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Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Danaru posted:

I got stuck behind a boomer who would get his tickets scanned, get new tickets with whatever he won, then have those scanned right away. The cashier for whatever reason was totally cool with him doing this for ten loving minutes

I let a customer do this once. I was mostly just thinking, "If this were the year six, he'd be so good at foraging. Ooh, what's under this rock? Ooh, what's under this rock? Ooh, what's under this rock?"

The first cave man with this quirk was probably the 1st Champion Forager. Probably had like 50 kids that lived.

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


The Nastier Nate posted:

Do you mean scratch offs? The whole fun of that is the 30 seconds of dopamine you get while scratching the boxes to see if you won. Just having someone text you a QR code saying you lost sounds cyberdystopia as hell and possibly filled with chances of fraud

No like the mega millions and poo poo

https://jackpocket.com/installs/android?version=native

Danaru posted:

I got stuck behind a boomer who would get his tickets scanned, get new tickets with whatever he won, then have those scanned right away. The cashier for whatever reason was totally cool with him doing this for ten loving minutes

It's because lottery players are insane and will absolutely pitch the biggest angriest meltdown at the counter and you don't get paid enough to deal with that. Source: two years as a gas station register jockey

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Danaru posted:

I got stuck behind a boomer who would get his tickets scanned, get new tickets with whatever he won, then have those scanned right away. The cashier for whatever reason was totally cool with him doing this for ten loving minutes

Omfg you've reminded me of an intensely annoying man that used to come to my shop EARLY when I was opening up and had poo poo loads of stuff to set up, and buy several scratchcards. He'd go to his van, scratch them off, come back in, get some more, go to his van, scratch them off, get some more until he'd lost on them all. Every time he came back I'd have to drop what I was doing, walk all the way back behind the till and go through the process over and over again, while I got more and more behind on all the jobs I had to do. God loving drat he was irritating.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Reminder that Uber Eats / Skip the Dishes etc take a seriously huge cut from the restaurants too, so they're bleeding the restaurant, the driver, and the user for an extremely minimal improvement in convenience.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

that’s why you should carry cash so you can throw it on the counter and leave

Lugubrious
Jul 2, 2004

Rondette posted:

Omfg you've reminded me of an intensely annoying man that used to come to my shop EARLY when I was opening up and had poo poo loads of stuff to set up, and buy several scratchcards. He'd go to his van, scratch them off, come back in, get some more, go to his van, scratch them off, get some more until he'd lost on them all. Every time he came back I'd have to drop what I was doing, walk all the way back behind the till and go through the process over and over again, while I got more and more behind on all the jobs I had to do. God loving drat he was irritating.

I worked a gas station in high school, and one of my teachers would come do this after school. Every day he would drop 500 bucks on the 20 dollar tickets, then play until nothing was left. If anyone noticed him going back and forth and gave him side eye, or God forbid actually said something, he would launch into a long winded defense of how actually he's won ten grand before.

Which sounds less impressive when you think about how he spent $2500 a week, and most of the time ended up with nothing to show for it. Somehow selling scratch offs made me feel dirtier than selling cigarettes or booze.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Lugubrious posted:

Somehow selling scratch offs made me feel dirtier than selling cigarettes or booze.

Hey, that's their retirement plan you're talking about

Accretionist has issued a correction as of 18:03 on Jan 24, 2021

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Danaru posted:

I got stuck behind a boomer who would get his tickets scanned, get new tickets with whatever he won, then have those scanned right away. The cashier for whatever reason was totally cool with him doing this for ten loving minutes

that was the most annoying poo poo back when i still paid for gas with cash. the regular checkout and lottery were on opposite sides of the counter area, but with only one clerk you would still wind up waiting while they dealt with the lotto junkies

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Ill have one MegaBux.

And one Lucky Irish


....

<scritch scritch scritch>

mmm


...gimme two MegaBux


...

<scritch scritch scritch>


and one PotOGold

and a 7 Flush...


...



<scritch scritch scritch>

mmm


and one Cash Magic
thank you

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Danaru posted:

I got stuck behind a boomer who would get his tickets scanned, get new tickets with whatever he won, then have those scanned right away. The cashier for whatever reason was totally cool with him doing this for ten loving minutes

i worked for a gas station with customers like this and my boss would lose it on me if I disrupted these 'repeat customers'.

You dont make any money on lottery sales in California, and most of these jackasses didnt even buy anything besides the scratchers.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


doesn't the ticket seller get a cut of winnings? every time one of those guys plays your boss is playing too

Missing Donut
Apr 24, 2003

Trying to lead a middle-aged life. Well, it's either that or drop dead.

PokeJoe posted:

doesn't the ticket seller get a cut of winnings? every time one of those guys plays your boss is playing too

It depends on the state, but generally the retailer earns a small margin on lottery tickets sold (around the same margin that they make on gas) and they may receive incentive payments if they sell a major prize ticket.

All in all, it’s pathetic unless you have major volume or if people buy other in-store items at the same time.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

PokeJoe posted:

doesn't the ticket seller get a cut of winnings? every time one of those guys plays your boss is playing too

Looks like it:


https://www.calottery.com/become-a-retailer

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 217 days!

Accretionist posted:

I let a customer do this once. I was mostly just thinking, "If this were the year six, he'd be so good at foraging. Ooh, what's under this rock? Ooh, what's under this rock? Ooh, what's under this rock?"

The first cave man with this quirk was probably the 1st Champion Forager. Probably had like 50 kids that lived.

that's the dopamine system, doing its thing

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

dopamine is a hell of a drug

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

there's a podcast, probably radiolab, that talked about several old folks who were addicted to gambling - borrowing for their decedents, borrowing from old coworkers, selling off all their stuff, and losing everything, going to the casino with every dollar they could find - and they got on a trial to take dopamine and it 100% cured the compulsion. They trained their brain to only feel good when playing games of risk and society was happy to take their money for a 30 second high

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

PokeJoe posted:

doesn't the ticket seller get a cut of winnings? every time one of those guys plays your boss is playing too

yea but the boss isnt gambling, unless you consider the oppuntinty cost of using that counter space for something else that might sell better then lottery tickets...maybe booze or cigarettes

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Lugubrious posted:

lin high school, and one of my teachers ... would drop 500 bucks on the 20 dollar tickets

how did he afford this

Lugubrious
Jul 2, 2004

indigi posted:

how did he afford this

I never asked, but he also drove a super nice SUV so I always assumed his spouse was loaded or he'd won really big at some point and was chasing that high until he ran out of money.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Jesus loving christ, just smoke a joint.

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010

Antonymous posted:

borrowing for their decedents

loving sinister.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
a few days ago someone was asking what was bad about the Gates Foundation's charity efforts

here's an example

https://twitter.com/parismarx/status/1353330538292121602

because Gates puts hundreds of millions of dollars into Oxford's vaccine division, he had the leverage to pressure their decisions

for example, loudly urging to sign a one-on-one exclusivity deal with a pharma company instead of making the vaccine rights freely available

quote:

Oxford backed off from its open-license pledge after the Gates Foundation urged it to find a big-company partner to get its vaccine to market.

“We went to Oxford and said, Hey, you’re doing brilliant work,” Bill Gates told reporters on June 3, a transcript shows. “But … you really need to team up.” The comments were first reported by Bloomberg.

AstraZeneca, one of the U.K.’s two major pharma companies, may have demanded an exclusive license in return for doing a deal, said Ken Shadlen, a professor at the London School of Economics and an authority on pharma patents—a theory supported by comments from CEO Soriot.

“I think IP [intellectual property, or exclusive patents] is a fundamental part of our industry and if you don’t protect IP, then essentially there is no incentive for anybody to innovate,” Soriot told the newspaper The Telegraph in May.

Some see the Gates Foundation, a heavy funder of Gavi, CEPI and many other vaccine projects, as supporting traditional patent rights for pharma companies.

“[Bill] Gates has staked out this outsized role in the vaccine world,” Love said. “He has an ideological belief that the intellectual property system is a wonderful mechanism that is necessary for innovation and prosperity.”

The Gates Foundation requires all its grantees to commit to making products “widely available at an affordable price,” a spokesperson said.

it's worth noting that the Gates Foundation also invests in pharma companies and thus indirectly profits from making sure private industry reaps a bountiful profit off this stuff. Bill himself likely personally does as well, although by all accounts he's notoriously secretive about his investments so no one knows where his personal money sits

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:

loving sinister.

eh should be 'from'

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

That's pretty bad. But number goes up!

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

inferis posted:

I mean do you never go to convenience stores? the real addicts scratch them on the counter, and the people who are even further gone buy them and have the cashier scan them right there.

I have never ever seen someone buy one of those and scratch it off at the counter, they either take em' home with them or (far more often) just immediately get the cashier to scan it.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

“I think IP [intellectual property, or exclusive patents] is a fundamental part of our industry and if you don’t protect IP, then essentially there is no incentive for anybody to innovate,” Soriot told the newspaper The Telegraph in May.

Oh gently caress right off, your incentive to innovate is the loving global pandemic you absolute dirtbag garbage person

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Shame Boy posted:

I have never ever seen someone buy one of those and scratch it off at the counter, they either take em' home with them or (far more often) just immediately get the cashier to scan it.

It happens all the time. Ask the person the next time you're in and they'll have strong opinions on the mess those people leave behind.

They either wipe it off into the floor where it needs swept up or leave it on the counter for the employee to clean

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lugubrious posted:

I worked a gas station in high school, and one of my teachers would come do this after school. Every day he would drop 500 bucks on the 20 dollar tickets, then play until nothing was left. If anyone noticed him going back and forth and gave him side eye, or God forbid actually said something, he would launch into a long winded defense of how actually he's won ten grand before.

Which sounds less impressive when you think about how he spent $2500 a week, and most of the time ended up with nothing to show for it. Somehow selling scratch offs made me feel dirtier than selling cigarettes or booze.

The gently caress kind of highschool did you go to where the teachers can afford $2500 a week in scratch-off tickets without dying of starvation

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Shame Boy posted:

The gently caress kind of highschool did you go to where the teachers can afford $2500 a week in scratch-off tickets without dying of starvation

they can’t, that’s the whole point

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

inferis posted:

they can’t, that’s the whole point

Let me rephrase: what kind of highschool are you going to where a teacher can spend $2500 on scratch-off tickets for more than like a month without maxing out all lines of credit and then dying of starvation

Lugubrious
Jul 2, 2004

Shame Boy posted:

Let me rephrase: what kind of highschool are you going to where a teacher can spend $2500 on scratch-off tickets for more than like a month without maxing out all lines of credit and then dying of starvation

One in a super low cost of living area where a single wealthy person with no kids could probably support their spouse having a $2500 a week habit for 9 months of the year. Or at least for the single school year I worked there.

I was a timid 16 year old, so I was too afraid to ask questions about a teacher's terrible financial decisions. For all I know he was starving!

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/22/who-platform-for-pharmaceutical-firms-unused-since-pandemic-began

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

I have observed two separate instances of acquaintances with mental illness blow through or be scammed out of inheritances in short order. A $500 a day scratcher habit kind of sounds like this.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Rondette posted:

Omfg you've reminded me of an intensely annoying man that used to come to my shop EARLY when I was opening up and had poo poo loads of stuff to set up, and buy several scratchcards. He'd go to his van, scratch them off, come back in, get some more, go to his van, scratch them off, get some more until he'd lost on them all. Every time he came back I'd have to drop what I was doing, walk all the way back behind the till and go through the process over and over again, while I got more and more behind on all the jobs I had to do. God loving drat he was irritating.

Oh noooo a customer!

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Oh noooo a customer!

My exact thought but I didn't want to say it and be called a capitalist pigdog or whatever

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Yeah, the real issue is that the owner required the staff to set the place up in the morning after it opened instead of before. It should be a perfectly reasonable thing to do to go into a shop to buy whatever you want any time after it opens, as many times as you like.

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Oh noooo a customer!

yeah dude, gently caress customers

every single one of those fuckers

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

No tolerable acts of consumption under capitalism

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I dont think it's beyond the pale to remember that employees are people too and its polite to not bug them too much. Especially because most business owners are pieces of poo poo and for most employees at stores, especially gas stations, it's like 5% of your job to help customers and you have all this other poo poo to do or you get in trouble.

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BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

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