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stev posted:In my mind season 1 was always one of the weakest - cheesier music choices, much more of a sitcommy pastiche feel, wacky 'my family's trying to kill me, but which one?' plot. Yeah the first episode very much felt like "Goodfellas: The Show" and I'm grateful that it didn't even take a full season to shift away from that. Not that Goodfellas: The Show wouldn't be entertaining, but it would certainly not be what the sopranos became
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Yeah, every time I rewatch the pilot all I can think is,"This show desperately wants to be Goodfellas" and, as wonderful as that movie is, I'm so glad how quickly they pulled away from that. Imagine if they'd kept the gimmick of Tony's therapy being a framing device that allowed for him giving narration over scenes.
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The thing to keep in mind about the pilot is that it was filmed in 1997, so they had a full year between getting picked up by HBO and starting the filming of the rest of the season. That is a lot of time to adjust things. David Chase's backup plan was to get some more money and shoot an extra 45 minutes to turn it into a movie instead. In which case, it would have been a lesser Goodfellas I guess.
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Dawgstar posted:I think the peak (or possibly nadir) was 'A Hit Is A Hit' which really did feel like a sitcom with a TV Guide blurb like 'Ade wants to go into the music biz with the help of a gansta rapper, Chris disapproves; Tony feels used by his new non-mafia friends; Carmela plays the stock market.' It doesn't have anything to do with the two episodes it's in the middle of, with 'Boca' giving us the catalyst of Tony finding out Uncle Junior whistles to the wheat fields and 'Nobody Knows Anything' where they think Pussy might be a rat and he vanishes. Yeah honestly that's the only season 1 episode that I flat out didn't enjoy rewatching - I probably spent more time looking at Twitter than the screen. I was never a fan of any of Chris' dalliances with the entertainment biz though, even if there's something true to life about an amateur gangster producing a lovely made for DVD horror film.
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Dawgstar posted:I think the peak (or possibly nadir) was 'A Hit Is A Hit' which really did feel like a sitcom with a TV Guide blurb like 'Ade wants to go into the music biz with the help of a gansta rapper, Chris disapproves; Tony feels used by his new non-mafia friends; Carmela plays the stock market.' It doesn't have anything to do with the two episodes it's in the middle of, with 'Boca' giving us the catalyst of Tony finding out Uncle Junior whistles to the wheat fields and 'Nobody Knows Anything' where they think Pussy might be a rat and he vanishes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sSIE-o2V9g&t=73s Such a cornball ending.
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Stay out of our way, and don't be so gay
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CHODEGOD420 posted:Stay out of our way, and don't be so gay I like how Defiler sounded like lovely latter day Guns n Roses. That song could've been on Chinese Democracy.
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If you haven't seen it yet make sure you watch Im The Loop by armando ianucci which Gandolfini plays a big and great part of.
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MrBling posted:The thing to keep in mind about the pilot is that it was filmed in 1997, so they had a full year between getting picked up by HBO and starting the filming of the rest of the season. Sopranos is up there with Mad Men for pilots that look almost completely then the rest of the show.
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CHODEGOD420 posted:Stay out of our way, and don't be so gay I really wish they had released singles for Defiler/Visiting Day, the songs are just so perfect, like the argument over whether “Sharon’s Chair” or “Melt” would be their first hit single.
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"I've recorded in Denmark" I have to admit is an amazing line even as I ran down the episode.
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Dawgstar posted:"I've recorded in Denmark" I have to admit is an amazing line even as I ran down the episode. The ultimate  line.
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"Richie had third-degree burns from trying to grill that trout with a downed power line" and "maybe you should suck on another downed power line" are genius comedy
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“We’ll use a ukulele or something...” after he breaks the acoustic guitar over Richie’s head.
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hottake: furio would not have hosed up the hit on Philly L if he were still around.
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Ade: I don't know why we fight so much Christopher: It's my fault, I don't communicate my needs loving 
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Matt Zerella posted:Ade: I don't know why we fight so much I'm going to start using the phrase "abundant intentionality" in work meetings.
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Dominic Chianese is on the latest Talkin Sopranos podcast and it's a pretty good interview. He sounds really good and I swear for some reason I thought he had died. I might have been thinking of Bruno Kirby. https://talkingsopranos.simplecast.com/
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Calm down, we're not making a western here
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BiggerBoat posted:Dominic Chianese is on the latest Talkin Sopranos podcast and it's a pretty good interview. He sounds really good and I swear for some reason I thought he had died. I might have been thinking of Bruno Kirby. I was surprised to see he's only 89. I pinned him as late 70s when Sopranos started. I guess that's not a compliment but I'm glad he's alive.
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stev posted:I was surprised to see he's only 89. I pinned him as late 70s when Sopranos started. I guess that's not a compliment but I'm glad he's alive. It is usually better to get not-so-old people and age them up with make-up to get that look, because real old people can't do the hours and the physical activity sometimes needed. Carl Reiner by the end was doing cameos sitting in a chair for a decade.
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banned from Starbucks posted:He never had the makings of a varsity old person You posted that in front of the girl Aunts, which was very upsetting to me.
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stev posted:I was surprised to see he's only 89. I pinned him as late 70s when Sopranos started. I guess that's not a compliment but I'm glad he's alive. I think he still has an active singing career, which tend to be indicative of a robust health. Unless you're like, Lemmy Kilmister.
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Dominic Chianese did six songs at the con and you’d never know he was that old with those pipes.
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You hear about the Chinese godfather?
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Is there a more masterful and intense conversation on the show than the Tony Ralphie convo right after Jackie Jr knocks off the card game? Goddamn that's possibly the best moment of season 3. The look on Ralph's face when he leaves and they way they play hot potato on the decision is unreal.
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Only somewhat a comedy option, Richie trying to sweettalk Albert Barese into siding with him against Tony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g3Nvi5vVxw Albert's not the smartest guy in the world, but he basically manages to talk his way through the conversation keeping as neutral as possible until Richie forces him to tell him straight to his face,"No." At which point Richie has to walk away, because he's the one who has tried to finesse him and the very reason he's come to Albert in the first place (the power of he and Larry Boy's crew) is the exact same reason he can't do his usual thing of losing his poo poo and lashing out violently. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 28, 2021 |
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Jerusalem posted:Only somewhat a comedy option, Richie trying to sweettalk Albert Barese into siding with him against Tony: I always enjoyed that the most competent mob guys were the ones who always kept their heads down and didn't go in for any of that insane poo poo like the main cast did. Every time it looks like they're getting dragged in to a power play or some drama they just kind of nod and try to play it as neutral as they can.
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Goddammit what's it like to live in a house that's fully stocked for a baller sundae at any moment?
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Matt Zerella posted:Goddammit what's it like to live in a house that's fully stocked for a baller sundae at any moment? Turning into AJ
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CHODEGOD420 posted:Turning into AJ BEEEEP be a leada not a followa *throws bat*
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Matt Zerella posted:Goddammit what's it like to live in a house that's fully stocked for a baller sundae at any moment? This says with pulp. I like the one with some pulp.
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Actual question: What's the current state of the american mafia cause things looked pretty grim during the time period the show depicted.
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Stairmaster posted:Actual question: What's the current state of the american mafia cause things looked pretty grim during the time period the show depicted. They're still around. They're much more centralized to the northeast US and like Chicago now. They subcontract a lot of work to outlaw motorcycle clubs* and find out new ways to pull the same old tricks. They have to be a lot more careful in how they do business now thanks to RICO. *Go ahead, somebody. You know you want to.
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