to any of the others. Meanwhile the fortifications were actually garrisoned by the Dutch because the Austrians (and Spanish before them) saw it as a strategic liability, whereas the Dutch needed the space to defend against France. Garrisoned by Dutch troops whose wagen were paid by the Austrians. Pretty big dick move tbh
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Private Speech posted:Honestly some Italian nationalists might be okay with that one. Portugal, Finland, and Greece come out ahead, assuming those are the successor states.
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FreudianSlippers posted:In an absolut world West Britain Best Britain
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FreudianSlippers posted:In an absolut world Finally, Ukraine will have its Mediterranean port
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Tree Goat posted:sort of speaking of which, there was a 1787 viennese cookbook you mentioned like a million years itt as having recipes for "chocolate soup" and a "fast day" crab dish with like saffron and ginger, do you happen to know which one that was and/or have a link to any scans of it (auf Deutsch is fine)? That was Ignaz Gartler's Wienerisches bewährtes Kochbuch, you can find a scan of the aforementioned 1787 edition here
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System Metternich posted:That was Ignaz Gartler's Wienerisches bewährtes Kochbuch, you can find a scan of the aforementioned 1787 edition here thank you, perfect!
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my dad posted:Europe did colonize Europe Africa colonized the entire planet
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my dad posted:Europe did colonize Europe Yeah, that map conceptually makes a sort of sense for most of western Europe (extremely excepting Ireland) and Russia. But everything else to one degree or another uh.... yeah they were colonized in various senses of the term. poo poo that Cyprus is significantly less truncated by colonial borders than the real one.
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Is this a map? Well, close enough. Saudi crown prince announced his new mega project. A carbon-neutral city of 170 km (~ 105 miles) long called The Line. "There will be zero cars, zero streets and zero exhaust gasses." The idea is that citizens never have to walk more than 5 minutes to get everything they need, and are also always in walking distance of beautiful nature. The plan is to make The Line part of Neom, a planned megacity 33x the size of New York, which was halted after a journalist was murdered. Human right activists think The Line is a plan to get investors on board again. A lot of Saudi citizens see the plan as a megalomaniac project by the crown prince meant to distract the international press from the human rights situation in the country. Also, they wonder, what's the point of a carbon-neutral city if your country literally runs on crude oil profits. Building the city would also mean that 20000 people of a local tribe are forced to leave the area where they've been living for centuries. At least one member of the tribe has been killed by Saudi military when he protested against this.
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And here I thought the name "Spec Ops: The Line" was a very generic title. Turns out, it was predictive.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Is this a map? Well, close enough. I use this phrase more often than I'd like, but this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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It makes some degree of sense due to the fact that they intend for the city to have no streets and no cars, so you're essentially building your city within walking distance of stops on a single metro line.
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Wasn’t that the concept of the cyber world in Snow Crash? A city built along a single line, the equator of a virtual globe?
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as someone who has played my fair share of Cities: Skylines, i gotta wonder how any goods will reach these riadless folks.
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Muscle Tracer posted:as someone who has played my fair share of Cities: Skylines, i gotta wonder how any goods will reach these riadless folks. CO didn't post the video where explain that they will build the entire service infrastructure underground, so the Crown Prince and co. won't have to see the filthy peasants I'd cross post the post in the OSHA thread but I'm on mobile so here's a link instead https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3904642&pagenumber=619&perpage=40&userid=0#post511591467 Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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Deltasquid posted:It makes some degree of sense due to the fact that they intend for the city to have no streets and no cars, so you're essentially building your city within walking distance of stops on a single metro line. It would still make infinitely more sense to have a conventional structure of interconnected lines for your metro / rail to minimize the longest potential distance you have to travel to get from one place to another. A straight line is never going to be an efficient way to organize anything on a two dimensional plane.
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I may be mistaken but I believe humans had cities before we had motor vehicles. I feel like the dudes who had to walk everywhere would be a good reference if you want to make a city without cars or trains.
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It looks like an idea you would try out for fun in SimCity, and quickly abandon because it's dumb as poo poo. It's strangely alluring though.
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BonHair posted:It looks like an idea you would try out for fun in SimCity, and quickly abandon because it's dumb as poo poo. It's strangely alluring though. Hell, in some older SimCity-games, it may have worked! I still have fond memories of ripping out all streets and replacing them with train tracks in SimCity on SNES, just to lower air pollution and get enough people to move in to finally get the Mario-statue unlocked.
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Paris was redesigned so cavalry charges against revolutionaries would be easy to assemble and carry out. In this modern age, new weapons of suppression demand new thinking in urban design. With a a laser death ray mounted on a tower at the end of the city, a mere three times the height of the Burj Kalifa, the authorities will be able to strike down any rabble-rousers out on the street.
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If you really wanted a single line to cover everything why not make a loop?
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Maybe even a really big loop of some sort? Like an Ultraloop? Megaloop? Superloop? Something like that
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They should make it a loop but vertical and half underground.
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FreudianSlippers posted:In an absolut world would've been funnier to keep Ireland the same
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Cracker King posted:They should make it a loop but vertical and half underground. Throne room on top, makes for dramatic executions. Get some Czech architect on it. Obviously all the slave labour lives underground.
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Drain the swamp. e: I mean in response to the lily pad base thing, but it works for that, too.
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Septante, huitante, and nonante are one of Belgium’s objectively good contributions to this world
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Septante, huitante, and nonante are one of Belgium’s objectively good contributions to this world Yet they put mayo on them
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The one map where the Vatican looks good.
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