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The Bloop posted:Gates doesn't strike me as a sociopath Oh don't worry, he is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates#Management_style quote:Gates had primary responsibility for Microsoft's product strategy from the company's founding in 1975 until 2006. He gained a reputation for being distant from others; an industry executive complained in 1981 that "Gates is notorious for not being reachable by phone and for not returning phone calls."[66] An Atari executive recalled that he showed Gates a game and defeated him 35 of 37 times. When they met again a month later, Gates "won or tied every game. He had studied the game until he solved it. That is a competitor".[67] Imagine being such a lovely person you get an entire section on wikipedia describing how you're a lovely person
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Shame Boy posted:Oh don't worry, he is: that's only because they can't make a page for "almost every manager in the us"
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His biggest crime though:quote:Gates made a guest appearance as himself on the Emmy Award winning TV show The Big Bang Theory. Somewhere out there is an angry wikipedia editor who insists it always be referred to as Emmy Award Winning TV show The Big Bang Theory
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Zamujasa posted:that's only because they can't make a page for "almost every manager in the us" The game thing stands out more to me tbh, like he was so loving mad at losing that he angrily played a videogame for a solid month just so he could totally gently caress that dude up that he met once in a business meeting.
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Jan 19, 2021 07:24
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The Bloop posted:Gates doesn't strike me as a sociopath just a true believer in some dumb poo poo Gates is smart enough to know exactly what sort of wheel-spinning bullshit he’s doing with his foundation
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Jan 19, 2021 07:27
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Shame Boy posted:The game thing stands out more to me tbh, like he was so loving mad at losing that he angrily played a videogame for a solid month just so he could totally gently caress that dude up that he met once in a business meeting. Serious Michael Jordan energy right there.
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Shame Boy posted:The game thing stands out more to me tbh, like he was so loving mad at losing that he angrily played a videogame for a solid month just so he could totally gently caress that dude up that he met once in a business meeting. Well I mean, it says the guy showed Gates a game and then they played it. So Gates had never played it before, logically he's gonna lose. Maybe he just played the game some more after that? You don't have to play a game obsessively for a month to become competent at it, especially vs another executive
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Zzulu posted:Well I mean, it says the guy showed Gates a game and then they played it. So Gates had never played it before, logically he's gonna lose. Maybe he just played the game some more after that? You don't have to play a game obsessively for a month to become competent at it, especially vs another executive it's also an atari game from 1987, so he probably could've memorized it or figured out the small number of tricks to always win
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Jan 19, 2021 11:00
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I knew saying that would bring all you nerd motherfuckers out to be all um actually studying a videogame as a grown-rear end businessman to learn its tricks so you can beat another grown-rear end businessman is a totally cool and normal thing to do, especially in 1981, and besides it's not even that hard psh
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Jan 19, 2021 11:12
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there is no reason to assume that gates wants the best for everyone whereas the kochs don't neither party is acting in any sort of collective interest, the kochs just went the extra step and decided that capitalism chooses the best people as winners and those should rule *in general*. gates still obviously believes that about himself
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if they were good people they wouldn't own a business. it's really that simple. you have to he an exploitative scumbag at your heart to be the boss of a workplace, and especially to succeed at that even if its largely thanks to daddy's money and connections. lot of internalized liberalism here, as made clear by even entertaining the thought that private property isn't inherently immoral, and that there is a 'proper' way to exercise it
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Like yeah I agree, it's possible that someone else could have just super duper loved the videogame and played it himself a bunch for fun and then had a friendly game of pong or whatever with the other dude a month later, sure. Knowing Bill Gates and the fact that it made this specific impression on the other dude, that is absolutely not what went down.
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plenty of decent people are bourgeois or petit-bourgeois, it's got very little to do with individual moral character imo. you do have to be willing to cross some boundaries to make it to the highest levels, but at the several-million-dollar business level it's perfectly possible to actually be a perfectly decent human being the kochs are just class conscious and have formulated an ideology. gates is the billionaire equivalent of a guy who's in the union and does the work but doesn't read theory the bourgeoise are the enemy because their interest happen to be inimical to ours, and to human dignity in general, not because they're individually bad people
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it can be both, man.
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Shame Boy posted:Oh don't worry, he is: This just sounds like a guy who should never have been "elevated" to management, and also got an ego boost from being successful. Classic engineer who made it big. Also probably a nerd who got too much into winning vidjagames.
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If the gates foundation actually eradicates malaria it will have done far, far more for the collective good than the kochs ever even attempted gently caress gates, but let's not pretend all bad things are 100% bad or equally bad
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The Bloop posted:If the gates foundation actually eradicates malaria it will have done far, far more for the collective good than the kochs ever even attempted see, this is the trick the US government directly spent roughly a billion dollars on anti-malaria projects in FY 2020. much of this funding goes to malaria control work in poor countries with serious malaria issues. plus it also contributes considerable funding to organizations like the World Health Organization that themselves do a lot of anti-malaria work but if malaria were to be eradicated tomorrow, you would give the credit to Bill Gates, who prevented his money from going toward those projects so that he could instead drive his privatized market-centered model of fighting malaria via big direct subsidies to drug companies and pesticide companies. but he made sure to spend some of the money on advertising and making sure his name was all over the effort, so he's remembered as the guy who proved market-driven billionaire charity was the way to assure public health
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The Bloop posted:If the gates foundation actually eradicates malaria it will have done far, far more for the collective good than the kochs ever even attempted Ah, but perhaps you forget: Windows 95! But yeah, trying and failing to do good gets you a lower tier in hell than trying to make your life better by making others suffer. Still hell though.
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V. Illych L. posted:the bourgeoise are the enemy because their interest happen to be inimical to ours, and to human dignity in general, not because they're individually bad people see I think working against human dignity in general necessarily makes you a bad person
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indigi posted:see I think working against human dignity in general necessarily makes you a bad person then we're all bad people up here my point is just that we cannot base our analysis or condemnation on moral sentiment, because it's frail and not especially convincing unless you're already on board, and because we really need bad people on our side as well because there's an awful lot of them and our only real strength is in numbers
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Jan 19, 2021 15:54
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oh of course I’ll take their help or donations to the cause but they’re still bad people
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Main Paineframe posted:see, this is the trick No the gently caress I wouldn't You should know better than to put words in people's mouths Working towards a good doesn't mean you did it alone, or even really at all. I'm his case it just goes a tiny way towards mitigating the evil of stealing billions of dollars etc It's only "good" in that is better by comparison to worse things, but don't stop reading the worst interpretation possible into people's posts
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gates has his foundation make obsequious documentaries about what a genius he is. the foundation's education policies are awful and have contributed to the declining capacity and quality of public schools. his companies did so much awful underhanded poo poo that essentially instituted software taxes on every public institution and a large percentage of the population for decades while reducing their own tax exposure theres no point in even going through it. the foundation money is stolen public money. gently caress bill gates
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Not to mention his plan to implant microchips with the mark of the beast through vaccines. Not something a good guy would do, if you ask me.
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why do people seem to want to love celebrities. Gates isn’t even wacky I don’t get the appeal
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CharlestheHammer posted:why do people seem to want to love celebrities. Gates isn’t even wacky I don’t get the appeal It's part aspirational (people want to be that rich and famous), part marketing (he puts his face out there often enough that people develop a familiarity with him), and part positive media coverage (trusted institutions think he's a swell guy and I do too!).
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Larry Parrish posted:if they were good people they wouldn't own a business. it's really that simple. you have to he an exploitative scumbag at your heart to be the boss of a workplace, and especially to succeed at that even if its largely thanks to daddy's money and connections. lot of internalized liberalism here, as made clear by even entertaining the thought that private property isn't inherently immoral, and that there is a 'proper' way to exercise it
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Biplane posted:Literal Nazi Furry was banned for being a nazi a while back. late, but i was banned for being a furry, not a nazi. sorry.
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CharlestheHammer posted:why do people seem to want to love celebrities. Gates isn’t even wacky I don’t get the appeal Everybody's a dreamer and everybody's a star And everybody's in movies, it doesn't matter who you are There are starts in every city In every house and on every street And if you walk down Hollywood Boulevard Their names are written in concrete Don't step on Greta Garbo as you walk down the Boulevard She looks so weak and fragile that's why she tried to be so hard But they turned her into a princess And they sat her on a throne But she turned her back on stardom Because she wanted to be alone You can see all the stars as you walk down Hollywood Boulevard Some that you recognize, some that you've hardly even heard of People who worked and suffered and struggled for fame Some who succeeded and some who suffered in vain Rudolph Valentino looks very much alive And he looks up ladies dresses as they sadly pass him by Avoid stepping on Bela Lugosi 'Cause he's liable to turn and bite But stand close by Bette Davis Because hers was such a lonely life If you covered him with garbage George Sanders would still have style And if you stamped on Mickey Rooney He would still turn round and smile But please don't tread on dearest Marilyn Cause she's not very tough She should have been made of iron or steel But she was only made of flesh and blood You can see all the stars as you walk down Hollywood Boulevard Some that you recognize, some that you've hardly even heard of People who worked and suffered and struggled for fame Some who succeeded and some who suffered in vain Everybody's a dreamer and everybody's a star And everybody's in show biz, it doesn't matter who you are And those who are successful Be always on your guard Success walks hand in hand with failure Along Hollywood Boulevard I wish my life was non-stop Hollywood movie show A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes Because celluloid heroes never feel any pain And celluloid heroes never really die You can see all the stars as you walk along... You can see all the stars as you walk down Hollywood Boulevard Some that you recognize, some that you've hardly even heard of People who worked and suffered and struggled for fame Some who succeeded and some who suffered in vain La la la la.... Oh, celluloid heroes never feel any pain Oh, celluloid heroes never really die I wish my life was non-stop Hollywood movie show A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes Because celluloid heroes never feel any pain And celluloid heroes never really die
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Literal Nazi Furry posted:late, but i was banned for being a furry, not a nazi. sorry. My bad.
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You want that latte woke or not woke
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CharlestheHammer posted:why do people seem to want to love celebrities. Gates isn’t even wacky I don’t get the appeal He jumped over a chair that one time
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Literal Nazi Furry posted:late, but i was banned for being a furry, not a nazi. sorry. glad to see that you are back
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https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1351716263823867904
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I'm going to increase access to crying, traumatized doctors working with no equipment in a parking lot in the middle of winter. The Oldest Man for president.
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My old hospital closed this time last year because the would-be buyer reneged at the last minute because they lied about how much money they actually had and were trying to tank us so they could get a better price. It was used for COVID surge briefly, and then in the summer got converted to a film set, which it still is even though second wave is very loving here  The most efficient way to allocate resources here people. Also the surge hospital got at least one of the people I used to work with killed and I hear only treated a couple dozen patients. It would be wild if that place killed more people than it saved in the long run. The billionaire doctor owner is of course, unphased and unrepentant.
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