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One of the most poisonous ideas in American society is this thing where if you ever change your mind and say something different then you did in the past, or hold a new position based on new data, you're a wishy-washy hypocritical flip flopper, and the good honorable thing to do is to stick to your first impressions forever no matter how many times they're proven wrong
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So, heads up about bailouts, the hedgefunds that got most hosed (namely Melvin Capital) already got bailed out. Not by the government though, by other hedge funds run by their compadres and close associates. Those hedgefunds had billions of dollars in Melvin Capital and threw money in the hole cuz it was cheaper than losing their whole investment.
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Jan 29, 2021 21:13
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:That's not different; Republicans have always been really into unity and cooperation and focusing on the economy when they're not the ones in charge. Also unlike every President since....... ummm..... IDK(*)? Biden has been in the heart of Washington DC for nearly 50 years and has a fairly complete understanding of how Federal power works. He didnt need to learn anything to get started in his new job, he knew how to move from day 1 and he knew who to talk to. Most politicans no matter how expeienced in say state level still need time to really get to grips with the unweildy beast of Federal level and of course Biden was VP on top of that. ( (*) Gerald Ford was the last US President with a substantial Federal political career before the Presidency. George Bush Snr had a brief Congressional seat but was mainly of course an ambassador and then head of the CIA. Biden's been in a position of Federal politics since Ford himself except for of course the brief period after Obama's term ended)
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Jan 29, 2021 23:54
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Ramirez loves Navalny because they see Muslims as the same kind of insect
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Jan 30, 2021 00:02
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Leaving aside that this guy has apparently aged really badly in, being generous, 30 years,* what even is the intended message here? Just that the game stop thing is a dumb prank by immature dummies who don't understand how real life works unlike me, the mature sophisticated guy who draws cartoons for a living? * I don't know for sure, but laptops for students (and going by "state u", explicitly not rich students) doesn't seem like it would've been that common much before the mid 90s?
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Jan 30, 2021 00:14
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 Broelman:  Leak, Son of Leak:  Gladys Berejiklian hits out at Annastacia Palaszczuk after JobKeeper extension proposal, coronavirus border closure (ABC) Palaszczuk (Queensland premier, Labor) pleaded for an extension to the JobKeeper program to help her state's tourism industry, the federal government and the New South Wales premier Berejiklian (Liberal) have said it's Palaszczuk's own fault for closing the border to NSW when they had outbreaks.
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Jan 30, 2021 00:14
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Vib Rib posted:Turns out it's all made up! I have a movie for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1sZSCz47w
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Jan 30, 2021 00:18
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Sagebrush posted:One of the most poisonous ideas in American society is this thing where if you ever change your mind and say something different then you did in the past, or hold a new position based on new data, you're a wishy-washy hypocritical flip flopper, and the good honorable thing to do is to stick to your first impressions forever no matter how many times they're proven wrong Hell, even if you give them no benefit of the doubt, pushing forward with your agenda when your previous politics become mainstream is a fairly intelligent move for anyone with radical politics; unless a $15 minumun wage was all you were aiming for in politics it makes sense to update your goals when the previous ones were achieved.
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Jan 30, 2021 00:23
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Screw you, Duck, my non-denominational winter tree makes me smile and life is depressing and last year it came down on reading break. Might do the same this year.
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Jan 30, 2021 00:40
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Vagabong posted:Hell, even if you give them no benefit of the doubt, pushing forward with your agenda when your previous politics become mainstream is a fairly intelligent move for anyone with radical politics; unless a $15 minumun wage was all you were aiming for in politics it makes sense to update your goals when the previous ones were achieved. They haven't been achieved, though. The minimum wage increase hasn't been made into law yet. Would it be so hard to say "thanks for taking this important first step, now let's get it done and go further?" Jurgan fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Jan 30, 2021 00:53
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Took a break from this thread during Covid because the initial "all the Dems do is complain while Manly Man Trump, Who Is Manly, is doing a great job" cartoons from wingnuts were so reprehensibly stupid, come back, and see that they're doing the same Democrat-killed-are-jobs poo poo they were doing during the Obama years. Hey, how did American manufacturing and farmers make out during the Trump years, you hacks?
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Jan 30, 2021 00:56
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Jurgan posted:They haven't been achieved, though. The minimum wage increase hasn't been made into law yet. Would it be so hard to say "thanks for taking this important first step, now let's get it done and go further?" Rhetorically, it depends on where someone considers their postion relative to the party mainstream. Appearing as a hardliner on an issue, and in turn encouraging others to act similarly, could definitely be more effective when you know you're not part of the majority opinion within the party structure.
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Jan 30, 2021 01:46
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 Guardian:  "Steve Bell on Boris Johnson visiting Scotland – Boris Johnson has urged Scottish nationalists to stop ‘talking endlessly’ about another independence referendum and concentrate instead on recovering from the Covid pandemic" Telegraph:  Matt:  Independent:  After Bert Thomas. Times:  Evening Standard:  UK vaccine strategy 'paying off' as latest trials boost stockpiles Mail: PAUL THOMAS on... millennial humour 
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Jan 30, 2021 01:58
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Cloud Potato posted:
I loving hate you, Thomas.
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Jan 30, 2021 02:01
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Jurgan posted:They haven't been achieved, though. The minimum wage increase hasn't been made into law yet. Would it be so hard to say "thanks for taking this important first step, now let's get it done and go further?" If the precedent hadn't been so firmly established that the "important first step" is nearly always intended to also be the last step, I would see where you were coming from.
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D.N. Nation posted:Took a break from this thread during Covid because the initial "all the Dems do is complain while Manly Man Trump, Who Is Manly, is doing a great job" cartoons from wingnuts were so reprehensibly stupid, come back, and see that they're doing the same Democrat-killed-are-jobs poo poo they were doing during the Obama years. Hey, how did American manufacturing and farmers make out during the Trump years, you hacks?
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Jan 30, 2021 02:59
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I loving hate you, Thomas. just such active anti-comedy, the Neil Hamburger of comics, how can you hate this perfect oaf?
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Jan 30, 2021 03:22
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The banality of evil.
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Jan 30, 2021 04:22
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 Please nominate additional cartoons for the 2020 Kellies! The nomination thread is here. I will be compiling the current set of nominations this weekend, but we still are in dire need of additional candidates! The deadline is February 7!
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Jan 30, 2021 05:02
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Discendo Vox posted:
I think people were using keywords if you're willing to search them but if you're not nbd.
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Jan 30, 2021 05:07
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fool of sound posted:I think people were using keywords if you're willing to search them but if you're not nbd. There are and I'm compiling them as well (I proposed the keyword thing iirc and the thread search is making it way easier, thank Jeffrey), but it's not nearly as many as any prior year. The whole thing's been delayed for weeks, so we're desperately trying to get more activity.
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Jan 30, 2021 05:10
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The thread also just had a lot less activity last year. I get it. I kind burned out on trumptoons around 2018 and inky was kinda reading the thread in 19-20.
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Jan 30, 2021 05:15
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It was pretty obvious from early on that trump would herald an absolutely dire wasteland for political comedy.
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Jan 30, 2021 06:38
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Niric posted:Leaving aside that this guy has apparently aged really badly in, being generous, 30 years,* what even is the intended message here? Just that the game stop thing is a dumb prank by immature dummies who don't understand how real life works unlike me, the mature sophisticated guy who draws cartoons for a living? I think the narrative that has been getting pushed is that the whole Gamestop thing was orchestrated by basement dwelling neckbeards who are only in it for the lulz, and that's why it's actually a bad thing that a bunch of hedge fund managers are eating poo poo right now. So yeah, just "Big dumb immature babies playing with toys not meant for them."
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Jan 30, 2021 07:25
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Yeah, I kinda tapped out on political cartoons last year, so I don't really know what the real dregs were for nominations.
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Jan 30, 2021 07:41
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Jurgan posted:They haven't been achieved, though. The minimum wage increase hasn't been made into law yet. Would it be so hard to say "thanks for taking this important first step, now let's get it done and go further?" Politicians aren't your friends and they don't need to be thanked for (barely) doing their jobs. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Jan 30, 2021 08:14
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I'm almost to August in the 2020 thread I have bookmarked. I'll read a page or two when this thread is slow.
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Jan 30, 2021 08:23
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 If we take free speech seriously Then we also have to let those who we fear to be heard. (That's ABB, the guy who blew a bomb and shot a bunch of kids.)
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Lodin posted:
Looks like mass murder is even creeped by her deadpan stare. I don't think freedom of speech guarantees that someone should listen to you.
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Jan 30, 2021 09:30
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Lodin posted:
We heard him just fine the first time around , yo
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Jan 30, 2021 10:19
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Lodin posted:
Wow, when you first posted this cartoon I thought it was too bland to hate, guess I was wrong.
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Jan 30, 2021 11:17
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Captain Kosmos posted:Looks like mass murder is even creeped by her deadpan stare. Why aren't you listening to me?? I AM BEING SILENCED. SILENCED!!!
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Jan 30, 2021 11:19
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 (The blonde woman is the prime minister of Norway, the guy with the beard is the minister of health and the two others are from the national health institute)
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Jan 30, 2021 11:49
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  Let's get some finnish poo poo in here. How you recognize lies and scams? Speech bubble: They often say with big letters "lie" or "scam". Then there's some leaflets about Suuri Holokausti huijaus(Great Holocaust lie) and Ilmastonmuutos valhe paljastuu(Climate change lie revealed) etc. Someone had been dropping Covid-19 propaganda leaflets in mailboxes at Turku. That's what the cartoon is probably referring to.  https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/turku_residents_seeing_covid_conspiracy_pamphlets/11760409
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Somfin posted:We heard him just fine the first time around , yo Yeah, I was just a few blocks from where the fucker blew up his bomb.
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Jan 30, 2021 13:43
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Ben Garrison posted:They’re unnecessary because COVID-19 survivability rate is 99.7 percent!
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Indiana_Krom posted:A little late, but seriously gently caress that guy. Assuming everyone did what he is suggesting, how many millions of people would die? Like "Congratulations, you killed 0.3% of the population, cementing your position as the biggest mass murderer in history!". Good news is that if the death rate is 0.3%, it means there won't be more than about a million dead in the US, so you are already halfway there.
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Jan 30, 2021 14:45
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steinrokkan posted:Good news is that if the death rate is 0.3%, it means there won't be more than about a million dead in the US, so you are already halfway there. 
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^^^^ "Died with or from Covid-19?"  Indiana_Krom posted:A little late, but seriously gently caress that guy. Assuming everyone did what he is suggesting, how many millions of people would die? Like "Congratulations, you killed 0.3% of the population, cementing your position as the biggest mass murderer in history!". Trump already showed that "Sacrifice your grammy for Moloch" approach didn't really work, so it's weird that still some people are going for it. Also we don't know what kind long term effects covid has, atleast that one lung transplant patients original lungs looked like poo poo. Having country full of sicky people doesn't sound very good. Captain Kosmos fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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