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Eejit posted:Absolutely not. They just weren't in screm mode. I'm sure Mr and Mrs Floofington did plenty of screm beforehand and later in the evening. That's how they say good morning to the rest of the flock and how they find out where the party is in the evening Worth remembering that cockatiels are a type of cockatoo and my attempt to engage in debate in class this morning was very much hampered by the morning yell and also some general disagreement Ozzy and Sera were having.
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mediaphage posted:so many good birds here. My God. They are so perfect.  RoboRodent posted:Worth remembering that cockatiels are a type of cockatoo and my attempt to engage in debate in class this morning was very much hampered by the morning yell and also some general disagreement Ozzy and Sera were having. That's why I seem to be OK at handling them. I've got a pretty good grasp on the whole "chaotic good on coke and SCREM" mindset they maintain all day, every day.
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Wild cockatoos loving love to scream from the highest perch they can find.
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I know it's a big taboo to take on unweaned birds, but this budgie was sort of thrust into my care and I can't just abandon it. It was growing up in some sort of mill, so I hope that I manage to give it a better life. I'm not entirely sure how old it is, but it's just outright refusing to be syringe fed. I don't have the long attachment to feed it directly into the crop (I wouldn't want this either), I just have a nub at the end of the syringe and slowly try to squeeze food out so the bird can swallow at their own pace, but the little one refuses to open their mouth, even if I try to encourage them by tapping the beak or opening it with the syringe. The food is thick, so I'm pretty sure I won't aspirate it if it did decide to eat. I brought them home last night after they were fed, it's coming up to 24 hours now without them having had any food and I'm worrying. This morning, they were inquisitive and were waddling around my desk and preening. It's 5:27pm and they've been sleeping for the past couple of hours (head tucked into wing). Last night, I covered their cage and left them undisturbed from 2am (when I got home with them) to 11am. I'm just at a loss as to whether they're sleepy because they didn't get enough sleep last night, or because their energy levels are dropping since they've not had a meal all day. Avian vets don't exist here, so I'm stumped.  I've put a shirt over one side of the box cause they seemed to like sleeping under it. I've had them chilling on my desk all day, and when they want to come out, they just hop onto my hand and I let them poke around the desk. I've attempted to feed them 3 separate times today, and not a single time did they properly take food in. They'd lick some but then keep their mouth clamped. I don't have a thermometer, but I'm able to hold my pinky finger in the food and it's warm, not hot, and definitely not cold. I have an electric heater on in the room keeping it a toasty 21-22 degrees celsius. It's been chewing on the wood shavings, and I've seen it peck little specks on the desk. I dropped some millet across the desk to see if they were interested in any of that (since they were pecking wood shavings), but the first one they bit, they just wiggled it out and weren't interested in trying again. It's somewhere between 4 and 5 weeks? We're not sure. Qubee fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 20, 2021 |
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mediaphage posted:so many good birds here. I look at this and am incredibly jealous, saying to myself "Why are my birds so drat afraid of wheat grass?" Alex and Grace are so drat perfect. Rotten Cookies fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 20, 2021 |
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Jan 20, 2021 16:00
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I'm still working on my morning coffee, but here's my initial thoughts: Any vet is going to be better than no vet at all; they at least have the education to reason out some of the potential issues, and might have the professional connections to consult a specialist colleague. Or, just call an avian vet's office somewhere, they're usually happy to offer advice over the phone. Touch the prepared food to your lips; it should feel pleasantly warm. Adult human fingers aren't really sensitive enough to determine the right temperature for baby bird formula. It's possible that the dramatic change in environment has them too skeezed out to be comfortable eating, just yet. Swap out the wood shavings with newspaper, they might be munching on it. Place a shallow bowl of water at the bottom of their enclosure, dehydration will kill them faster than malnutrition. Change often. They need a larger enclosure than what's pictured, and a wadded up hand towel or washcloth to snuggle up into. Also a small heater, set to low, near one side. They're young enough that they need external heat to maintain metabolic processes. Keep trying. Keep us posted!
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Really useful info, thank you! They definitely are munching on the wood shavings, I got worried it was blocking their crop or something. I've already contacted vets in the area, they outright refuse to see birds. There's one avian vet but it has the most awful reviews and lots of "my bird was fine and then they killed it with incompetence". Swapping out wood shavings for newspaper, placing a shallow bowl of fresh water and transferring them to a bigger cage sat beside the electric heater set to low.
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do you have pellets for other birds? if the little one is pecking at things you might try putting some softened pellets or cooked egg within reach for them to munch on. i've found that the birds are also very into following human people cues, too; when we eat, the birds will eat. you might try being very obvious with eating in front of them to see if it makes any difference. Rotten Cookies posted:I look at this and am incredibly jealous, saying to myself "Why are my birds so drat afraid of wheat grass?" it took a few days! he was very suspicious for a while.
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For the record these are not *my* barn owls but something tells me you guys would like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_DwST8vKdQ
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BigDave posted:For the record these are not *my* barn owls but something tells me you guys would like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_DwST8vKdQ Clicked on it. After ten seconds, a hawk landed and started mugging for the camera. No owls, though. 
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Jan 21, 2021 08:58
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Captain Log posted:Clicked on it. After ten seconds, a hawk landed and started mugging for the camera. There are two sleepy ones top left. That hawk, though! 
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Anyone have any recommendations for heated pads / nests / bowls? Something for my budgie to just sleep in and be super cozy. Currently have the electric radiator on but drat does my room feel like a sauna, but the budgie still sits right beside the grating to be as close to the heater as possible. Also threw in a little hand towel thanks to Suntan Boy's advice, the little bugger turned it into a tent and sleeps inside it like a burrito. He / She / It has started eating way more reliably now, I'm super happy. I just use a spoon to feed it and they'll slurp it off, but it cools down rather quickly so I've resorted to doing a sort of bain marie style warmer to keep the metal bowl with the formula in it nice and warm. Also crushed up some pellets in a pestle and mortar into little specks, as they like pecking at little dust specks / wood specks, so I'm hoping they slowly graduate towards the pellets as it's actually good for them. Also, are these perches any good? I read that rough textured perches can give them sore spots or something. But my local pet store only has perfectly cylindrical perches or these.
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This picture was taken this morning after her weekly weigh in -  Guess what? She is DOWN from 140g to 128g!!! The only changes have been - - Splitting her food into a morning and afternoon portion - Stealing her food after 8:00pm She isn't getting less and the only change to her diet has been her small portion of seeds she gets with her pellets have been swapped to Volkman's No Sunflower blend. Hell, she might get through her self inflicted obesity without thyroid medication! Yay!
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Qubee posted:Anyone have any recommendations for heated pads / nests / bowls? Something for my budgie to just sleep in and be super cozy. Currently have the electric radiator on but drat does my room feel like a sauna, but the budgie still sits right beside the grating to be as close to the heater as possible. Also threw in a little hand towel thanks to Suntan Boy's advice, the little bugger turned it into a tent and sleeps inside it like a burrito. He / She / It has started eating way more reliably now, I'm super happy. I just use a spoon to feed it and they'll slurp it off, but it cools down rather quickly so I've resorted to doing a sort of bain marie style warmer to keep the metal bowl with the formula in it nice and warm. Also crushed up some pellets in a pestle and mortar into little specks, as they like pecking at little dust specks / wood specks, so I'm hoping they slowly graduate towards the pellets as it's actually good for them.
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Yeah a tad, windows are super jank and let a lot of cold night / early morning air in. It's currently 7c outside, and tomorrow it'll top off at about 13c. Well away from the 21-23c they are comfortable with, especially since this one is so young and hasn't had all the feathers properly come in yet. Next week it'll hit 20c and that's when I open the windows to let fresh air in and turn the heater off. But weather is topsy turvy and won't level out until March where it'll become unbearably hot (in the high 20s). I'm taking one for the team and sleeping in this sauna, but it isn't very pleasant. Would much rather come up with a solution that keeps baby warm and lets me sleep cold.
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Qubee posted:Yeah a tad, windows are super jank and let a lot of cold night / early morning air in. It's currently 7c outside, and tomorrow it'll top off at about 13c. Well away from the 21-23c they are comfortable with, especially since this one is so young and hasn't had all the feathers properly come in yet. Next week it'll hit 20c and that's when I open the windows to let fresh air in and turn the heater off. But weather is topsy turvy and won't level out until March where it'll become unbearably hot (in the high 20s). High 20s is literally perfect weather as far as I'm concerned
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honestly if you very strongly about it you could just get a heat lamp and have it near them, or even, like, a seedling warming mat.
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Unmute! https://i.imgur.com/9zrcWvt.mp4
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Captain Log posted:This picture was taken this morning after her weekly weigh in - Don't worry, she still looks delightfully round
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I just looked at her chart - after floating between 140g to 136g like a yo-yo, last week was 133 then this week in 128g. She recently started to eat 5-6g a day instead of 8g+. I wonder what shifted in her birdie brain. 
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Same bird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-b5DtyXEs
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Bacon for a parrot? I give mine chicken sometimes but only in very small quantities and I don't give him beef or pork. I admit I'm not working off of any nutritional knowledge here though. I mean I know the risks of bacon for a human heart and the bird has such a delicate little heart... SuperKlaus fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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When I make bacon I always leave one strip unseasoned so I can give Ozzy and Agrippa a crumb-sized piece.
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SuperKlaus posted:Bacon for a parrot? I give mine chicken sometimes but only in very small quantities and I don't give him beef or pork. I admit I'm not working off of any nutritional knowledge here though. It's a cute song from a cartoon about post apocalyptic earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGBKH6wxk4
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Honestly, I'd give mine beef or pork (well-cooked) well ahead of bacon because of the salt content. From what I remember, birds have a far lower salt-tolerance than we do. Pookie loves a bit of chicken or a piece of very rare steak. She literally juices steak like a vampire and throws away the well-drained fragments  .edit: LITERALLY A BIRD posted:
 . Those crows were extremely noble too, I really think they were regarded as dread monarchs in local bird society. When they held the Cedar Throne, other birds and squirrels just didn't dare set foot in the tree. I'm not joking when I say that the only real opposition they faced was the semi-annual attack staged by a biggish flock of magpies. You see, the Cedar used to be magpie territory, but they were driven out about 20 years ago by the scald crows and the magpies could never ever let it go.When the old crow pair went away to die, and the new crows took over, even though they were the same species they absolutely did not, and still do not have the same authority over the other birds/animals in the locality. They caw angrily at them, but now the squirrels just run off up another branch and laugh at them. Pookah fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Babysitting a baby crow, that's fantastic. I don't think a lot of people can say they've done that!!! You were the crows' family friends.
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Speaking of which, could I replace my rapist tag with a second bird tag? Captain Log has two excellent bird tags. That Quaker has probably never had bacon pancakes. Dogs don't know it's not bacon, and he probably doesn't either. I can definitely see a cockatoo throwing some other treat aside like, this isn't bacon, what is this, this is bullshit
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Halloween Jack posted:Speaking of which, could I replace my rapist tag with a second bird tag? Captain Log has two excellent bird tags. One of mine isn't a proper tag, it's from when I got the news my ALS diagnosis would be downgraded to something less..."Kill ya in a few years." Somebody in TFR gifted me the flavor text + Bird Drugs in my AV. I'm sure you could copy it, I just don't know how. LAB later added the Serra photo, which was objectively the Right Thing To Do.
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Is it normal for baby budgies to chirp / squeak at night? They had a nice big meal at 9pm, and have been covered with only one side open - which faces the electric heater. They're sat on this side of the cage with their head tucked into their wing. I don't know if it just means they're content / happy, or if they're upset about something? It's pretty dark for them, I'm not making noise, just watching a movie quietly on the PC. It's 11:30pm currently. Whole room is nice and toasty.
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Qubee posted:Is it normal for baby budgies to chirp / squeak at night? They had a nice big meal at 9pm, and have been covered with only one side open - which faces the electric heater. They're sat on this side of the cage with their head tucked into their wing. I don't know if it just means they're content / happy, or if they're upset about something? It's pretty dark for them, I'm not making noise, just watching a movie quietly on the PC. It's 11:30pm currently. Whole room is nice and toasty. Birds sure as hell dream. I've caught every bird I've ever owned muttering in their adorable sleep. It's also not all that strange to hear them gently caress around under their cover from time to time. Hell, Serra gives me a goodnight hiss when I get into bed. It makes me
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Well that just makes my heart melt. Against my better judgement, I lifted the covers to check on them before I read your post, and they tip tapped to the centre of the cage and just stared at me with this puppy dog look. I reached down and gave her a good old scratch and she kept bumping into my hand and nibbling my finger. I worried that meant I was stressing her out or it was a polite way of saying "buzz off" so I backed out and covered the cage. Google tells me it's their attempt at preening us? Taking an awful lot of self control to leave her be instead of going back in there for a round two. Tomorrow's going to be a good day. I'm going to start training with spray millet to teach her step up commands, cause I hate reaching in and grabbing her but it's the only way to get her out on the desk to feed formula. I've managed to coax her onto my finger with formula before but the cage is too awkward to get my finger straight enough for them to be comfortable hopping on every time. Hoping this means in the future I can just stick my finger at the entrance to the cage and she'll hop on herself so feeding is easier. How soon can I get her a partner, or should I wait until I definitely know her sex. I have no clue whether older budgies interact with unweaned / younger budgies nicely. Or if getting a cockatiel is a possibility, or do budgies prefer their own kind. Anyway, I'm using this thread as too much of a personal diary, it's just the first bird I've owned and I don't want to mess it up, but I think we've made it through the woods. She has a killer appetite, started eating pellets that I crush in a pestle and mortar to more manageable sizes, and has a big oil heater to keep her warm 24/7 (so fingers crossed sour crop doesn't happen). I haven't caught her drinking water from the bowl yet, even though it's low to the ground. Other than that, we seem clear of any rough patches. Can't wait for her to start flying so she can just roam around the entire room and choose whether she wants to be in the cage or out of it.
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you should definitely feel comfortable reaching in and grabbing them. stepping up is a good move of course but the more you handle them now the less hand shy they’re likely to be as adults. you sound like you’re doing great!
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Everyone, get ready for the New Year Birdie Roll Call next week. I'll bug everyone on Discord too. We gotta let the new folk and lurkers know which feathered doofuses we are talking about.
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Here's an interesting photo showing two men of the 8/10 Gordon Highlanders in France in WW1 with a French shop owner and her parrot. I know it's difficult but any idea on the species? I am thinking maybe a female Eclectus or perhaps an Amazon?
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mikerock posted:Here's an interesting photo showing two men of the 8/10 Gordon Highlanders in France in WW1 with a French shop owner and her parrot. I know it's difficult but any idea on the species? I am thinking maybe a female Eclectus or perhaps an Amazon? Definitely not an eclectus, beak is way too small. I'm kind of leaning toward some kind of amazon, based on the size, tail, and general shape, and the lighter spot on the top of it's head, but the beak is still kind of small, even for that. Man, that's a tough one.
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mikerock posted:Here's an interesting photo showing two men of the 8/10 Gordon Highlanders in France in WW1 with a French shop owner and her parrot. I know it's difficult but any idea on the species? I am thinking maybe a female Eclectus or perhaps an Amazon? Youth Decay fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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