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Stux posted:yeah ive had exactly zero of the wiki fits be wrong, you need to make sure you're paying attention to stuff like if it needs to be folded or not, mag empty/removed etc. the only time ive had to change the wiki build is just due to parts being overpriced bcos theyre on the wiki build and i havnt unlocked the trader purchase yet, and replacing them with an exact stat stand in has worked fine. https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Gunsmith_-_Part_3#Shopping_List posted:recoil sum less than 250 So... Qmass fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Jan 24, 2021 13:05
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Ixtlilton posted:idk I lived both times I went for The Guide. Stayed in the basement, even killed a raider one time. Terrible creatures. I will forever more think of raiders as mudcrabs. Thanks for this.
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Jan 24, 2021 17:40
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the vector is a little monster isnt it wowoah
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Jan 24, 2021 17:49
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The vector is pretty nuts. I was running through people with it on Factory yesterday. No need for a scope, just hipfire enough bullets into them to make them drop before they can raise a weapon. I see why its the new meta. The gun itself is a cool 100k and it doesn't need many mods. You can get out the door with it and a complete loadup of ammo for about 200k, which is a good breakeven. I haven't tried the .45 version, but I hear it kicks hard. The 9mm version has almost no recoil. It's gonna get a nerf eventually, but I think that nerf is gonna come via a price increase and a small modification to vertical recoil. It needs to kick more.
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Jan 24, 2021 18:21
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ShowTime posted:The vector is pretty nuts. I was running through people with it on Factory yesterday. No need for a scope, just hipfire enough bullets into them to make them drop before they can raise a weapon. I see why its the new meta. The gun itself is a cool 100k and it doesn't need many mods. You can get out the door with it and a complete loadup of ammo for about 200k, which is a good breakeven. The only downside to the 9mm version is the ammo cost for 7N31. If you don't mind spraying 120k+ of ammo a raid, it's certainly effective.
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yeah i nabbed one off a duo in factory and got a good four raids out of it, i just went with ap 6.3 so i could pack a couple of 50 mags and not feel too bad about dumping them at people https://i.imgur.com/j93kymI.mp4 i shouldve ads'd the second guy lol
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Jan 24, 2021 18:42
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Jan 24, 2021 18:47
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Qmass posted:still freaking me out when I hear the zipper on the bag I just searched (or any other container close noise) play when I have turned around and taken a few steps away - wish it didnt do that Ugh, yes. That sound is the horror. The horror.
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Jan 24, 2021 19:22
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Malefitz posted:Ugh, yes. That sound is the horror. The horror. The filing cabinets confuse me. I searched one and after I was done, it was closed. A buddy searched another filing cabinet but all the drawers on his were left open. I don't understand how that mess works. Also you can hear a filing cabinet being searched from outside the building...Those wd-40 cans we find should be usable to make filing cabinets quiet to search...
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Jan 24, 2021 19:57
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containers you search close themselves on your client, containers other people search remain open as long as you were in the raid at the time
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Stux posted:yeah i nabbed one off a duo in factory and got a good four raids out of it, i just went with ap 6.3 so i could pack a couple of 50 mags and not feel too bad about dumping them at people I also just use AP 6.3 with them. You are spewing enough rounds via the vector that you almost want a slightly worse version of ammo because enough rounds are entering their body to compensate for the downgraded ammo and enough rounds are missing you almost don't want to waste the money. And by missing, I mean the target died after the first 5 bullets and the next 5 are going into an already dead body. If you haven't tried the vector, I highly recommend trying it. Stick a suppressor on it, bring at least 5 big stick 9x19 magazines and go to town. You don't need a laser sight on it and you almost don't need a sight. I hipfired 80% of my targets. I've gotten pretty good at hipfiring and the vector is a weapon made for it. By the time your opponent can ADS you just put 10 bullets into their body.
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It's a more interesting meta than the mosin was, both to fight against and to use.
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very glad the days of 50% of deaths being mosin one taps are behind us
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aniviron posted:It's a more interesting meta than the mosin was, both to fight against and to use. I loved the Mosin...it was a dirt cheap chad slayer. The vector is on the opposite end of the cost spectrum. I liked the 16k mosins..... Stux posted:very glad the days of 50% of deaths being mosin one taps are behind us See - that's why I loved it. Because I had the mosin.
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i mean i only ran that vector because i got it from a sweaty duo who i killed with a single ap 6.3 clip m9a3 lol theres ur dirt cheap chad slayer
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catch me out here running unmodded pp-19s baby awoo
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7N31 is entirely unnecessary in the Vector with how much lead it puts out so quickly. When I feel like being a big boy PMC I load it up with AP and it salts the earth so nothing can ever live again in whatever direction I point it in.
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Ah I feel bad. I did a quick scav run and it looks like I was joined up in the middle of the server being hosed up. Lots of lag to transfer loot n poo poo. Ended up killing 4 dudes, 3 of them lagging hard and 1 was running in place the entire time I watched him (had a keycard on em). Lag affected me for about 2 mins and then I was fine, everyone else seemed real hosed up though.
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ShowTime posted:If you haven't tried the vector, I highly recommend trying it. Stick a suppressor on it, bring at least 5 big stick 9x19 magazines and go to town. You don't need a laser sight on it and you almost don't need a sight. I hipfired 80% of my targets. I've gotten pretty good at hipfiring and the vector is a weapon made for it. By the time your opponent can ADS you just put 10 bullets into their body. just wanna add something: if you EVER die because you stopped shooting because you thought the target should've/did die and you only considered this because your ammo is too expensive, you need to downgrade to a subtier of ammo pst gzh isn't even that bad, or just make yourr first 5-10 bullets ap6.13 and the rest pst gzh if you're poor, you should always magdump people
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Jan 25, 2021 21:28
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Until there is some kinda magazine preset I will never (intentionally) mix ammo types. 
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Stux posted:vector pst to the legs with that fire rate would absolutely wreck people I would argue that pst is usually better then ap 6.3 anyway. Most people wear level 4 and ap doesn't pen that reliably. aim for the legs and go for the higher flesh damage of pst.
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Cage Kicker posted:I would blow any amount of roubles if it meant sending another PMC back to the lobby. It's the principle. Their backpack may be full of bitcoins. It’s worth the risk.
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Neon Belly posted:Their backpack may be full of bitcoins. It’s worth the risk. Even if it's not bitcoins I bet they went through a few loot spots and filtered out the best stuff for me. Plus, insurance frauding my armor, backpack, helmet, and rig is profitable.
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I'm just starting out and I'm finding the small stash size a problem. Should I sell all the construction poo poo I'm hoarding? I know I'll need it soon, but until I open up the flea market I'm really pressed for space. Also, there's no reason to keep food/MRE/Water, right? It's plentiful enough that I can find it on the go?
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I just wanted to say I (completely accidentally) manage to extract alive for the first tine as a scav with a backpack full of DVD drives that wound up being worth like eight roubles and i am very proud of myself
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Canuckistan posted:I'm just starting out and I'm finding the small stash size a problem. Should I sell all the construction poo poo I'm hoarding? I know I'll need it soon, but until I open up the flea market I'm really pressed for space. With small stashes, try to put everything in you can into backpacks until you can either buy storage cases (lucky scav junk box, money case, magazine case, etc) or expand inventory through hideouts (takes a while) Some things are easier to find than others. Things like wrenches, screwdrivers, tape measures, batteries (AA and D cells, others are more rare), etc are very common and you can sell them if you need the space, you'll run into all of these frequently every raid if you look around even casually. If you want to upgrade the hideout, keep stuff like bolts, screws nuts(not bag of screws), nails, etc. If not, try to wait till level 10 to sell them as they are profitable and a little more uncommon. Canuckistan posted:Also, there's no reason to keep food/MRE/Water, right? It's plentiful enough that I can find it on the go? For the most part you wont need to keep food around unless you do a few raids in a row and need to re-up on eating and drinking. I almost never carry them INTO raids, I just use them to eat and drink before my next one when I need it, but I wouldn't say get rid of it outright, some food sells for a good amount on auction.
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Canuckistan posted:I'm just starting out and I'm finding the small stash size a problem. Should I sell all the construction poo poo I'm hoarding? I know I'll need it soon, but until I open up the flea market I'm really pressed for space. If you’re not doing it already, pull mags and pistol grips off all your guns so they are 1 row. Magazines are the other thing that can easily eat up a bunch of space - anything you can get from a vendor (or if you have flea market unlocked, any standard 20/30 round mags) can be sold to make space. If you have flea market and have a bunch of FIR “scav guns” like SKS, mosin, hunters, etc. just liquidate them now. The prices for stuff that commonly spawn on scavs stays cheap. Even without flea if you have a ton of these and can buy them from a vendor, dump it. Guns are cool but they’re one of the least efficient items to store in terms of cost per slot. If you’re really desperate, figure out which rigs and backpacks are positive storage space (more slots inside than they take up) and start stuffing them full of whatever trinkets you have laying around.
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stack backpacks, stuff rigs full of items to save space, a lot of rigs give you more slots than they themselves take up. you can check item on the wiki to see if youll need it, some are going to be worth just holding for quests, stuff like flash drives, gas ans, fuel conditioner, the big tushonka cans etc that arent all that common and youll need to have FIR to progress.
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am I wrong to think upgrading your stash size looks like a huge waste of resources? it's one extra row lol I think I'll keep my 3 million rubles and materials
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Pharmaskittle posted:am I wrong to think upgrading your stash size looks like a huge waste of resources? it's one extra row lol I think I'll keep my 3 million rubles and materials Level 4 stash is loving enormous compared to level 1 (like 3 times larger). I initially bought the standard edition and when I upgraded to EOD it felt like I was scrolling forever to get to the bottom of my stash. "So much room for activities"
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Pharmaskittle posted:am I wrong to think upgrading your stash size looks like a huge waste of resources? it's one extra row lol I think I'll keep my 3 million rubles and materials You're reading it wrong or something. Its 10 more rows per upgrade.
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Oh hey, to any other new people: the gunsmith quests are always worth doing as soon as you get them, I did a chain of them that bumped me up two and a half levels in less than an hour last night. You basically always recoup any money you spend on parts and there's almost always multiple ways to do them if you can't find the specific part a guide tells you you need. It's also a lot of fun playing gun barbie
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Slumpy posted:With small stashes, try to put everything in you can into backpacks until you can either buy storage cases (lucky scav junk box, money case, magazine case, etc) or expand inventory through hideouts (takes a while) If I’m doing back to back raids I’ll take enough food and drink in to top me off and eat it when I land for that extra little bit of exp and also to tempt fate as my highly-trained PMC killing machine makes all the loving noise in the world eating loving cheetos.
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I always bring food and drink to Woods and Reserve because those raids always seem to last forever. Those are also the maps you can probably most easily find that stuff on-site so don't listen to me.
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Pharmaskittle posted:Oh hey, to any other new people: the gunsmith quests are always worth doing as soon as you get them, I did a chain of them that bumped me up two and a half levels in less than an hour last night. You basically always recoup any money you spend on parts and there's almost always multiple ways to do them if you can't find the specific part a guide tells you you need. It's also a lot of fun playing gun barbie yep, 100% the only caveat I'd say is that you need to be cautious if you're playing early wipe because some of the parts are *highly* inflated on flea (either because the wiki recommends them or because they're actually unavoidably necessary) - the quests are still worth doing, and usually worth doing right then even at such inflated prices, but if Gunsmith Part 6 currently gives you like 1.3 million roubles in bitcoin you're going to want to weigh paying 1m+ roubles for the gun off flea to keep going and get that sweet xp / potentially accelerate access to higher level traders vs. waiting a bit to see if you can pull an R11 out of marked room/get far enough into Peacekeeper's quest line to unlock it as a vendor purchase/trade, or simply wait for the price to drop with demand (it's now ~5-600k) so that you can pocket the difference also a good idea to peruse the questline a bit so you don't inadvertently do something like sell a skeletonized AR-15 pistol grip or an olive drab Magpul M-LOK AFG to a vendor (if not FIR) or list it at a "normal" price on flea (if an item you're considering selling on flea has no one listing it but vendors it's often a sign to pause and consult external sources to see if you should be saving it for yourself or gouging the poo poo out of people) LGD fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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