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lol 2010: Lib Dem - What can I say, I got caught up in Cleggmania and I was a dumbass. But at the same time New Labour was nakedly terrible and I wasn't ever going to vote for them. (LOSS) 2011: I think I voted for AV? I can't even remember. Says a lot. (LOSS) 2014: Yes in Scottish independence ref (LOSS) 2015: Green - Miliband didn't exactly inspire much enthusiasm and the indyref made me want to go for a pro-indy party, Greens had a relatively strong showing in the constituency (and ScotGreens are way better than their English counterparts) - (LOSS) 2017: Green - Same constituency as before. Genuinely torn because I loved Corbs but the constituency was an SNP/Lab marginal so it didn't seem much of a big deal who won - SNP would always have held up a Labour govt if it was possible. Greens weren't polling terribly and Patrick Harvie was their candidate, who would absolutely have been the best MP of the lot. Kind of regret not going Labour, but eh, the Tories/Libs were never going to win (and didn't). - (STILL LOSS) 2019: Labour - gently caress it, Corbyn needed all the help he could get. Labour or bust. (BUST) Solid 0% record so far! Honestly, FPTP is such bullshit. 2014-2019 I was in the same constituency and it's so difficult to get enthused half the time especially when the two leading parties don't have much between them (in my case Labour/SNP, particularly when Labour is led by the right-wingers). I feel so bad for my parents in Tyneside who live in one of the single safest Labour seats in the country where the red team gets 50-70% of the votes consistently. They more or less don't have a vote in our 'democracy'. I sorely wish I lived in a Labour/Tory marginal, I think it would push me to get way more involved in campaigning than I am currently. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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HopperUK posted:what the gently caress there's no Ricicles any more? this loving world I was just reading the shocking truth about Ricicles earlier... https://www.cerealkillercafe.co.uk/blog-what-really-happened-to-ricicles/
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TACD posted:Ministers could pay £500 to everyone with Covid in England quote:The proposed change is thought necessary because government polling found only 17% of people with symptoms are coming forward to get a test, owing to fears that a positive result could stop people from working. I mean sure but why not just guarantee their income for 10 days instead you idiots, you morons
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https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1352404543380795392?s=20 Lol. You may at first think "Ah he's cherry-picked those" but if you look, literally every single person on the call with Keith looks massively unimpressed.
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WhatEvil posted:https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1352404543380795392?s=20 All white on the knight
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ThomasPaine posted:Honestly, FPTP is such bullshit. 2014-2019 I was in the same constituency and it's so difficult to get enthused half the time especially when the two leading parties don't have much between them (in my case Labour/SNP, particularly when Labour is led by the right-wingers). I feel so bad for my parents in Tyneside who live in one of the single safest Labour seats in the country where the red team gets 50-70% of the votes consistently. They more or less don't have a vote in our 'democracy'. I sorely wish I lived in a Labour/Tory marginal, I think it would push me to get way more involved in campaigning than I am currently. i remember being shocked when i first learnt that the uk used FPTP in 2015. my friend told me labour didn't want preferential voting because they thought they'd do better with FPTP in a referendum four years before millibrand got owned. also reminded me of in 2016 when someone on these forums told me that black people didn't want preferential voting because they could extract greater concessions from a democratic party that was dependent on them due to FPTP about a month before TRUMP. i didn't have the heart to throw it in his face ...then again, despite having preferential voting we have a white nationalist christian fundamentalist as our PM so i guess it's me that's owned.
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WhatEvil posted:https://twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1352404543380795392?s=20 Keith looks very impressed with himself.
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DickEmery posted:I was just reading the shocking truth about Ricicles earlier... quote:the only UK cereal to include a crunchy freeze-dried marshmallow Anyway reminder that the correct way to reduce sugar is to replace it with cyclamate and that's something the US got very wrong. crepeface posted:...then again, despite having preferential voting we have a white nationalist christian fundamentalist as our PM so i guess it's me that's owned.
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crispix posted:That's surprising. I'm from Ards DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN MILLISLE HAD ALL THEM AMUSEMENTS AND GOOD ARCADES AND IT WAS THE BEST PLACE FOR WHEN YOUR GRANNY TOOK YOU FOR A DAY OUT AT THE SEASIDE
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DickEmery posted:I was just reading the shocking truth about Ricicles earlier... We had a Noddy ricicles record and so would say 'Noddy, ring your bell!' at times of excitement. We all like ricicles, they're twicicles as nicicles!
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WhatEvil posted:Kelloggs Start were absolute top tier cereal. They were marketed as a healthy cereal 'cause they were made with whole grain but they were coated in a sugary shell, but not so thick etc. as to make them too sickly sweet. I remember. You're not alone. My wife's parents used to buy it. It was my Christmas cereal. Your description is perfect. Flavour was like wholegrain bread with sweet jam. Nothing else stacks up. Also, to the "£500 to anyone who tests positive", hmm where have I heard of something like that before...gosh I hope there isn't a loving NAMED NEGATIVE EFFECT about why this is a dreadful idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect?wprov=sfla1
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Oh dear me posted:We had a Noddy ricicles record and so would say 'Noddy, ring your bell!' at times of excitement. I feel like I am having a stroke reading this.
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Mourning Due posted:Also, to the "£500 to anyone who tests positive", hmm where have I heard of something like that before...gosh I hope there isn't a loving NAMED NEGATIVE EFFECT about why this is a dreadful idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect?wprov=sfla1 It hasn't even occurred to the government to just give people money like Trump's America did - they can't help but make any sort of payment conditional and degrading in some way. Even if doing so makes everything worse.
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stev posted:It hasn't even occurred to the government to just give people money like Trump's America did - they can't help but make any sort of payment conditional and degrading in some way. Even if doing so makes everything worse. That, and it accelerates the murderous push for herd immunity, which has never not been policy for a single minute since the pandemic started
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WhatEvil posted:Kelloggs Start were absolute top tier cereal. They were marketed as a healthy cereal 'cause they were made with whole grain but they were coated in a sugary shell, but not so thick etc. as to make them too sickly sweet. They were my cereal of choice as a young 'un when on holiday, which was the only time my parents would let me near the more obviously sweetened cereal varieties. Disagree on the not so thick as to make them too sickly: I remember 'em being pretty heavily coated. Still delicious though.
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Ms Adequate posted:DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN MILLISLE HAD ALL THEM AMUSEMENTS AND GOOD ARCADES AND IT WAS THE BEST PLACE FOR WHEN YOUR GRANNY TOOK YOU FOR A DAY OUT AT THE SEASIDE YEAH THERE WAS THE PLACE WITH THE ICE CREAM IT WAS GOOD WHY WE SHOUTING LOL
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Guavanaut posted:There's no voting system that'll correct for a lovely media or a lovely electorate. lol yeah, murdoch owns 2/3rds of our media
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Jan 22, 2021 10:20
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NI brexit anecdote: I went to Tesco yesterday evening and there was gently caress all fruit 
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The issue with the £500 for those with positive tests isn't that people are going to be rushing around to get that sweet sweet cash but that it won't prevent people who are ill but waiting for their test results back to still be under financial pressure to go to work. It's a lovely individual attempt to solve the problem when a simple and effective method - increase sick pay and sick pay protections - exists but the government doesn't want to do it.
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Yeah the motivation is presumably that they want to get people spending stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives... and get online and shop, shop, shop!!!!! 
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Shortly before the Patrician came to power there was a terrible plague of rats. The city council countered it by offering twenty pence for every rat tail. This did, for a week or two, reduce the number of rats—and then people were suddenly queueing up with tails, the city treasury was being drained, and no one seemed to be doing much work. And there still seemed to be a lot of rats around. Lord Vetinari had listened carefully while the problem was explained, and had solved the thing with one memorable phrase which said a lot about him, about the folly of bounty offers, and about the natural instinct of Ankh-Morporkians in any situation involving money: “Tax the rat farms.”
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namesake posted:The issue with the £500 for those with positive tests isn't that people are going to be rushing around to get that sweet sweet cash but that it won't prevent people who are ill but waiting for their test results back to still be under financial pressure to go to work. You're forgetting the best bit: it's a handout to the middle classes who get £500 and continue to work from home like they were doing anyway
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£500 for positive tests is stupid. Surely the rational market approach is for the government to offer to buy negative tests, thereby reducing the supply of positive tests? 
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What is stopping me from getting as many positive tests as possible and then cashing them all in for thousands of pounds?
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OwlFancier posted:What is stopping me from getting as many positive tests as possible and then cashing them all in for thousands of pounds? You might die
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WhatEvil posted:Kelloggs Start His name is Keith Armrest you bully.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:You might die Die rich!
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15 person house parties are now an exciting gamble. Will you catch the cashvirus and win 500 smackeroos, or will the police bust down the door and fine you 800? If both happen you only net a loss of £300!
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What we need to do is transfer the £800 to the person that files the report, so you can have both gain £500/£500, win/lose £800/-£300 or -£300/£800, or both get nothing. This will form a productive society and not a bunch of cold war math psychos.
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Guavanaut posted:What we need to do is transfer the £800 to the person that files the report, so you can have both gain £500/£500, win/lose £800/-£300 or -£300/£800, or both get nothing. Ah, the Priti dilemma
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Guavanaut posted:What we need to do is transfer the £800 to the person that files the report, so you can have both gain £500/£500, win/lose £800/-£300 or -£300/£800, or both get nothing. Realists will simply dob everyone else in to the cops for immunity, thereby gaining £500 cold hard cash  but lose all their friends which is a double win because Realists do not have any real friends
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OwlFancier posted:What is stopping me from getting as many positive tests as possible and then cashing them all in for thousands of pounds? If somebody tests positive, they suddenly have an incentive to 1) get as many tests as possible under different names to try to claim the money, and 2) take tests on behalf of other people for a cut of the profits. Will be interesting to see if positive tests shoot up while hospitalisations / deaths stay the same. Then presumably the government will end the scheme and use it as an example of “why handouts don’t work”
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I can see a bunch of people who think this is 'just the flu' rushing out to catch it to get their £500. That was my first thought when I saw the headline. No perverse incentives here, nosirree
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peanut- posted:A couple of weeks of not smelling anything for the price of a PS5? I'm out there licking door handles. If only it was possible to get a ps5 anywhere!
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