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MonsieurChoc posted:Bodies is pretty dehumanizing, I don't get why it took off.  it’s also central language in Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Between the World and Me which was v. good 
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It makes sense when you explain it, white people have seen black people as not human, just bodies without souls, and so on. But white people, afaik, don't articulate that by calling black people bodies. So just saying bodies doesn't make the listener think of dehumanization unless you've already told them that's what you're going for. And even then it won't produce the desired visceral response because unless the listener is immersed in that language they will have a slight delay as their brain switches from the standard use of bodies (a euphemism for corpses) to the more complex sociological meaning.
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Gripweed posted:It makes sense when you explain it, white people have seen black people as not human, just bodies without souls, and so on. But white people, afaik, don't articulate that by calling black people bodies. So just saying bodies doesn't make the listener think of dehumanization unless you've already told them that's what you're going for. And even then it won't produce the desired visceral response because unless the listener is immersed in that language they will have a slight delay as their brain switches from the standard use of bodies (a euphemism for corpses) to the more complex sociological meaning. I think reducing it to corpses also misses part of the point- it’s about reminding people that the physical cost of toil, the physical wear of labor, the physical effects of violence and neglect are borne by people with physical human bodies. It’s a means of trying to prompt empathy—and, yes, possibly do a bit of Brechtian alienation—to get people who might otherwise have a rote well-intentioned message go in through one ear and out the other to stop and think for a second. People can empathize with physical pain, they can think of their own aches and pains borne over a lifetime. They can think of how they have felt when injured, overworked, sick, and extrapolate it to experiences of exploitation and violence that may otherwise become too obfuscated by polite language and/or abstractified. It’s also worth mentioning that it’s a means of getting people to think a certain way without laying it out at a time/in a medium where graphic language and frank descriptions of brutality may not have always been acceptable. By throwing “bodies” into otherwise academic language, you get people thinking “what’s a bad thing/what’s the worst thing you could do to somebody’s body?” That allows you to then convey a more honest account of, say—racial violence, than you might otherwise get away with in a 1965 NYT opinion column.
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chupacabron posted:Admittedly I only read the headline but it looks like it to me: https://apnews.com/article/biden-inauguration-joe-biden-capitol-siege-politics-ap-top-news-ab877d14bc97682973add2acd514218e Right they are doing background checks but it's not to weed out democrats or Republicans or whatever
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What kind of person takes a look at everything from anime to zoology and settles on spoon carving as their thing
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cenotaph posted:They say she carved it herself... from a bigger spoon.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i was gonna dig up his old tweet but the comments have us covered lol Didn't they, as weird as this sounds, figure out that tweet was legit from a gay black fan of his and he somehow dumped in his Twitter vice retweeting it or whatever?
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Slippery posted:Didn't they, as weird as this sounds, figure out that tweet was legit from a gay black fan of his and he somehow dumped in his Twitter vice retweeting it or whatever?
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Slippery posted:Didn't they, as weird as this sounds, figure out that tweet was legit from a gay black fan of his and he somehow dumped in his Twitter vice retweeting it or whatever? no dude was trying to run a sockpuppet campaign of some sort quote:There were suspicions that Browning’s tweet sounded similar to the thoughts of another Twitter account, whose owner identified himself as a gay Black man and Trump fan.
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Nevemind. Beaten with a more thorough explanation.
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lmao for almost falling for that one Also wrt pardons, last year on this very forum the resounding take was that a pardon means you had a conviction. I guess goons read up on it and became legal scholars in that time?
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Ominous the David Lynch Presidency does not end with Trump!
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This is the second time today I've seen this Biden-Gaga photo and the first time it was captioned something like "You just have to come to terms with the fact your father and I are together."
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i loving loathe gaga i see right through that forced 'i am l'arteeeeeeest, so aloof' persona
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Lib and let die posted:i loving loathe gaga okay
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Ok Comboomer posted:okay
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Ok Comboomer posted:okay
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I like her music but she was collaborating with R. Kelly in loving 2013 and is definitely an awful piece of poo poo
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Lib and let die posted:i loving loathe gaga I like some of her songs. Don't really care about what she's doing outside of singing.
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smug jeebus posted:I like her music but she was collaborating with R. Kelly in loving 2013 and is definitely an awful piece of poo poo She did acknowledge she hosed up by doing that and had the song permanently removed from streaming services and all future physical releases, at least.
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Lib and let die posted:i loving loathe gaga hoo boy wait until you hear about Every Single Other Musician
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Paladinus posted:I like some of her songs. Don't really care about what she's doing outside of singing.
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Lady Gaga supporting an austerity-loving racist warmonger is more than enough of an indictment. She's willing to throw R Kelly under the bus but backs another kiddy-diddling rapist anyway? gently caress off.
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The only celebrity I ever had to give up on due to political disagreements was Andrew Lloyd Hitler.
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I liked that Rain On Me song she did with Ariana Grande, and because I was Literally A Child when her 'big songs' were out (you know, Just Dance, Poker Face, Alejandro, Bad Romance, Telephone, etc.) I have nostalgia for that because I remember when I was happy and it was when I was ignorant of politics
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gradenko_2000 posted:Lady Gaga supporting an austerity-loving racist warmonger is more than enough of an indictment. She's willing to throw R Kelly under the bus but backs another kiddy-diddling rapist anyway? gently caress off. Taint Runner, you forgot to switch accounts.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Taint Runner, you forgot to switch accounts. I’m glad that others are finally seeing the light.
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Breakfast All Day posted:thats a 23rd century uniform IDIOT
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