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Should we revisit how important silencers are now that we're a bit into the wipe and lots of people have regular access to them now? They make your muzzle report completely silent to anyone beyond something arbitrary like 100 meters. Other than Factory, I run a can on every gun I bring in as a PMC now. With some of the recent muzzle device changes, they've certainly made some non-silencer compensators a lot more appealing with how much more they reduce recoil over the cans (and with their less severe ergo penalties). Might try using some of them, but being silenced just seems like such a critical advantage it's hard to ditch suppressors.
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It's somewhat absurd to me that some suppressors give better recoil reduction than the huge fuckoff muzzle breaks.
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Jan 21, 2021 21:12
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I dont feel bad about sinking half my liquid cash into building the solar panels with how out of control fuel pries are rn.
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Jan 21, 2021 21:58
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sum posted:Most of the quests in the game would just turn into "earn money" in that case. I think the real problem is that the most quests are arbitrary hoops you have to jump through that don't enrich the game play. They badly need to overhaul them. The reason it was so much better before than now is that there was more than one thing to do. You could go find the item yourself if you wanted, or you could do what you liked to get money to buy it, or you could find the item yourself and sell it to someone else and use the money to do what you liked. Now its 'wait for the mobile phone game timer to finish to get the item' and 'you died so the item has lost its magic enchantment and your progress is reset' and its repugnant. Vandalizing the quests was one of the first big victories for the reddophile and the streamer in tarkov.
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Jan 21, 2021 21:58
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the easiest way ive found to complete the quests is to not die. perhaps you could try that.
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Jan 21, 2021 22:07
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also sitting high on my horse as the btc farm rushers are getting owned while the humble quester is sitting on a big stack of cash with no worries in sight. good game.
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Jan 21, 2021 22:07
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Who the gently caress was saying they can't get 6 PMC kills in the office area on factory? If you cant find PMCs to kill on factory just uninstall because you are NOT going to like the rest of the game lmao
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Jan 21, 2021 22:21
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Your average factory raid is everyone killing each other in the glass hallway spawn and then nobody goes up to the office or the only office goers are altyn wearing thick boys.
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Jan 21, 2021 22:41
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Your average factory raid is everyone killing each other in the glass hallway spawn and then nobody goes up to the office or the only office goers are altyn wearing thick boys. Fresh wipe factory runs are so much fun for the reason you mentioned above. Everyone just using what they can in a little rear end map.
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Jan 21, 2021 22:43
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I enjoy that the butcoin farm is so expensive because it’s let me make a killing on CPU fans and PSUs. Also tearing apart DVD players for circuit boards.
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Jan 21, 2021 22:44
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Bussamove posted:I enjoy that the butcoin farm is so expensive because it’s let me make a killing on CPU fans and PSUs. Also tearing apart DVD players for circuit boards. yeah fan prices are ridiculous atm and the turnover is very quick, I literally just sold a pile sitting in my scav box for 65k each e: I see people low balling themselves by throwing the fans up for like 18k and it's just... why would you shortchange yourself like that? even if you need a quick turn you can put them up for twice that and the sub <40k inventory will get cleared in like 10 minutes at most LGD fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jan 21, 2021 |
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Jan 21, 2021 22:57
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Cage Kicker posted:Who the gently caress was saying they can't get 6 PMC kills in the office area on factory? If you cant find PMCs to kill on factory just uninstall because you are NOT going to like the rest of the game lmao How strange it is that I like the game but absolutely hate that bullshit quest. Well guess I'll uninstall. Thanks for letting me know that I won't like the game, I was clearly wrong having sunk 400 hours into it and liking it except for several stupid loving quests.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:00
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LGD posted:yeah fan prices are ridiculous atm and the turnover is very quick, I literally just sold a pile sitting in my scav box for 65k each people in games never understand like, extremely basic pricing stuff, thinking that knocking down a few thousand rather than a single rouble lower will actually make theirs sell faster when the times that might be the case are extremely rare, on stuff like extremely low volume items that are legitimately overpriced for their demand. anything thats going to sell youre just throwing cash away if you dont undercut t he smallest amount possible.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:02
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if u want to get the office kills buy an altyn and a slick or whatever, load out whatever gun you like that you can put at extremely low recoil and load with a big mag of high pen ammo, and buy some vogs. youll just shred everyone.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:03
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u will legit throw away more roubles in mid gear loadouts you lose because you cannot tank any damage at all than going in full tank and slamming a propital and mowing everyone down alternatively sit in t he stairwells with a five seven, naked w a rig.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:04
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Stux posted:if u want to get the office kills buy an altyn and a slick or whatever, load out whatever gun you like that you can put at extremely low recoil and load with a big mag of high pen ammo, and buy some vogs. youll just shred everyone. That's cool and all but no matter how you go about doing it, it's a lovely and stupid quest and I will continue to hate it no matter what anyone says about it because I find no aspect of that quest fun, I find nothing about Factory fun to begin with, and that quest forces me to play in a way I don't enjoy on a map I don't enjoy. I'm perfectly happy on every map in Tarkov except Labs and Factory. Those two can gently caress right off.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:12
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The outrage on Reddit after about 3,000 people (or more) bought Jaegers fuel at the increased price has made my day. Just post after post about idiots who spammed buy when it was restocked and spent 1.2mil
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ShowTime posted:The outrage on Reddit after about 3,000 people (or more) bought Jaegers fuel at the increased price has made my day. Just post after post about idiots who spammed buy when it was restocked and spent 1.2mil I am one of those idiots and now this is gonna be me and Nikita https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms They set the price back to near 100k which means somebody just fatfingered an extra 1 in there which is so fuckin' peak BSG 
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Jan 21, 2021 23:19
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FileNotFound posted:That's cool and all but no matter how you go about doing it, it's a lovely and stupid quest and I will continue to hate it no matter what anyone says about it because I find no aspect of that quest fun, I find nothing about Factory fun to begin with, and that quest forces me to play in a way I don't enjoy on a map I don't enjoy. youll never get more comfortable with them if you dont play them
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Jan 21, 2021 23:26
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Inspector_666 posted:I am one of those idiots and now this is gonna be me and Nikita lol same didn't even check b/c of course it would be lower and I wanted to slam it on cooldown to make sure I got my share that's tarkov 
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Jan 21, 2021 23:31
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FileNotFound posted:I don't see the cost of fuel going up to the point that L1 farm becomes unprofitable. You'd have to have fuel tanks at ~800k each. Stux posted:youll never get more comfortable with them if you dont play them I don't want to be comfortable on them, it's not a thing I'm interested in. They are not maps that I like and not a playstyle I like and no matter how much I may stretch out my butthole by continuing to play those maps won't change the fact that I'm not into it. So instead I'd prefer to play maps I enjoy that allow for playing the game as anything besides a hyper aggressive chad. Continuing to get buttfucked by factory won't make me develop a passion for getting gangbanged by sweaty gearlords. I don't understand why any part of this seems to confuse people.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:36
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The Tarkov is extremely strong today
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youre going to have to do the quests theree very wipe anyway, its better to get comfortable with the map so you at least dont dread and hate it instead of having to go through this thing every wipe where you despise part of the game. just how ive approached maps i didnt like and now enjoy anyway.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:41
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This Jaeger fuel thing is why you don’t just mash numbers together in your UI without any sort if indicator. Also why you triple-check a price.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:48
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Bussamove posted:This Jaeger fuel thing is why you don’t just mash numbers together in your UI without any sort if indicator. Also why you triple-check a price. The big moral is buy everything through the Flea interface and never the Vendor page.
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Jan 21, 2021 23:51
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reeeee nikita how dare you make me CQB people in gun game, i just want to stuff treasure in my butthole
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Jan 22, 2021 00:06
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my honest advice is to dip in and out of quests as you feel like. slamming your head against a quest repeatedly isnt fun, so go gently caress around on a map you like, try something new, squad up with some friends, whatever. I'm having a good time running stupid shotgun builds on woods, and solid snaking my way up to sniper spots to kill people. mosin people aren't super aware! or like, take a break from the game and play something else. you don't want to become one of the bitter weirdos who complains in game threads constantly.
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yeah i was slamming my head against three woods quests today and then i was like, thats it, im going to interchange. did an entire quest in one raid, extracted with tons of loot, good decision all round
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Jan 22, 2021 00:18
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I mean, I just quit playing and have never had more fun.
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tying the real life price of bitcoin to a coin in game is kinda cool but if it results in loving up the economy maybe its time to fork and make tarkov coin
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FileNotFound posted:Thanks to Jeager, that didn't age well. So you want only quests that happen on the maps you like? Like, what’d the improvement here you suggest? No quests? Quests on your favorite maps only?
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I think most of Tarkov's tedious poo poo stems from the insane emphasis on linear advancement instead of opportunities for specialization. A static quest tree with static rewards is boring, static vendor tiers that everyone eventually gets are boring, everyone ending up with the same top-tier hideout is boring. Find a way to make those things more dynamic/choice-driven and the metagame gets a lot more interesting. Likewise the linear advancement in skills sucks. I'd much prefer a system where like, every skill just has three levels, with level 2 giving a bonus to something and level 3 giving a better bonus. And everyone starts with two points they stick wherever they want but it takes X hours to redistribute. And leveling your man progressively gives you like 5 more points to distribute. Now a new player can choose to make their endurance or recoil control as good as a player who has leveled a bunch but that comes at a higher opportunity cost to them until they also level up. And check it out, now the skill system makes you consider and plan around your playstyle or current raiding objectives rather than being this artificial grind thing with linear bonuses. Thanks for reading.
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I personally think the game is enriched by say throwing armor on the floor before popping a scav or wearing m1 rigs. So emergent
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Vahakyla posted:So you want only quests that happen on the maps you like? Like, what’d the improvement here you suggest? No quests? Quests on your favorite maps only? So like - I dunno man - like maybe crazy things like - just kills in factory as opposed to THIS ONE SPOT IN FACTORY would make it less annoying when you kill 2 dudes who rushed your spawn but don't count? How loving wild of an idea is that?! I just can't wrap my head around why someone may find a quest that requires kills on a specific spot annoying when other quest in the game lets you get kills on the entire map.... I'm totally unreasonable in not liking THAT quest or the other tedious quests that require me to get kills under irritating conditions. I should totally uninstall the game because I find some of the quests annoying because it's absurd that I would think that they could be improved.....
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agreed. aklso why is it 100 meters for the shooter born in heaven headshots. what if i get a 50m headshot bcos i saw a guy 60 seconds into the raid. i tshould be 50m instead. fruther more why does it have to be akm kills, so now just because i killed someone with a n m4 it doesnt count??  maybe make it less tedious huh?
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mayhaps good sir instead of killing a scav i could get a quest for pressing w?? would be far less tedious to mine sensibilities. a doff of the cap to you goon sir e 
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Your entire justification for changing certain quests is "its annoying and I don't like it" are you surprised people don't find that valid or worthy? When did people go from "I need to get good at doing this annoying quest" to "the game is broken and needs to be fixed because I find advancement difficult"
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Cage Kicker posted:When did people go from "I need to get good at doing this annoying quest" to "the game is broken and needs to be fixed because I find advancement difficult" Probably when people came up with tedious quests and idiots mistook tedium for difficulty and their ability for being able to put up with tedium and banging their head on it till they get through it as "getting good".
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FileNotFound posted:Probably when people came up with tedious quests and idiots mistook tedium for difficulty and their ability for being able to put up with tedium and banging their head on it till they get through it as "getting good". This I mean legitimately out of pure sincerity: you don't actually have to do the quests. They can be ignored and you can still basically get most of the bitcoin rigs and such. If you feel the quests aren't that fun, don't do them. Reality is, the game's quest aren't all that great. They are pretty obtuse and needless busy work a lot of the time. Some people find charm in it, and some just do them to get them over with. I don't know which one I am, I don't mind them most of the time. They give some meaning to it all, basically. But you just don't offer any good feedback. That's the point, too. The quests shouldn't be clicking "I win", either, and some of the devs think they genuinely struggle to make any good or meaningful quests, so they don't bother.
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Vahakyla posted:This I mean legitimately out of pure sincerity: you don't actually have to do the quests. They can be ignored and you can still basically get most of the bitcoin rigs and such. If you feel the quests aren't that fun, don't do them. Reality is, the game's quest aren't all that great. They are pretty obtuse and needless busy work a lot of the time. Some people find charm in it, and some just do them to get them over with. I don't know which one I am, I don't mind them most of the time. They give some meaning to it all, basically. Dude - I literally offered feedback several times that it's THAT SPOT requirement that is my issue. What else do you want? Why do you keep harping about ALL quests when I specifically have issues with a very small subset and enjoy the vast majority of them. I never asked for "I Win" quest anywhere...
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