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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Anyways, this is better than expected THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU WAX-SKINNED DUST-BREATHING CUMLICH WHOSE SKIN RESEMBLES A SCALE MAP OF THE OCEAN FLOOR
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hapsby posted:i did in fact read your post wrong. thank you for clarifying your case, i really do appreciate it, friend. I believe there are many people who identify as belonging to one or more of those groups that have genuinely progressive inclinations that should be nurtured and subsequently expanded. I don't think those inclinations should be condemned for merely being progressive as opposed to being revolutionary.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I believe there are many people who identify as belonging to one or more of those groups that have genuinely progressive inclinations that should be nurtured and subsequently expanded. I don't think those inclinations should be condemned for merely being progressive as opposed to being revolutionary. i think tainrunner is hilarious, but i agree with you. if we don't reach out to progressives, then it's going to be hard to expand our base or educate people. idk before covid i did a lot of organizing in my (very rural area) but luring them in with Fun Gun Times and then dumping theory on them in the shooting range. my county went for Bernie in the primary. again--Taintrunner owns because he says what i feel. but irl I'm trying to get rural rednecks to listen to me, and so i must be kinder, more understanding.
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The taintrunner brand of politics is the enemy of actual leftism because the main requirement is getting so mad you refuse to do anything at all in case a socdem benefits
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Jan 27, 2021 20:58
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some plague rats posted:The taintrunner brand of politics is the enemy of actual leftism because the main requirement is getting so mad you refuse to do anything at all in case a socdem benefits Do you honestly believe that aggro posting on a niche web forum with a $10 pay wall is that much of a threat to the movement? If one poster acting as the channel for our collective frustration in a dark cave somewhere out of the way is that harmful to a movement, maybe the movement has some other internal structural integrity issues that need sorting out?
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Jan 27, 2021 21:04
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I demand more posting combat
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Treating Taintrunner as either some messianic figure or as the Posting Devil is equally weird.
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Jan 27, 2021 21:06
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Buddykins posted:I demand more posting combat the ancient tradition of trial by post
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Jan 27, 2021 21:08
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some plague rats posted:The taintrunner brand of politics is the enemy of actual leftism because the main requirement is getting so mad you refuse to do anything at all in case a socdem benefits yes, the man who gets angry because the people in charge are twiddling their thumbs in their asses instead of playing hardball is the enemy
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Jan 27, 2021 21:09
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some plague rats posted:The taintrunner brand of politics is the enemy of actual leftism because the main requirement is getting so mad you refuse to do anything at all in case a socdem benefits yeah but this isn't serious debate, it's shitposting with some truth and knowledge one can glean out of it. e:fb
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Jan 27, 2021 21:11
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docbeard posted:Treating Taintrunner as either some messianic figure or as the Posting Devil is equally weird. yeah this haha. he's a dude with a fun gimmick and more money than any of us could ever fathom lol. he's just a poster and should be treated accordingly
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Jan 27, 2021 21:13
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I don't think taintrunner himself is harmful to leftism, but the vocal minority of extremely online leftists who are trying to be Communist Maddox very much are, as a collective.
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Jan 27, 2021 21:21
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taintrunner give me money please
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Jan 27, 2021 21:21
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the best thing that could happen for the left was their online spaces becoming insanely aggressive and unpleasant, the entire movement needs to log the gently caress off, every joule of energy spent in building anything online is energy wasted
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Jan 27, 2021 21:22
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Buddykins posted:taintrunner give me money please this it's buddy's birthday i think, and also i'm cool. send us $2k, sweet runner of taints
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Jan 27, 2021 21:25
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Epic High Five posted:the best thing that could happen for the left was their online spaces becoming insanely aggressive and unpleasant, the entire movement needs to log the gently caress off, every joule of energy spent in building anything online is energy wasted lotta people i know on tumblr (i'll take the L for this, but my friends and i had nowhere else to go after lj) went through exactly this. i watched someone go from "these snake emojis are misogynist!!!" to spamming warren with them herself in like a week, because I gave her info.
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Jan 27, 2021 21:28
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Doctor Jeep posted:yes, the man who gets angry because the people in charge are twiddling their thumbs in their asses instead of playing hardball is the enemy The people in charge are twiddling their thumbs, I'll show them what for by twiddling my thumbs in an extremely boring aggressive way
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Jan 27, 2021 22:15
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some plague rats posted:The people in charge are twiddling their thumbs, I'll show them what for by twiddling my thumbs in an extremely boring aggressive way this is like some weird, star wars jedi poo poo oh no, taintrunner is mad and says angry things, this is bad because and if you disagree then you're a republican thank you for coming to my ted talk you don't know what people are doing when they're not online (though the argument might be made that if you really care, you could get super creepy with it, analyze posting times and dates, and figure out just how much time someone is spending on SA, but then I'd have concerns over YOUR priorities/stability anyway) so i think that's a pretty worthless thing to complain about
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Lib and let die posted:Do you honestly believe that aggro posting on a niche web forum with a $10 pay wall is that much of a threat to the movement? TR specifically is not the issue, he's just a perfect example of it: a loudmouth do-nothing dickhead who spends his time desperately decrying every action the left takes because his material comfort depends on our failure. He has the time and resources to make a huge difference to a lot of people but he doesn't want to so he makes out that he would be onboard except for this, and this other thing, and so on, an endless list of grievances that end up so abstracted from basic every day solidarity that he ends up refusing to, for example, donate to anti-eviction funds because the someone at the DSA didn't condemn Joe Biden. Again, not saying TR is the root of all evil, he's just a bad poster. But I keep seeing his mentality again and again in every left action I'm involved in and it drives me up the loving wall
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some plague rats posted:TR specifically is not the issue, he's just a perfect example of it: a loudmouth do-nothing dickhead who spends his time desperately decrying every action the left takes because his material comfort depends on our failure. He has the time and resources to make a huge difference to a lot of people but he doesn't want to so he makes out that he would be onboard except for this, and this other thing, and so on, an endless list of grievances that end up so abstracted from basic every day solidarity that he ends up refusing to, for example, donate to anti-eviction funds because the someone at the DSA didn't condemn Joe Biden. Again, not saying TR is the root of all evil, he's just a bad poster. But I keep seeing his mentality again and again in every left action I'm involved in and it drives me up the loving wall lol wait really
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Lib and let die posted:this is like some weird, star wars jedi poo poo You're being a really weird little creep in defense of taintrunner
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Jan 27, 2021 22:25
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:lol wait really That wasn't referring to him, that was another TR type- all aggro, all condemnation, no help. I doubt he donated a red cent but I don't want to start mythologizing his crimes
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some plague rats posted:That wasn't referring to him, that was another TR type- all aggro, all condemnation, no help. I doubt he donated a red cent but I don't want to start mythologizing his crimes Might wanna clarify that in the post because hoo boy
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some plague rats posted:You're being a really weird little creep in defense of taintrunner i mean, i like taintrunner's angry posting. i'd love to run around unapologetically telling the worst d&d scolds to go gently caress themselves, but for whatever reason i give more of a poo poo about my ability to  so it's fun and relieving to see someone that's willing to go to posting jail for 6 hours to say what we're all thinking, or wishing we could say. our representatives don't seem angry about the horrors the working class suffers every day, our senators don't seem angry about the horrors the working class suffers every day, our president doesn't seem angry about the horrors the working class suffers every day, and there are a lot of working class people angry about the lack of anger. seeing anyone express the feelings we/i feel feels good, and validating, and like you're not alone on an island and crazy because the people that are lauded for their ability to manage the world aren't angry and holy poo poo, am I crazy?
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Buddykins posted:truly, this is, the shitpost thread There's a huge difference between shitposts and lovely posts
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Oh yeah, it's because that's every bully's defense no one likes you
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Raskolnikov38 posted:no one likes you seriously
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I have been unclear with my words. Let me explicitly say: dunking on libs owns and is good to do. That's not what taintrunner does. No one would have a problem with Taintrunner if that's what he did. Taintrunner posts as loudly and angrily as possible to project strength and get positive attention. He's not doing it for any cause other than himself.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I have been unclear with my words. Let me explicitly say: dunking on libs owns and is good to do. Taintrunner is good and cool, you are not
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Xaris posted:love to be a crow flying around a burning building squawking at firefighters scrambling to do work screaming at them "put out the fire put out the fire put out the fire" caw caw squawk caw Crows can't talk, idiot
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I don't think taintrunner himself is harmful to leftism, but the vocal minority of extremely online leftists who are trying to be Communist Maddox very much are, as a collective. when confronted by a dumb shithead like Vaush, should you: a. be nice to them, since they’re “fellow leftists” and pushing them out would be harmful b. ignore them and let them spew poo poo without ever being challenged or repudiated c. tell them to gently caress off loudly and often for supporting a rapist quit being a pussy and say some mean words. express your feelings. progress is impossible if avoiding struggle is your only goal.
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Fly Molo posted:when confronted by a dumb shithead like Vaush, should you: Also the words "confronted by" are doing a lot of work there. SpiderHyphenMan has issued a correction as of 23:53 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Iron Crowned posted:Crows can't talk, idiot
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Iron Crowned posted:Crows can't talk, idiot noted animal expert iron crowned
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I have no idea who Vaush is. are people on the left allowed to have standards for behavior? and say gently caress off to people who break those standards? the full extent of your complaint seems to be “using mean words is bad and alienates people!” so what alternative do you suggest? if, say, someone nominally on the left gets outed as a sexpest, or someone else says real leftists should support drone striking weddings? nicely spend hours explaining how their argument lacks rational merit? ignore them and let them spew harassment and misinformation? or call them a piece of poo poo until they gently caress off? if you’re not willing to tell wreckers and fuckheads to gently caress off, you’re automatically ceding the discussion space to them without a fight in the name of avoiding (useful, necessary) conflict. lobotomy molo has issued a correction as of 00:03 on Jan 28, 2021 |
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Fly Molo posted:when confronted by a dumb shithead like Vaush, should you: Why is it whenever an objection based in real life to people like Taintrunner gets raised it immediately gets turned into "aaah but have you considered this [extremely online thing]?" I don't think he's bad because he says mean words online. I think he's bad because that's all he does, and he has the capacity to do a lot more but doesn't want to, and it's a bit rich (lol) for him to decry everyone who actually does things. Basically I'm a white woman on twitter who got dumped and he's my Bernie Sanders
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