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teagone posted:Blade doesn't feel like a 90s movie to me. And obviously not to me either. I am curious what exactly is making it feel 90s to CP. edit: new page, so I added a quoted post Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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I could understand saying Blade feels like a late 90s movie in part due to the music and costume design. If it had been made 2 years later, it might have had a scene or two ripping off bullet time.
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Jan 23, 2021 01:41
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Anything involving Wesley Snipes is probably going to feel like a 90s movie to me
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Jan 23, 2021 01:44
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Blade holds up really well even with the lovely CGI and industrial metal design typical to films in the late 90s trying to be "with the kids". The world-building and character development are stronger than I though on a rewatch last year. Wesley Snipes also just owns the role and is going to be a high bar to climb.
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Jan 23, 2021 03:49
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Everyone posted:On the one hand I kind of get/agree with the panel. Cap holds up an abstract ideal of America but has little to no concept of or connection to the actual human people that are Americans. And one reason we know that is that he helped trash a city where they live and work. such that some of them can't do those things any more (because they're dead or out of a job because their workplace got blown to hell.) A non lovely example of the same scene might ask him how much insulin costs, or when was the last time he asked for a raise, or how much an average car payment is. Does he rent? If you wanted to establish that he's out of touch, tie it to real concerns and anxieties americans have or something.
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Jan 23, 2021 04:02
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Spacebump posted:I could understand saying Blade feels like a late 90s movie in part due to the music and costume design. If it had been made 2 years later, it might have had a scene or two ripping off bullet time. It has bullet time.
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Jan 23, 2021 04:45
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GoldStandardConure posted:It has bullet time. It's been a while since I've seen it but I find that hard to believe since it came out before the Matrix. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_time However, it looks the concept was invented in the 1800s and the Matrix just popularized it and mixed three things together/popularized the phrase. Blade even gets mentioned. "It is well-established for feature films' action scenes to be depicted using slow-motion footage, for example the gunfights in The Wild Bunch (directed by Sam Peckinpah) and the heroic bloodshed films of John Woo. Subsequently, the 1998 film Blade featured a scene that used computer generated bullets and slow-motion footage to illustrate characters' superhuman bullet-dodging reflexes. The 1999 film The Matrix combined these elements (gunfight action scenes, superhuman bullet-dodging, and time-slice effects), popularizing both the effect and the term "bullet-time"." Guess I learned something new today. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 05:02
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Blade feels like a 90s movie more because of the trappings and tropes in it than anything else. Downtown/inner city New York didn't look like that anymore by 1998, the Giuliani-zation of the city was well underway by then. Justin Godscock posted:Blade holds up really well even with the lovely CGI and industrial metal design typical to films in the late 90s trying to be "with the kids". The world-building and character development are stronger than I though on a rewatch last year. Wesley Snipes also just owns the role and is going to be a high bar to climb. True but if you were going put together a short list of people who at least have the acting ability to hold their own and maybe even surpass Snipes then Mahershala Ali would be near the top. The question is can Marvel/Disney get him enough martial arts training and "workout regimen" to make the fights look good enough.
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Jan 23, 2021 05:10
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If not, they probably have enough money to hire a stunt double.
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Jan 23, 2021 05:13
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Is there even a single movie, comic book or not, from the 90's that looks like it could've been filmed today? I think you can get close, but film techniques, actor's age and sometimes the props involved are all giveaways to their real age.
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Jan 23, 2021 07:12
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If we don't get J. Jonah Jameson help stir up anti mutant sentiment and then accuse Spider-Man of being a mutant, I'll be real disappointed.
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Jan 23, 2021 07:38
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There was somebody on this forum who something to the effect of "Blade is if a 70s movie crashed headfirst into a 90s movie, skipping the 80s" which I think is about right.
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Jan 23, 2021 08:40
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La Magra The Blood God as originally described feels very 80s to me, but they they decided against having Blade fight a giant pile of red jello
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Jan 23, 2021 09:00
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is there even a single movie, comic book or not, from the 90's that looks like it could've been filmed today? Predator (1987) visually doesn't look particularly dated to me. Maybe the whole bodybuilder-gaze thing it's got going on is a giveaway (like, it's not thirsty at all about biceps, pecs and abs the way modern films are)? Or maybe the gun / equipment props to a mil nerd? I want to say some of the milfetish stuff seems dated (like the green berets reverent namedrop) but ehh not sure on that one. Of course actor ages give it away but that's a given no matter what. Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 11:31
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is there even a single movie, comic book or not, from the 90's that looks like it could've been filmed today? Period pieces 
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Jan 23, 2021 11:39
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is there even a single movie, comic book or not, from the 90's that looks like it could've been filmed today? I'll say, though, that the Steel Works, Cyberdyne Assault and Pescadero Escape parts of T2 have a certain timelessness. I guess another giveaway would be practical effects vs lovely CGI Camera stuff everywhere.
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Jan 23, 2021 11:57
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:I want to say some of the milfetish stuff seems dated (like the green berets reverent namedrop) but ehh not sure on that one. That's probably the biggest tell in my opinion.It lacks the joyless creepy operator competency porn that has happened the last 10-15 years.They are a bunch of cowboys shooting from the hip and having fun out there till they start getting hunted. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 12:25
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I'm reminded of how Rampage (the giant ape one) had some merc in the woods with some truly ridiculous modding action going on.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is there even a single movie, comic book or not, from the 90's that looks like it could've been filmed today? Late 80s, but I remember thinking the blu-ray of Aliens really looked like it could have been shot in the current era of blockbuster genre films.
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Jan 23, 2021 15:23
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teagone posted:Late 80s, but I remember thinking the blu-ray of Aliens really looked like it could have been shot in the current era of blockbuster genre films. Probably one of those cases where it's because that's what the current era of blockbuster genre films is specifically aping.
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Jan 23, 2021 15:51
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Almost Blue posted:There was somebody on this forum who something to the effect of "Blade is if a 70s movie crashed headfirst into a 90s movie, skipping the 80s" which I think is about right. Haha, I was going to post this exact thing. I think that comment was from like 2015 and it's stuck with me since, glad to see I'm not alone in that.
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Jan 23, 2021 16:40
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Cap is canonically a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, just like uh...Bernie Sanders. I've seen arguements noting that as a guy that grew up poor in Depression-era Brooklyn, Steve would probably genuinely be very left-leaning.
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Jan 24, 2021 09:51
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Yeah, he’d definitely be an FDR Democrat (and probably a racist).
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Jan 24, 2021 17:26
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The neighbourhood he grow up in was apparently a really prominent area in the gay scene, too. And he was an artist. Probably painted murals under the New Deal.
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Jan 24, 2021 18:04
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He in fact did. The Cable & Deadpool series had a long arc about Cable attempting to create an socialist island utopia open to everyone willing to work for the common good. The US sends Cap to try and end the situation but it reminds him so much of the Brooklyn he grew up in that he sticks around a while volunteering and painting murals in his free time.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:01
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Hype hype hype! Godzilla vs Kong!
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Jan 24, 2021 21:31
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I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad?
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Jan 24, 2021 21:38
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thrawn527 posted:I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad? The kaiju fights were good, but the human element sucked—lots more human element stuff than kaiju fights. It's like a big-budget Heisei-era Godzilla movie, which were mostly bad imo.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:42
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thrawn527 posted:I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad? The trailer made it look insanely dope but most of the best shots were in the trailer already. The obligatory human plot was a lot weaker than in the first one, but I thought the monster fights were appropriately good and worth it if that’s what you’re into
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thrawn527 posted:I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad? Skip every scene that doesn't have a monster in it, enjoy your thirty minute monster beat em up
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Jan 24, 2021 21:45
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thrawn527 posted:I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad? I liked it, I think it's solid monster mash movie but it was a dramatic shift in tone from Godzilla 2014 with none of the gravity and sort of awe inspiring scale and scope that I don't think most people expected and it isn't as good as Kong Skull Island which it brorrows the action feel from so I think it fell below expectations. It also lacked a kind of polish in story, imo, and it's on the human side of the story. It's also very busy with moving the plot/locations around and introducing classic Godzilla concepts at you.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:47
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thrawn527 posted:I never saw KotM after hearing all the negative word about it. Was it really that bad? I think it’s awesome and stupid. I don’t hate the characters as much as everyone does because it’s just the lay of the land. We’re gonna get humans and they’re gonna be way less interesting than anything else. I love the score and all the personality the monsters got.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:49
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the funniest and worst part of KotM was Kyle Chandler. I swear he had to have been a late addition to the script. He whiplashed between being the new guy who needs stuff explained and being the hyper competent guy that no one knows that to do without. That and the villain giving their villainous monologue via facetime.
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Snowman_McK posted:A non lovely example of the same scene might ask him how much insulin costs, or when was the last time he asked for a raise, or how much an average car payment is. Does he rent? If you wanted to establish that he's out of touch, tie it to real concerns and anxieties americans have or something. The problem is that to catch him out with that assumes he’s economically out of touch, and would he be? Is he a millionaire? Canonically he’s supposed to be the kind of guy who listens to peoples problems so yeah, he’d know people who are struggling.
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Jan 25, 2021 11:07
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Justin Godscock posted:Blade holds up really well even with the lovely CGI and industrial metal design typical to films in the late 90s trying to be "with the kids". The world-building and character development are stronger than I though on a rewatch last year. Wesley Snipes also just owns the role and is going to be a steep hill to iceskate up. Fixed that for you. Snowman_McK posted:the funniest and worst part of KotM was Kyle Chandler. I swear he had to have been a late addition to the script. He whiplashed between being the new guy who needs stuff explained and being the hyper competent guy that no one knows that to do without. I haven't seen Early Edition in the longest time so I was surprised to see him in a big budget blockbuster.
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KotM definitely has clear cases of 'Oh poo poo we need a white male protagonist, and hairy grumpy dads are all the rage, give him more scenes'. Mind you I will forever adore Skull Island just for being a loving insane ecosystem.
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The MSJ posted:Fixed that for you. He’s in Peter Jackson’s King Kong as Bruce Baxter, the actor who stops being a coward long enough to save the group from the insect pit. He was also in Super 8 as the dad. Now that I think about it I think Kyle Chandler just likes big kaiju and monster movies a lot.
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Jan 25, 2021 12:44
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Something about being white male lead enough to satisfy execs and focus groups but not enough to distract from the monster.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I've seen arguements noting that as a guy that grew up poor in Depression-era Brooklyn, Steve would probably genuinely be very left-leaning. Certainly moreso than most Americans at the time who would have had very little exposure to the "melting pot".
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