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Amppelix posted:oh speaking of, raise your hand if three houses taught you how to pronounce british names like leicester and gloucester Don't forget Sylvain Gotye
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i mean, that one at least has obviously non-english etymology. i thought i knew all of english's stupid little pronunciation tricks but i was very wrong
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Jan 24, 2021 21:29
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I'm still annoyed at the mispronunciation of "von," but that sees to be an accepted English pronunciation.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:33
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Amppelix posted:i mean, that one at least has obviously non-english etymology. i thought i knew all of english's stupid little pronunciation tricks but i was very wrong It's because it is a hold over from Old English which hasn't really existed for hundreds of years outside of proper nouns. Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm still annoyed at the mispronunciation of "von," but that sees to be an accepted English pronunciation. This gets me, too.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:51
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Vulcan Raven: In the natural world there is no such thing as boundless slaughter, but you [points at Bernie]... you are from a world I do not wish to know.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm still annoyed at the mispronunciation of "von," but that sees to be an accepted English pronunciation. How is it supposed to be pronounced?
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Jan 25, 2021 05:54
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it's a german word (well, "word" may be a bit generous) and in german v is most often pronounced as an f sound. so it's supposed to be fon.
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Jan 25, 2021 05:57
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Pronouncing foreign words wrong is a proud English tradition.
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Amppelix posted:it's a german word (well, "word" may be a bit generous) and in german v is most often pronounced as an f sound. so it's supposed to be fon. Nah, von's not just for titles. It means from in other contexts too. (...Sort of. German prepositions don't always map super neatly to English ones in terms of usage.)
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Jan 25, 2021 06:37
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Playing through the game for the first time on Chapter 15 with Crimson Flower. I'm just going to have to recruit Dorothea and Petra on every playthrough going forward. I like them they're the best and in battle they're the easiest pair to just toss towards a flank and they'll be fine. Also Ferd as a dancer is a hilarious place into the middle gently caress off you can't touch me.
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Cattail Prophet posted:Nah, von's not just for titles. It means from in other contexts too. (...Sort of. German prepositions don't always map super neatly to English ones in terms of usage.) That goes for most prepositions across languages. I think you can cover almost any context with either "of", "from," or "by." In the context of titles, it literally means "of," like Edelgard would be Edelgard of Hresvelg in English.
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Amppelix posted:oh speaking of, raise your hand if three houses taught you how to pronounce british names like leicester and gloucester Visiting England is a trip. There will be some village named like, "Cockandballs" or something, and all of the locals will look at you like you're crazy if you don't pronounce it "Kubbles", or whatever bizarre pronunciation it actually has. (Not a real example, but I had experiences like that. Asking for directions in England is hard.)
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Inu posted:Visiting England is a trip. There will be some village named like, "Cockandballs" or something, and all of the locals will look at you like you're crazy if you don't pronounce it "Kubbles", or whatever bizarre pronunciation it actually has. (Not a real example, but I had experiences like that. Asking for directions in England is hard.)
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Jan 25, 2021 13:58
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I'm at Arianrhod on a first time, CF run and this is the point where I have no idea what the hap is fuckening. Cornelia went down like a sack of spuds even though I have zero idea who she was. I don't want this to be explained I'm sure it will eventually make sense over multiple runs and that's part of the fun. e: a battle on the Taitlean plains? That's not ominous at all! Prurient Squid fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Jan 25, 2021 14:11
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That part definitely gets fleshed out a bit more on Azure Moon, but you do get context before the mission for why you're doing Arianrhod. If my memory serves me right, it's a strike against TWSITD, and they retaliate by dropping the arrow of light. Edelgard mentions that only the Strike Force knows of this plan.
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Jan 25, 2021 14:13
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I honestly just imagine Rhea spending all her free time writing Dante's Inferno style biblical fanfiction all about Edelgard burning in Hell
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Yeah, I don't think it's explicitly stated, but it can be inferred that (spoiler only contains details for that specific chapter) Cornelia is affiliated with Those Who Slither in the Dark. Edelgard and Hubert deliberately avoid letting anyone but the strike force know where they're going, Cornelia freaks out when you show up, the whole fortress gets blown to poo poo after she dies, and Arundel is mighty steamed when you see him again. It's Edelgard making a move against Arundel, which is all the background you get in this particular route.
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Jan 25, 2021 14:25
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Fire Emblem is about family, that's what makes it so powerful.
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Prurient Squid posted:I'm at Arianrhod on a first time, CF run and this is the point where I have no idea what the hap is fuckening. Cornelia went down like a sack of spuds even though I have zero idea who she was. I don't want this to be explained I'm sure it will eventually make sense over multiple runs and that's part of the fun. I am in the exact same place and I want to say that this is very poorly explained. Like, I gather that she was a spy for the evil mages that secretly ran the empire under Ionius but there's not more explanation than that.
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Ogmius815 posted:I am in the exact same place and I want to say that this is very poorly explained. Like, I gather that she was a spy for the evil mages that secretly ran the empire under Ionius but there's not more explanation than that. It doesn't help that there's a huge mistranslation Cornelia's dying words are like "all according to plan" but the original line is "oh poo poo, you've been taking advantage of us all this time and now we're hosed"
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Well Manicured Man posted:It doesn't help that there's a huge mistranslation Cornelia's dying words are like "all according to plan" but the original line is "oh poo poo, you've been taking advantage of us all this time and now we're hosed" Yeah that's a pretty serious translation error. I'm glad I know that. Although they don't seem that hosed seeing as they apparently have magic nukes that can destroy entire fortresses.
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Ogmius815 posted:Yeah that's a pretty serious translation error. I'm glad I know that. Although they don't seem that hosed seeing as they apparently have magic nukes that can destroy entire fortresses. It's a bit confusing since CF is so short that the whole thing with TWSITD ends up feeling almost like an aborted plotline, but the sudden attack on Cornelia is basically Edelgard's first open attack on her "allies" after years of telling them she was going to murder them all horribly and them just patting her on the head and being like "aww that's our little flame emperor, she thinks she can murder us" because they're so confident they have all the leverage. The thing is, they need her because they can't just nuke everywhere (either their stockpile of satellite ICBMs is way lower than they let on or they don't want to rule over a blighted hellscape) or get rid of the charismatic figurehead in charge of the empire, but they also can't have her wantonly murdering them, so they nuke Arianrhod and tell Edelgard "there's more where that came from, so don't do it again" It's a real shame that there's this potentially great plot thread through CF about Edelgard slowly gaining leverage over her "allies" so that she can eventually take out the real bad guys but you basically have to squint to see it and the only resolution you get for it is a text screen in the epilogue.
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Well Manicured Man posted:It's a bit confusing since CF is so short that the whole thing with TWSITD ends up feeling almost like an aborted plotline, but the sudden attack on Cornelia is basically Edelgard's first open attack on her "allies" after years of telling them she was going to murder them all horribly and them just patting her on the head and being like "aww that's our little flame emperor, she thinks she can murder us" because they're so confident they have all the leverage. The thing is, they need her because they can't just nuke everywhere (either their stockpile of satellite ICBMs is way lower than they let on or they don't want to rule over a blighted hellscape) or get rid of the charismatic figurehead in charge of the empire, but they also can't have her wantonly murdering them, so they nuke Arianrhod and tell Edelgard "there's more where that came from, so don't do it again" This, unfortunately, is just one of those things. FE3H is a great game that doesn't feel rushed, but in a friction-less world with no deadlines or budgets it could have been 10x better. There's no reason I can see why CF couldn't have had three more chapters about dealing with Arundel and his fuckers. EDIT: Although TBH Part 2 kind of drags a bit even with just 6 chapters. I kind of wonder how the other paths that are longer feel.
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There are actually buried remnants of code for a CF Shambhala before Tailtean and Fhirdiad. Though I can't find the post anymore hrmph.
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Ogmius815 posted:This, unfortunately, is just one of those things. FE3H is a great game that doesn't feel rushed, but in a friction-less world with no deadlines or budgets it could have been 10x better. There's no reason I can see why CF couldn't have had three more chapters about dealing with Arundel and his fuckers. It's a shame that the two most interesting characters in the game get such short shrift. Edelgard gets a short route thrown together at the last minute and Rhea doesn't get a route at all. Edit: Oh yeah, Claude gets shafted too because his route is a copy+paste of the church route. Once you've played through the whole game it really becomes obvious that they hadn't originally intended to have multiple routes and didn't have time or resources to do the concept justice once they decided to do it. Well Manicured Man fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Crimson Flower was always intended from the get-go. The positioning of internal components supports that along with dev interviews. Its shortness is partially due to it having more unique assets compared to others (including ones that aren't even used) and budget/time/suits complaints. Silver Snow, for all it was made first, has half the route fitting better on Verdant Wind or having plenty of parts that just make no sense. Remnant maps unassigned to any route would slot right into SS's pool. You were probably supposed to fight Nemesis after Shambhala. Monastery text is bizarrely copied over from VW in places.
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McTimmy posted:Crimson Flower was always intended from the get-go. The positioning of internal components supports that along with dev interviews. Its shortness is partially due to it having more unique assets compared to others (including ones that aren't even used) and budget/time/suits complaints. Silver Snow, for all it was made first, has half the route fitting better on Verdant Wind or having plenty of parts that just make no sense. Remnant maps unassigned to any route would slot right into SS's pool. You were probably supposed to fight Nemesis after Shambhala. Monastery text is bizarrely copied over from VW in places. That's interesting. I could have sworn there was a dev interview stating that SS was the first route developed and the idea for subsequent routes was a later development, with CF thrown in as an "easter egg" route that was originally much more well hidden. I suppose I could have misinterpreted and that could have all been hashed out much earlier in the game's design than I thought. \/\/\/\/\/ When I think "easter egg" I think "well hidden bonus content that rewards the player's curiosity" which is what CF was seemingly originally intended to be but ok Well Manicured Man fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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"Easter egg" is an epithet applied to CF by internet complainers disappointed by CF's shorter length and lack of anime cut-scenes. Easter eggs do not typically have things like the several unique maps that only appear in CF, and the three unique playable units.
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why doesn't it have a unique final boss theme though? check mate.
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Tired Moritz posted:why doesn't it have a unique final boss theme though? check mate. Dimitri's just a thief stealing a remix of a song named after Edelgard.
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Prurient Squid posted:In Britain there's a bank called Alliance and Leicester so that's literally all I think about when I hear Leicester Alliance. Maybe Claude was just a guy who worked at a bank this whole time? Whenever someone says "The Alliance" my brain automatically adds "to End Hulkamania."
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Inu posted:Visiting England is a trip. There will be some village named like, "Cockandballs" or something, and all of the locals will look at you like you're crazy if you don't pronounce it "Kubbles", or whatever bizarre pronunciation it actually has. (Not a real example, but I had experiences like that. Asking for directions in England is hard.) You still see that poo poo in New York. There is a street in Manhattan called Houston, pronounced “Haus-Ton” and if you pronounce it like that city in Texas, you out yourself. There’s also a section named Greenwich, but it’s pronounced “gren-itch”.
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Crimson Flower is my favourite to replay because it's the shortest. The Monastery really outstays its welcome after the first playthrough.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Crimson Flower is my favourite to replay because it's the shortest. The Monastery really outstays its welcome after the FTFY
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Also while I get maybe needing a mission to kill the slitherers, they suck and are boring and more than anything else, CF sticks the all important landing. It's last two maps are perfect and it ends where it should.
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Eimi posted:Also while I get maybe needing a mission to kill the slitherers, they suck and are boring and more than anything else, CF sticks the all important landing. It's last two maps are perfect and it ends where it should. Having just done CF, I agree that the ending is great from a story perspective and the last two maps are excellent in terms of both game play and storytelling. However, you wouldn't have to do the demonic wizard crush mission(s) after those two. You could do them after the fall of Ahrianrhode (SP?) but before Edelgard's main campaign against the Kingdom. But ultimately my take is that the CF route is fine, and these are just small critiques.
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How "hard" is hard mode? I'm finishing a classic normal mode and my units are one-shotting enemies and it's getting boring. I want a little more of a challenge but not so much more than I have to rely on certain units gaining certain stats at level up to make them useable.
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