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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Oh I'm so glad the "salacious details" have been consigned to the flames. Justice is served

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Oh I'm so glad the "salacious details" have been consigned to the flames. Justice is served

Those are for the various legal staff and law enforcement to jack off to and no one else. :nono:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

while we're speaking about pardons by trump, who here is excited about the prospect of a day 1 biden pardon for jizzlane

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

while we're speaking about pardons by trump, who here is excited about the prospect of a day 1 biden pardon for jizzlane
I don't think they're gonna have to, it's not like anyone is gonna care when she kills herself in prison while the cameras are malfunctioning and the guards are taking walks/naps.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Tubgoat posted:

I don't think they're gonna have to, it's not like anyone is gonna care when she kills herself in prison while the cameras are malfunctioning and the guards are taking walks/naps.

remember when epstein's guards were totally going to be charged

and their lawyer was like "they know what really happened that night"

then nothing happened to them

:thunk:

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Excelzior posted:

remember when epstein's guards were totally going to be charged

and their lawyer was like "they know what really happened that night"

then nothing happened to them

:thunk:

Yeah, you'd think that's two more loose ends to tie up.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
can't believe they gave Steve Jail a seat at the inauguration

HELLO LADIES
Feb 15, 2008
:3 -$5 :3

Excelzior posted:

remember when epstein's guards were totally going to be charged

and their lawyer was like "they know what really happened that night"

then nothing happened to them

:thunk:

Unless things have changed since a few months ago and there's absolutely no record of it, they were charged, have rejected a plea deal, and will go to trial. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/prison-guards-on-duty-the-night-jeffrey-epstein-died-get-trial-pushed-back-by-almost-a-year/ says the trial was scheduled for Jan 4th 2021, now it's June 14th 2021. The trial delay doesn't seem that unreasonable given COVID. Their names are Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, and they don't seem to be amongst Trump's pardon spree. So from all appearances, at the very least no one is afraid of their testimony. That there was a plea deal offered and turned down maybe seems a bit shady, until you realize it's the bog standard default throughout the entire :airquote: justice :airquote: system, so it could be an attempt to ~bury the truth~ or it could just be Tuesday.

That took about two minutes of Googling to find. The only value that this thread has is that it's a compilation of what could reasonably be called factual, if you don't give a poo poo about that QAnon is right there.

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

i hope they made jeff an archdemon and he gets to torment qanon ppl in the afterlife. if u believe he died that is

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

HELLO LADIES posted:

Unless things have changed since a few months ago and there's absolutely no record of it, they were charged, have rejected a plea deal, and will go to trial. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/prison-guards-on-duty-the-night-jeffrey-epstein-died-get-trial-pushed-back-by-almost-a-year/ says the trial was scheduled for Jan 4th 2021, now it's June 14th 2021. The trial delay doesn't seem that unreasonable given COVID. Their names are Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, and they don't seem to be amongst Trump's pardon spree. So from all appearances, at the very least no one is afraid of their testimony. That there was a plea deal offered and turned down maybe seems a bit shady, until you realize it's the bog standard default throughout the entire :airquote: justice :airquote: system, so it could be an attempt to ~bury the truth~ or it could just be Tuesday.

That took about two minutes of Googling to find. The only value that this thread has is that it's a compilation of what could reasonably be called factual, if you don't give a poo poo about that QAnon is right there.

Thanks for this. I have a feeling no one in power is worried about their testimony because either 1) Capital assassinated the global predator caste's child procurement specialist in the middle of a maximum security prison or 2) they pretended to do the above while actually just whisking him and his egg-shaped penis to safety, so the logical conclusion is Capital is allowed to do literally anything it wants and consequences aremonly for those that try to stop them.

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

HELLO LADIES posted:

Unless things have changed since a few months ago and there's absolutely no record of it, they were charged, have rejected a plea deal, and will go to trial. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/prison-guards-on-duty-the-night-jeffrey-epstein-died-get-trial-pushed-back-by-almost-a-year/ says the trial was scheduled for Jan 4th 2021, now it's June 14th 2021. The trial delay doesn't seem that unreasonable given COVID. Their names are Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, and they don't seem to be amongst Trump's pardon spree. So from all appearances, at the very least no one is afraid of their testimony. That there was a plea deal offered and turned down maybe seems a bit shady, until you realize it's the bog standard default throughout the entire :airquote: justice :airquote: system, so it could be an attempt to ~bury the truth~ or it could just be Tuesday.

That took about two minutes of Googling to find. The only value that this thread has is that it's a compilation of what could reasonably be called factual, if you don't give a poo poo about that QAnon is right there.

tbh posts like these are my fave part of the epstien thread which is (shockingly) one of the more informative and fact checked threads in cspam. especially big kudos considering how batshit people can get over stuff that probably happened and can be talked about like any other current event even if our media won't give it any air time

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

this is probably the greatest thread i've ever posted in tbh. 18 months of consistent crack ping.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

the thread sure is something alright.
https://twitter.com/influensopher/status/1352152849971441664?s=20

here's a fun Twitter thread about "sheep dipping," the process of forgery in which an individual is removed from the armed forces and employed by one of the alphabet agencies

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


gh0stpinballa posted:

this is probably the greatest thread i've ever posted in tbh. 18 months of consistent crack ping.
The periodic derails and goofy stuff also helps lighten things up so it's not all doomscrolling and despair.

By the way, what's your podcast called? I want to give it a listen and you can also feel free to ask me if you want me to search for and old stuff like those newspaper articles.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

GWBBQ posted:

The periodic derails and goofy stuff also helps lighten things up so it's not all doomscrolling and despair.

By the way, what's your podcast called? I want to give it a listen and you can also feel free to ask me if you want me to search for and old stuff like those newspaper articles.

"Pod Save America"

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

paul_soccer12 posted:

"Pod Save America"
That's not funny. :nono:

gh0stpinballa's podcast is called Ghost Stories for the End of the World.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


It was mildly funny. Thanks for the actual answer, I'm going to give it a listen on the way home.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

the thread sure is something alright.
https://twitter.com/influensopher/status/1352152849971441664?s=20

here's a fun Twitter thread about "sheep dipping," the process of forgery in which an individual is removed from the armed forces and employed by one of the alphabet agencies
Just to toss a more mundane possibility out, IIRC this was when the reports of right wing extremism in active duty military members and veterans started really becoming an issue. Could someone have forged documents after the fact to cover their asses?

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
This is your parents' crackping, CrackPing Classic®.

https://www.scribd.com/document/491322122/Howard-Kohn-Rolling-Stone-CIA-Mary-Carter-Paint-Company

https://scribddown.com/download/491322122/Howard-Kohn-Rolling-Stone-CIA-Mary-Carter-Paint-Company

Btw, they don't just do paint :ssh:

Wikipedia posted:

Resorts International was a hotel and casino company. From its origins as a paint company, it moved into the resort business in the 1960s with the development of Paradise Island in the Bahamas, and then expanded to Atlantic City, New Jersey with the opening of Resorts Casino Hotel in 1978. After the death of its longtime chairman, James Crosby, in 1986, the company was briefly controlled by Donald Trump, before being acquired by Merv Griffin in 1988. It was acquired by Sun International in 1996.

oh no my favs

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Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Remember how we had to keep bases running in Iraq to fight insurgents and couldn't leave because huge bombs kept going off in population centers, killing hundreds of Iraqi civilians but usually no US personnel

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




crackn and pingn

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

cant believe this thread is allowed to exist in a top level forum

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

Ghost Stories for the End of the World.
Wow, I'm 16 minutes into the first episode and am already deeper into my lack of faith in humanity.

On the positive side, ghost has a great voice and has a great sense of how to narrate this kind of story.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

The Saucer Hovers posted:

cant believe this thread is allowed to exist in a top level forum

Whoa, finally.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
found this over at the dangerous chemistry thread but I'd say it's related. man it's so loving funny how little this government cares for its workers let alone the general public
https://features.propublica.org/los-alamos/chad-walde-nuclear-facility-radiation-cancer/

quote:

On the first Thursday in May 2000, officials from the National Park Service started what was meant to be a small, 900-acre fire in a crescent-shaped part of Bandelier National Monument below the town of Los Alamos and its sister community of White Rock.

The fire was set to prevent more major fires. But the park service had forgotten to account for the wind, a report later found. Gusts picked up to more than 20 miles an hour, throwing embers more than a mile away into Los Alamos Canyon.

When Chad arrived at work the following Monday, the fire had spread to 3,000 acres, well beyond the park service’s control. His supervisor sent him home, along with all nonessential personnel. Thousands of evacuees relocated to gymnasiums-turned-shelters in Santa Fe.

Residents and elected officials worried what would happen if the fire — called Cerro Grande, after the name of the highest peak in Bandelier — engulfed nuclear materials stored at the lab.

While the fire was still burning, the New Mexican reported on a study, quietly published by the Department of Energy in 1997, that found a wildfire on lab property could release radioactive smoke that would expose nuclear workers to a radiation dose 135 times the allowable annual limit and affect people within a 50-mile radius. The study also said a tritium facility on the lab’s west side, where radioactive isotopes of hydrogen and other explosives were processed, was among the most vulnerable sites.

By 11 p.m. Wednesday, just hours after the last residents were evacuated from Los Alamos, a brush fire swept through the area surrounding the tritium facility, just as the study said it might. Firefighters would later recall being told to protect certain buildings “at all cost” and how flames transformed unnaturally into violent shades of colors as “different materials burned.”

“We were not monitored during the fire,” one worker later recalled at a public meeting held to help federal officials learn about the hazards and exposure risks that existed at Los Alamos over time, “even though those areas contained wastes from almost 60 years.”

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

GWBBQ posted:

Wow, I'm 16 minutes into the first episode and am already deeper into my lack of faith in humanity.

On the positive side, ghost has a great voice and has a great sense of how to narrate this kind of story.
:yeah:

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Tubgoat posted:

That's not funny. :nono:

gh0stpinballa's podcast is called Ghost Stories for the End of the World.

Oh poo poo, really? I've been listening all this time, and didn't know the author was a goon.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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I'm reading The Meaning of Mariah Carey on a break from Real Books and I cannot stop thinking about the probably tenuous threads between her breakdown, Glitter (2001), Tommy Mottola loving her over, her sister's Epstein-y abuse allegations against their mother, 9/11, Aaliyah, etc. Deciding whether i need a break from this thread or a deeper dive...



aight deeper dive it is

e:

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Was Aaliyah the one who died during production of a film called Queen of the Damned?

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

Was Aaliyah the one who died during production of a film called Queen of the Damned?

yup. I think she was also going to guest star in one of the Matrix sequels, which she was mercifully spared from.

The cause of the crash was a pretty solid case of systematic fuckups at ever level leading to a pilot (who had fraudulently obtained a license) taking off in a severely overloaded plane in conditions where anyone who gave a poo poo about safety rather than going with what they were asked to do by an A-list celebrity would never have let them onto the runway, nevermind giving clearance for takeoff. I think Hanlon's Razor applies here.

GWBBQ has issued a correction as of 01:18 on Jan 24, 2021

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Oh I'm so glad the "salacious details" have been consigned to the flames. Justice is served

finally can read the epstien news with my kids, thank you judge!

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

GWBBQ posted:

yup. I think she was also going to guest star in one of the Matrix sequels, which she was mercifully spared from.

The cause of the crash was a pretty solid case of systematic fuckups at ever level leading to a pilot (who had fraudulently obtained a license) taking off in a severely overloaded plane in conditions where anyone who gave a poo poo about safety rather than going with what they were asked to do by an A-list celebrity would never have let them onto the runway, nevermind giving clearance for takeoff. I think Hanlon's Razor applies here.

That is entirely too much incompetence to not be malice.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

That is entirely too much incompetence to not be malice.
Counterpoint: the existence of the phrase "controlled descent into terrain."

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Air travel is just dangerous enough that planes do crash for valid reasons but pretty much any time a high profile person is involved, foul play is not out of the question. There are degrees of course, JFK Jr. is probably not the result of outside interference whereas Paul Wellstone is a "100% killed by the Illuminati"

The trick is discerning which is which and that's where the fun is.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Is Dag Hammarskjold even a conspiracy theory at this point

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I did see a pretty creative/hosed up independent documentary about how similar to George HW Bush being directly involved in JFK's assassination in Dallas, George W Bush was involved in sabotaging JFK Jr.'s plane. The way it connected the dots (Bush's public absences during preparation for the 2000 campaign and probable location provided the opportunity, familiarity with aircraft from being in the Texas air national guard provided the means, sabotaging a potential Kennedy candidacy- and he would have won, no doubt- as the motive) was absolutely a stretch, but the idea of both father and son doing a "hit" on the scion and patriarch of a rival dynasty makes for extremely compelling historical fiction.

Also it ties into the whole Yale Bonesmen blood initiation/ritual murder etc. etc., basically as big a conspiracy as you want to make it.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

killing a kennedy is just one of many ways he tried to replicate his fathers legacy :c00lbutt:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Air travel is just dangerous enough that planes do crash for valid reasons but pretty much any time a high profile person is involved, foul play is not out of the question. There are degrees of course, JFK Jr. is probably not the result of outside interference whereas Paul Wellstone is a "100% killed by the Illuminati"

The trick is discerning which is which and that's where the fun is.

What about Kobe

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

What about Kobe

planes are at least aerodynamic, helicopters are an affront to physics and it's a wonder they don't kill more people.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Atrocious Joe posted:

What about Kobe

death arranged by 33rd degree Mason and friend of the Clintons Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Atrocious Joe posted:

What about Kobe

I don't know what the "angle" would be for Kobe. There's no evidence of him gearing up to do anything like fight the pedophile cabal like with Anthony Bourdain, Chris Cornell etc. who I am pretty certain were suicided as opposed to actually committing suicide. There wasn't any reason to be rid of him so I think it was an honest fuckup.

StashAugustine posted:

Is Dag Hammarskjold even a conspiracy theory at this point

This is one in the "100% killed by the Illuminati" column but the existence of said column is not universally acknowledged

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