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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress do you use excel for if not to do maths automatically? ukmt.xlsx and track and trace databases by all accounts..... page snipe! The next fraction after 355/113 that approximates pi with similar precision is 52163/16604. Averaging the two gives you 3.14159265386526 -- precise to the 9th decimal. The equivalent fraction is (gasp!) 11788839/3752504. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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I've gotten my last promotion pretty much off the back of being able to make Pivot tables/charts in a couple of.minutes and colour them nicely. Even in science-focused companies with data visualization departments, the majority of people understandably don't have a clue
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Jan 27, 2021 18:33
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OwlFancier posted:... why? It's 3.141, 3.1 would be more accurate..? It divides up nicely. A full circle is taken to be 6400 miliradians, then 3200 for South, 1600 E, 800 NE etc. The inaccuracy is OK given the level of precision you can get out of a prismatic compass while being shot at. Russia simply uses
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Jan 27, 2021 18:35
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress do you use excel for if not to do maths automatically? In effect, these people use it as a stand-alone Microsoft Word table program. I think it's just because the formulas aren't visible unless you click on a cell, so many people don't actually know they exist.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:39
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Comrade Fakename posted:We're now losing significantly more, every day, than the single worst day for deaths during the Blitz.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:41
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In my experience as a helldesk guy, .xlsx docs are anything the users wants them to be. Usually databases
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Jan 27, 2021 18:41
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Gort posted:The skill I see adults needing and not possessing most these days is basic spreadsheets. Nothing fancy, just being able to do adding, subtraction, multiplication, sums and averages in a spreadsheet. Maybe a lookup table if you wanna show off. On a Teams call recently I watched the statistician for my study operate the windows calculator by using the mouse to click the number buttons onscreen.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:44
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TACD posted:The more people die the more a certain kind of person is going to swell with pride at this comparison How long before we hear "We didn't complain about the government during the pandemic, we just put our heads down and got on with things" when someone criticises the tories during the next epic national disaster knox_harrington posted:On a Teams call recently I watched the statistician for my study operate the windows calculator by using the mouse to click the number buttons onscreen. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAA
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Wachter posted:.xlsx docs are anything the users wants them to be. *looks at his 2011 cover letter generator* e: no wait, i think this is my favourite thing that shouldn't be an xlsx but is  Microplastics fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 18:44
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Thirty years ago i could do all the math to get a circuit board flowing nicely, was able to do some of the simpler hexadecimal calculations in my head.. now i have to get the calculator out to add up my shopping. 
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Jan 27, 2021 18:49
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knox_harrington posted:On a Teams call recently I watched the statistician for my study operate the windows calculator by using the mouse to click the number buttons onscreen. Lmao game over man, game over
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TACD posted:The more people die the more a certain kind of person is going to swell with pride at this comparison Nazis?
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My wife uses Excel for crochet patterns. Makes all the cells small squares, then colours them in. Seems to work. (she also uses Excel for its intended purpose at work)
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Bobstar posted:My wife uses Excel for crochet patterns. Makes all the cells small squares, then colours them in. Seems to work. At work (about 15 years ago), my department did loads of analysis and people getting our reports wanted more geographical information in terms of a pretty pic of an infrastructure map with coloured blobs on relating to different things. My team spent ages setting it up on excel - background of a map of our region, all the cells fixed sizes, bazillions of conditional formatting and lookup tables. Other regions were impressed and so I organised a workshop at HQ and analysts from around the country came to see how we did it and to practise doing it for themselves. Towards the end of the day, some senior HQ bodies walked in and said "we had no idea you were doing this, we're working on a project with a bunch of overpaid consultants to do a GIS system". Well noone had told us - the (assets not people) performance analysts from around the whole of the UK, nor consulted us (the people the regions were all looking to to produce this). Fkin pillocks. As so often happens, with the right resources, we could have produced it inhouse without the company paying 'consultants' to do it but so many companies totally neglect the inhouse talent. And don't get me started on when I worked in the NHS and it was divying up into trusts and I had a visit from a consultant one day from one of the new trusts whose property portfolio I had been managing, consultant quizzed me for 3 hours (I had no idea why she was visiting before she arrived), wrote up what I had said into a fancy report and charged the trust who'd commissioned it.... £50000.... (this was 25 years ago!). I said to them, for the cost of one day of my pay and a 60p floppy disk (because they were still floppies then), you could have had that and saved over £49k. Oh - they said - but noone believes inhouse staff, only consultants. (Even inhouse staff who got distinctions in their postgrad estate management diplomas unlike the Oxbridge-educated smooth haired, shoulder padded blondes with razor sharp perfect manicures from Debenham Tewson Chinnocks etc doing the same course and being charged out at £500 per day and who didn't get distinctions.) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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knox_harrington posted:On a Teams call recently I watched the statistician for my study operate the windows calculator by using the mouse to click the number buttons onscreen. I do that.
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Jan 27, 2021 19:33
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Calculators, phones, and numpads need to agree on a standard layout.
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I hate excel because for so many people it's the only thing they know how to use and they are so pathologically afraid of learning a new system they try to hamfistedly shove everything into excel. Just beating my head bloody against the brick wall of people trying to make a spreadsheet be something other than a spreadsheet instead of using the actual tools designed to do the thing they want to do.
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feedmegin posted:I used it a few years ago for both rangefinding and figuring out where to put the legs on my spider robot. Luv 2 inverse kinematics I have a similar story where I was dossing around in French a fair bit and had to take a remedial exam after summer to be able to continue with it. But then my parents paid for a private tutor (yes privilege and all that) who was actually French and had a degree in linguistics and a decent amount of teaching experience and in those 3 months I've learned more than I did in 6 hours a week for 4 years. Then when I took the exam which was in front of a panel of three teachers, two of whom never taught me before, I did so well they actually asked me if French was something I'd like to pursue at uni. It was bit of a farce tbf. Maybe also a bit of an indictment of our French classes but obviously the format where you can directly get help and explanation and have chats about films/books/politics or whatever you want with a native speaker is not really comparable to standard classroom instruction. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Guavanaut posted:Calculators, phones, and numpads need to agree on a standard layout. that could be your legacy imagine how that would feel
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Guavanaut posted:Calculators, phones, and numpads need to agree on a standard layout. Or everything needs to let me set them to the numpad layout.
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*points at bird* Numpad!
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I do my entire job as a games systems designer in excel. Pretty much build the entire game economy, all levelling, stats, equipment, xp curves, shops, items, enemies, balancing etc. out of excel. The entire 'gameplay' gets simplified to a weighted random button that you just click to run a single cycle that then spits you out the other side with a bit more xp or currency to spend in a shop. The weighting takes into account levels, difficulty etc and I usually take account for different player types, payers, non payers etc as well by having different initial settings. If you can make the excel fun for an artist or something to collect a load of fake pokemon with different coloured borders and level up numbers next to them and you find them playing it at lunch , You've got a good enough metagame.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I've gotten my last promotion pretty much off the back of being able to make Pivot tables/charts in a couple of.minutes and colour them nicely. Even in science-focused companies with data visualization departments, the majority of people understandably don't have a clue I just discovered pivot tables, pivot charts and slicers. My mind was blown at how easy it made visualising data.
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Our helldesk guys are so paranoid about us using anything that may allow remote code injection we end up using excel for a lot of small tools. Leading to what would be reasonably quick javascript/python stufff taking minutes as poo poo loads and processes on excel. And they won't make our tools as that would mean they would have to maintain them and so who's paying for that? Some of our excel tools are 10 years old.
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Guavanaut posted:Calculators, phones, and numpads need to agree on a standard layout. 
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happyhippy posted:
That would qualify as a cutting edge process in my company and would be largely distrusted and all of the SOPs would still refer to the old paper way of doing things. I think one of my report generating platforms is about 20 years old, and the clinical trial documentation system is being retired this year but apparently predates Win3.1.
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https://jsfiddle.net/BurpmanJunior/w1mvkjjj/
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I feel like I live in the opposite land because where I work keeps constantly making new tools, I think we've gone through about four or five different types of software to do the same thing in as many years. And yet they can't spend five minutes to fix formatting errors in reports that I have to fill in every week.
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Last week I tried to register an account with Southern Water, and they have date of birth as a mandatory field. The field does not allow you to type the date in manually, but rather select it from a pop-up calendar. A pop-up calendar that only has a button to navigate backwards one month at a time. 400 clicks later, I hit "next" and they rejected my proposed password and redirected me back to the form, with the date of birth field unpopulated.
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Jan 27, 2021 20:40
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This is good but the button doesn't randomly switch places with the reset button
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Quantum mechanics absolutely play a role in cellular respiration and it is god drat fascinating One quantum/biology thing I find faintly amusing is Fluorescence Resonance Energy Transfer, and how it's mega important in all sorts of biochemical tests. But every time I see it discussed it's "this works because of FRET, don't loving ask me how". It's like a big concrete wall where biology becomes chemistry and therefore not our problem.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:One quantum/biology thing I find faintly amusing is Fluorescence Resonance Energy Transfer, and how it's mega important in all sorts of biochemical tests. But every time I see it discussed it's "this works because of FRET, don't loving ask me how". It's like a big concrete wall where biology becomes chemistry and therefore not our problem. "Don't fret about it" was right there.
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endlessmonotony posted:"Don't fret about it" was right there. Somehow I have never noticed this. Dear god.
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Excel is good for writing crosswords in
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I use excel to do sweepstakes when there's some kind of sports thing on
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If you can use pivot tables then you can practice power query in Excel. DAX is actually not too bad to use for calculations. And it’s got time series analysis down pat. From there you download PowerBI for free and do even fancier dashboards and poo poo.
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Total Meatlove posted:If you can use pivot tables then you can practice power query in Excel. DAX is actually not too bad to use for calculations. And it’s got time series analysis down pat. From there you download PowerBI for free and do even fancier dashboards and poo poo. What's the main advantage of PowerBi over Excel for dashboards? I'm teaching my year 11s how to make a dashboard (hence why I learnt how to use pivot tables + sliders) and it seems to do it so nicely. I'd been thinking of using PowerBi as I'd heard of it, but given everyone is at home and some are on Macs it's a non starter.
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PowerBi sounds like a Tom of Finland artbook but with many different sexes and genders in it and if I find out it's some analytics utility I'm going to be disappointed.
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Sad Panda posted:What's the main advantage of PowerBi over Excel for dashboards? I'm teaching my year 11s how to make a dashboard (hence why I learnt how to use pivot tables + sliders) and it seems to do it so nicely. I'd been thinking of using PowerBi as I'd heard of it, but given everyone is at home and some are on Macs it's a non starter. The variety of visualisations, publishing to PowerBI as a service in the cloud for access and sharing etc, and the ability to integrate R and Python. Outside of that, it does the same modelling of tables and query editing that Excel does but makes it a lot more user friendly. Like a 1/10 to a 7/10 experience. E: in your pivot tables, have you been building in the Excel data model and creating relationships between the tables? Total Meatlove fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Sad Panda posted:What's the main advantage of PowerBi over Excel for dashboards? I'm teaching my year 11s how to make a dashboard (hence why I learnt how to use pivot tables + sliders) and it seems to do it so nicely. I'd been thinking of using PowerBi as I'd heard of it, but given everyone is at home and some are on Macs it's a non starter. The UI is designed to show tables and graphs so its easier to build the final dashboard together rather than spending ages lining everything up from several different graphs and filters and disabling the scroll bars. It also allows better connections to databases so it's better if you've got large tables that you want to bring bits of it through. If you're teaching people how to present data though then there's not a massive benefit to it.
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