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Don't forget our other favorite self-radicalized history podcaster https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1347334592517304321
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CommonShore posted:Any news on The History of Byzantium? I miss it too. He said it would be off until spring this year, so we still got a few months to wait.
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CommonShore posted:Also are there any good literary studies podcasts? Anything that's at least mid-weight scholarly? New Books Network literary studies sub-podcast. I haven't listened in a few years but the production wasn't great but the content was high level the last time I listened. https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id426178886
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evilpicard posted:New Books Network literary studies sub-podcast. I haven't listened in a few years but the production wasn't great but the content was high level the last time I listened. Thanks! I'll check it out! 100% of the time I'll take content over production, if I have to choose.
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CommonShore posted:Any news on The History of Byzantium? I plugged it earlier in the thread but the Canon Ball is a pretty good dive into Harold Bloom’s Western Canon. https://thecanonballpodcast.wordpress.com/
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Huge thumbs up to whoever recommended Floodlines a couple pages back, I finally got around to listening and it was great. Definitely worth the listen.
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Dan's released a new episode of Common Sense I don't think I can listen to what he's gonna say right now. Anyone listened to it yet?
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Quixotic1 posted:Dan's released a new episode of Common Sense I don't think I can listen to what he's gonna say right now. Anyone listened to it yet? On my playlist for tomorrow. If no-one else has reported back I'll let you know.
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I'm slightly curious and it's in my feed, but if you wanna take that bullet for us, I'll gladly wait.
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I assume most of the posters in this thread subscribe to Behind the Bastards, but Robert Evans just released a new podcast called "Behind the Insurrections" that's going to look at fascist uprisings. The first episode (about Mussolini's March on Rome) dropped today. Personally I'm a little hot and cold on BtB but I've come to really appreciate Robert's journalism on unrest and conflict over the last year or two so this looks like something I'll really love.
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Common Sense was more of the same centrist Carlin takes really. In a way equating the BLM rioters who got out of control with those that beached the capitol and again saying that we shouldn't be punching nazis because eye for an eye will just lead to more violence etc. I get what Dan is going for and in a way he is right that that isn't the way to tackle far right extremism as it is in the US atm but also I don't think this is the time to be focusing on that at all and instead he should have been addressing how loving terrifying the situation has become with these right wingers seeing as they nearly executed some politicians for God sake.
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I generally agree with the apolitical stuff Dan is saying (mobs get out of hand and can break away from their true cause, your side isn't destined to win a given struggle, people are too insulated in their chosen beliefs and it's tough to break out of it), but the equivalence between far-left and far-right protestors in his mind is super flawed and speaks to the power of the current right-wing media (or maybe the weakness/lack of true left-wing media). A bunch of leftist activists harassing the mayor of Portland at dinner is way different from an armed and somewhat coordinated break-in of the drat US Capitol and it's crazy to me that a guy who has spent years studying and discussing World War II can't see that. Or talking about how the presence of Antifa motivates the far right and makes people sympathetic to them...but talking about it in a way that makes it clear that he's fallen for the same propaganda he's warning about. E: maybe I'm just too plugged into online leftism here and outside of SA but it really brings me down when I see a historian talk about appeasing or balancing out with the current GOP/Trump cult as if there isn't great historical precedent about why that's a bad idea. Thank God for Mike Duncan and Patrick Wyman I guess. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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Dan's not a historian. He's a talk radio host (I think?) Not that being a historian would preclude having opinions like that.
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I think Mike Duncan put best the way the context changes everything in his thread. Like both the context of how as more facts come out it's more evident that there was an even more violent contingent of the mob that was directly out to hurt people, and the context that everything about the riot was entirely based on lies. https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1347120575605579776 Because if you zoom out from the specifics of how much coordination there was between leaders in office and the mob and whether there was a direct incitement to violence, the entire premise that they were there to protest over was a lie. There's been no significant evidence of voter fraud, and Trump had been saying he wouldn't accept electoral results where he didn't win since 2016. This was a premeditated and manufactured crisis from top to bottom.
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Dan's problem is the same problem he's always had with his Common Sense takes, which is that he's opining for a specific political climate that simply does not and cannot exist in this country right now, which makes his both-sidesing at the best naïve and at worst incredibly problematic. Dan genuinely believes that sensible people should be able to sit down for sensible negotiation and compromise, irrespective of the divide between their held political beliefs. Since extremism of any kind is diametrically opposed to such a worldview, he holds both the far left and the far right as equally culpable in political dysfunction. I disagree that he's fallen for right wing propaganda, I think he's simply clinging to an out of touch idealistic view of how he thinks politics should work.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think Mike Duncan put best the way the context changes everything in his thread. Like both the context of how as more facts come out it's more evident that there was an even more violent contingent of the mob that was directly out to hurt people, and the context that everything about the riot was entirely based on lies. Oh yeah I remember seeing that thread, thanks for the reminder.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think Mike Duncan put best the way the context changes everything in his thread. Like both the context of how as more facts come out it's more evident that there was an even more violent contingent of the mob that was directly out to hurt people, and the context that everything about the riot was entirely based on lies. Duncan is bang on here. I also think Trump's speech on the 6th is being weighted much too heavily. It's the months of speeches and tweets and lawsuits leading up to this moment. Still, I'm interested in what Carlin has to say; I frequently agree with him on such matters.
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It normally wouldn't count for here, but QAnon Anonymous did a 2-hour podcast generally covering the 6th and spoke to Elle Reeve, a reporter on the ground that day. It's a lot more serious than their usual episodes and if you're feeling a little out of the loop on QAnon's role in the whole thing it's a good way to catch up. Episode #125: Coup Anon. It also ends with a fun segment dunking on white supremacists' tattoos badly trying to take Norse mythology. It just made me think of it, since Duncan's point is pretty much where they are after following QAnon and the far right for a few years. The whole thing was built off of months of calculated lies and performances and an entire ecosystem that supported it. It didn't just spring out of Trump's call and until we really deal with that we're pretty much doomed to keep repeating it. Parakeet vs. Phone fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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Cockblocktopus posted:I assume most of the posters in this thread subscribe to Behind the Bastards, but Robert Evans just released a new podcast called "Behind the Insurrections" that's going to look at fascist uprisings. The first episode (about Mussolini's March on Rome) dropped today. Is it it's own podcast like "It Could Happen Here" or will it be popping up in the BtB main feed? I don't love every guest on the show but he's a fine writer and story-teller in his own right, and some of the subjects he covers are both eye-opening and jaw-dropping.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Is it it's own podcast like "It Could Happen Here" or will it be popping up in the BtB main feed? I don't love every guest on the show but he's a fine writer and story-teller in his own right, and some of the subjects he covers are both eye-opening and jaw-dropping. The first couple of episodes have been in the BtB feed. It'll be the same as Behind the Police earlier this year as well as Uprising, where it has a standalone feed as well as being in the BtB feed
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Spoeank posted:The first couple of episodes have been in the BtB feed. It'll be the same as Behind the Police earlier this year as well as Uprising, where it has a standalone feed as well as being in the BtB feed Cool ok. Behind the Police was real good too. Only one I haven't listened to is the bits on Portland itself. Though I plan to get there. I finally got to 2020 in the archives and so I'll be caught up before long.
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webmeister posted:Fall of Civilizations podcast has a new episode up as well. 3.5 hours on the Inca This is extremely good
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Lawman 0 posted:This is extremely good Why is it so good? I mean, I agree completely, but what is the motivation to release a free podcast of this quality with this level of production value and no advertising? Amazing.
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Dr. Lucien Sanchez posted:Why is it so good? I mean, I agree completely, but what is the motivation to release a free podcast of this quality with this level of production value and no advertising? Amazing. It does make about 10k a month off it's patreon so it has some money behind it
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New releases are seldom, but each are so well made that they're worth a re-listen. Meanwhile, this Carlin guy... I'm starting to think you could make a drinking game over how often he cites a right wing crackpot as his sources.
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Appoda posted:New releases are seldom, but each are so well made that they're worth a re-listen. Yeah, he used to create amazing content 10 years ago when there wasn't much competition, but these days the overall quality of podcasts has increased so much, and he hasn't been able to keep up.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Yeah, he used to create amazing content 10 years ago when there wasn't much competition, but these days the overall quality of podcasts has increased so much, and he hasn't been able to keep up. He's like an old heavyweight boxer. If an alien came to earth it would see that he used to be fun to listen to but eventually just took too many blows to the head.
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kanonvandekempen posted:Yeah, he used to create amazing content 10 years ago when there wasn't much competition, but these days the overall quality of podcasts has increased so much, and he hasn't been able to keep up. Idk I think the biggest issue with his content is its length, as well as the waiting time between the episodes. For many people, podcasts nowadays occupy the same space as TV shows; they want bite-sized regularity instead of mega-chunks that drop whenever. Switching to a weekly format that's shorter and more to the point could improve things. That being said, his "maybe the truth is in the middle" shtick is something you shrug your shoulder at in safer times, but everyone's become more politically interested and educated these past years. Now it just comes off as intellectual laziness.
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Carlin's always been one of those dads who got way too into the History Channel, for better or for worse. He uses the line about not being a historian as a bit of a shield maybe, but I think it's also just him being honest about being an entertainer and not actually having much interest in keeping up with new scholarship or whatever. As for his contemporary politics, while he reflexively goes to both sides arguments, at least he was anti-Trump, which is probably better than you can say for most 55 year old history dads.
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It doesn't help when he when spends several years on an extremely well worn and drops the interesting lens (the Japanese perspective) a third of the way in
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webmeister posted:Fall of Civilizations podcast has a new episode up as well. 3.5 hours on the Inca I the part where he talks about the imposing structure known as the puma’s head or in their language “sexay wo-man”
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The biggest problem with Carlin is is output just isn’t very good. I listened to his mongol empire one and I didn’t feel like I learned much from it. Considering how long winded he is that’s really bad
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Is there good stuff about the Mongols? Also the Taklamakan Civilizations (I liked the CHP's stuff on it)?
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Ghengis Khan by Frank McLynn is good and has a version on audible. It goes into depth about the formation of the mongols how they governed and even gives quick histories of some of the people they would go in to conquer. It’s also pretty long but dense as gently caress
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Baron La Croix posted:Any good podcasts covering Aum Shinrikyo? May I recommend the aum shinrikyo episode of last podcast on the left. It's not scholarly at all, and your gonna find out real quick whether or not you can stand henry, but it was hilarious.
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The Glumslinger posted:It doesn't help when he when spends several years on an extremely well worn and drops the interesting lens (the Japanese perspective) a third of the way in Yeah it's this, WW2 has been done to death but a retelling that focuses specifically on the war from the Japanese perspective is interesting. Everything up to Pearl Harbor in Supernova was interesting, but as soon as it happens Carlin shifts back to the same old and tired MURICA OOH RAH poo poo you've heard a billion times.
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Baron La Croix posted:Any good podcasts covering Aum Shinrikyo? Cult Podcast has a good set of episodes on them. Much like LPOTL, it really depends on whether the hosts' goofball sense of humor is your thing (though at least you don't get stuff like Zebrowski's problematic rear end Asian accent)
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