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DorianGravy posted:I felt pretty let down by King of Monsters. One of the most compelling aspects of Godzilla (in some of the movies) is that he is presented as a force of nature. The idea is captured really well in this teaser trailer: https://vimeo.com/146985673 (which, to be fair, the 2014 Godzilla didn't quite live up to either.) So, to have King of Monsters center around a device which controls the monsters really undermines that aspect. They use it in the very first scene of Ghidorah, too. It turns the whole movie into a family squabble rather than the sort of disaster movie that it should be. I'm guessing they had that pulled from the internet because it contains a monster that doesn't appear in the actual movie but I think it's the best trailer of all time. I'm not much of a fan of the 2014 movie but I don't think any movie would've lived up to that trailer.
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Their first proper teaser was just as good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjKO10hKtYw
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DorianGravy posted:I felt pretty let down by King of Monsters. One of the most compelling aspects of Godzilla (in some of the movies) is that he is presented as a force of nature. The idea is captured really well in this teaser trailer: https://vimeo.com/146985673 (which, to be fair, the 2014 Godzilla didn't quite live up to either.) So, to have King of Monsters center around a device which controls the monsters really undermines that aspect. They use it in the very first scene of Ghidorah, too. It turns the whole movie into a family squabble rather than the sort of disaster movie that it should be. No movie was ever going to live up to that trailer. They did eventually use the scrapped monsters that we see there in KotM I think. The HALO jump teaser is pretty damned good too. All of the promo there was solid. God, the exploding airplane dominos shot in G14 is so loving good, I need to go back and watch that again. The movie sells extremely well the fact that humans are nothing in the face of natural forces, it's about as good of a climate change allegory as we're ever gonna get on film. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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If you watched the credits of KoM you find put that the titans have reversed all ecological problems and the earth is doing great. There is a stinger as well.
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I love Godzilla 2014, but having watched it again the other day (because I'm going to finally watch KotM and wanted a refresher), I had forgotten how much it teases you with monster fights. It keeps almost showing you Godzilla fighting the MUTOs. First Godzilla encounters one, the fight begins, and then it immediately cuts to the news footage of the aftermath. Then, later, they start to fight again, Elizabeth Olsen's character is running away from them, and she's behind a door that closes just as they start to come to blows. You don't really see a real proper monster fight until near the end of the movie. At which point, hooboy do you ever get the goods. But it's downright comical how they keep it away from you until then. Again, I love it, and it does a good job of selling the human element until then. And the movie is gorgeous. I just found that fact funny.
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thrawn527 posted:I love Godzilla 2014, but having watched it again the other day (because I'm going to finally watch KotM and wanted a refresher), I had forgotten how much it teases you with monster fights. It keeps almost showing you Godzilla fighting the MUTOs. First Godzilla encounters one, the fight begins, and then it immediately cuts to the news footage of the aftermath. Then, later, they start to fight again, Elizabeth Olsen's character is running away from them, and she's behind a door that closes just as they start to come to blows. You don't really see a real proper monster fight until near the end of the movie. At which point, hooboy do you ever get the goods. But it's downright comical how they keep it away from you until then. The cut from Godzilla staring down the MUTO at Hawaii, to the kid watching it on TV with Godzilla flailing around with a MUTO stuck on his head like an idiot was loving hilarious when I saw it in the cinema.
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People were whooping and cheering at the end of g14 when godzilla grabbed the MUTO by the jaws and laser-barfed into its face. As annoying as the fight cutaways were in that movie, it did lead to an incredibly cathartic climax In fact I remember screaming at that part "loving finally"
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GoldStandardConure posted:The cut from Godzilla staring down the MUTO at Hawaii, to the kid watching it on TV with Godzilla flailing around with a MUTO stuck on his head like an idiot was loving hilarious when I saw it in the cinema. Legendary Godzilla is essentially Toothless from How To Train Your Dragon.
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Killing off Cranston and sticking you with cardboard man severely hurt the movie for me. Actually surprised how likable his character was in TENET since normally I can't stand him.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Killing off Cranston and sticking you with cardboard man severely hurt the movie for me. Actually surprised how likable his character was in TENET since normally I can't stand him.  I saw Godzilla 2014 with some friends and cardboard man’s pathetic attempt to have a heartfelt call to his wife made me do a full Max Cady guffaw that caused said friends to look at me like I had gone insane.
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Cardboard Man was in Tenet? I didn't even notice him
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thrawn527 posted:I love Godzilla 2014, but having watched it again the other day (because I'm going to finally watch KotM and wanted a refresher), I had forgotten how much it teases you with monster fights. It keeps almost showing you Godzilla fighting the MUTOs. First Godzilla encounters one, the fight begins, and then it immediately cuts to the news footage of the aftermath. Then, later, they start to fight again, Elizabeth Olsen's character is running away from them, and she's behind a door that closes just as they start to come to blows. You don't really see a real proper monster fight until near the end of the movie. At which point, hooboy do you ever get the goods. But it's downright comical how they keep it away from you until then. I assume this was for the same reason that you don't see the Xenomorph much in Alien, or the ghost in many horror movies, until late in the movies: by building suspense and letting your imagination fill in some of the blanks, it creates a more powerful impression. Whether or not it works in this movie, it's difficult to say. I'd say that the movie's bigger problem, as Groovelord mentioned above, was killing off its most interesting character early on.
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Zzulu posted:Cardboard Man was in Tenet? I didn't even notice him This is cowboy poo poo guy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VIZ89FEjYI I am still very down for this.
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Threaded Cane, the choice of the gentleman.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Threaded Cane, the choice of the gentleman. actually its byleths sword from super smash bros ultimate
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scary ghost dog posted:actually its byleths sword from super smash bros ultimate Actually it's the sword from Brotherhood of the Wolf.
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Ivy from Soul Calibur had it first.
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They gave the monkey an axe
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Fartington Butts posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VIZ89FEjYI Same. The girl in the white top reminds me a lot of Sonnie, from the Sonnie’s Edge short that came out with Love Death and Robots on netflix. I thought it was just me at first, but my wife made the same comment.
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wuffles posted:They gave the monkey an axe They gave him a flying guillotine in Skull Island, an axe is a step down for him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtmeVAJwwI
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Fartington Butts posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VIZ89FEjYI Looks like fun! I like how energetic the trailer is.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They gave him a flying guillotine in Skull Island, an axe is a step down for him How did I forget that. Probably because there were so many fantastic parts of that movie. I’m afraid kong vs godzilla is going to be more king of monsters than it will be skull island unfortunately.
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Fartington Butts posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VIZ89FEjYI Hopefully that baby at the start doesn't have a big role here. Seems like that could get annoying easily.
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wuffles posted:I’m afraid kong vs godzilla is going to be more king of monsters than it will be skull island unfortunately. It'll definitely fall somewhere in the middle but I'm guessing that Kong will get more of a protagonist role in this one, just based on the fact that they've included an orphan kid who has a special bond with him who will no doubt be used to outright describe his state of mind for the slower audience members who struggle to pick up the non-verbal cues.
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teagone posted:Actually it's the sword from Brotherhood of the Wolf. That's not the only thing Bloodborne copied from that movie.
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Listen if we’re all going to be asking for stupid poo poo then I hope Godzilla propels itself with his atomic blast to catch up to Kong.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Listen if we’re all going to be asking for stupid poo poo then I hope Godzilla propels itself with his atomic blast to catch up to Kong. Don't you mean this? https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ChubbyDemandingKarakul-mobile.mp4
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teagone posted:Don't you mean this? This would also be acceptable.
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For real though how would Kong even stand a chance against Godzilla? Heavily armored and nuclear fire breath? C'mon
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My hot take is that King Kong is boring as hell from a creature design perspective.
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Fried Watermelon posted:For real though how would Kong even stand a chance against Godzilla? Heavily armored and nuclear fire breath? C'mon Street smarts and dirty tricks  I mean Kong already killed a giant lizard in his own movie. He did so basically by using tools a lot
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Fried Watermelon posted:For real though how would Kong even stand a chance against Godzilla? Heavily armored and nuclear fire breath? C'mon How does the fight not end at the moment from the trailer where Godzilla nukes that aircraft carrier, forcing Kong to jump into the ocean miles from anything? Either Kong is a really strong swimmer or the giant lizard makes some tactical oversights.
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Kong can probably stand with water to his ankles while in the middle of the ocean, just like Godzilla does it.
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Each Kaiju will have a Special Child with whom they share a mysterious bond with who they must protect and emote with, Godzilla is forced to temporarily retreat when his Special Child starts to cry or something.
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Mat Cauthon posted:How does the fight not end at the moment from the trailer where Godzilla nukes that aircraft carrier, forcing Kong to jump into the ocean miles from anything? hes very buoyant
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Mat Cauthon posted:How does the fight not end at the moment from the trailer where Godzilla nukes that aircraft carrier, forcing Kong to jump into the ocean miles from anything? Maybe Godzilla is less interested in Kong and is on a mission. And Kong can’t hurt him in the water. Like why waste time fighting him when Evil Megacorp is doing bad stuff he has to stop.
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Mat Cauthon posted:How does the fight not end at the moment from the trailer where Godzilla nukes that aircraft carrier, forcing Kong to jump into the ocean miles from anything? They start the fight on a giant container ship which gets blown up (it has a red hull and shipping containers scattered across the deck) and then they move across to an aircraft carrier (it has a grey hull and has jets and helicopters scattered over the deck)
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The tectonic plates are a series of carriers, if you think about it.
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