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indigi posted:I've always thought a good sci fi world would be a place where the tower of babel thing happened again and everyone's languages got all screwed up. what would happen. seems like it'd be pretty crazy! anyway thanks for reading my post sounds like snow crash
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Jan 30, 2021 13:55
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indigi posted:I've always thought a good sci fi world would be a place where the tower of babel thing happened again and everyone's languages got all screwed up. what would happen. seems like it'd be pretty crazy! anyway thanks for reading my post H.P. Hovercraft posted:isn't that the premise of The Flame Alphabet indigi posted:no, the Flame Alphabet seems to be about “what if children talking caused adults to rapidly wither away and die” rotor posted:so basically parenthood then Kenny Logins fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Jan 30, 2021 14:28
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started gideon the ninth. it’s okay and all my queer friends seem to love it but it’s too edgy and quippy for me. like this is some lies of locke lamora poo poo and like i’ll obviously tolerate it to a degree but it hit hard and fast. i’ve been trying to read newer poo poo but it’s all been obnoxious like that and like if the story is good enough i’ll put up with it, like in the expanse. but i’ve read so many stinkers this year, from altered carbon, to the lies of lock lamorra, to this awful awful werewolf book. i tried banks a few years ago with hydrogen sonata but bounced the gently caress off of it within 100 pages. is there modern scifi/fantasy poo poo that isn’t quippy formulaic poo poo or am i poo poo out of luck?
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Jan 30, 2021 16:05
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it's so goddamned quippy
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Jan 30, 2021 16:36
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omg i found out kindle.app does some cute poo poo
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Jan 30, 2021 16:46
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when the cover says "skeletons!" it does not lie
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Jan 30, 2021 17:06
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Jan 30, 2021 17:49
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Casual Encountess posted:
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Jan 30, 2021 18:14
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seconding the raven tower, pushing ninefox gambit + sequels (they use a very simple unobtrusive style to tell a compelling story)
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Jan 30, 2021 18:19
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the anne leckie ancillary books maybe?
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Jan 30, 2021 18:20
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Casual Encountess posted:omg i found out kindle.app does some cute poo poo thats a hell of a way to go
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Jan 30, 2021 18:24
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I liked the Ancillary books a lot. you need to be prepared for a narrator whose culture only uses she/her pronouns.
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Jan 30, 2021 18:27
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Silver Alicorn posted:I liked the Ancillary books a lot. you need to be prepared for a narrator whose culture only uses she/her pronouns. yeah it's good also liked raven tower
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Jan 30, 2021 18:29
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Carthag Tuek posted:yeah it's good I really liked the first ancillary book, the second two were still good but could have been condensed to one the raven tower is one of my all time favorite fantasy books now for anyone that’s thinking about picking it up, the raven tower is best read cold, HOWEVER it has a unique narrative device that you may find yourself bouncing off of. if that’s the case, you owe it to yourself to at least read through the first flashback
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Jan 30, 2021 18:34
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i have blindsight and witcher 1 racked up to go next. i put raven tower and nine fox up on my for later shelf. thanks goons. i really don’t want loving ten pages of banks chat for the billionth time (love y’all) but should my first book be consider phlebas or player of games Casual Encountess fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Jan 30, 2021 18:54
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anything but phlebas. though I started with phlebas and here I am.
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Jan 30, 2021 18:57
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do the space move, op
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Jan 30, 2021 18:59
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reading a player of games is the best space move consider phlebas is sort of a field test of the culture, both for audience and author. in the later books the setting is a fully formed presence
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Jan 30, 2021 19:01
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Use of weapons imho
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Jan 30, 2021 19:01
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player of games imo it is a good introduction to the culture that doesn't require a lot of other knowledge of the books
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Jan 30, 2021 19:11
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phlebas or use of weapons imo, as they're gbe only ones I've reread so far
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Jan 30, 2021 19:39
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I get all my books from Google and for some reason Excession is only available in Spanish?
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Jan 30, 2021 19:45
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Ancillary Justice is just downright awesome. It uses a genuinely novel approach to a sci fi idea to explore concepts of the boundaries of self. There's one point in the book that is so interesting, I still can't just enjoy the latter two books because they don't explore it further. Specifically: Anaander Mianaai goes to the the Justice of Toren ship, and JoT lies through her teeth to the queen of all civilization but doesn't know why. The really juicy, tantalizing stuff is when JoT starts to remember fragments of a previous visit from Mianaai, which had been scrubbed from her memory as they're talking: quote:
The book explicitly describes two factions- AM states she's plotting a self-coup over a change of heart (this one hacked JoT), and the other AM is convinced the aliens have hacked a faction of herself, bending it toward self destruction. This lays out core tension of the plot, imo. But, AFAICT, the rest of the book/books never touch on this? The very next thing that happens is the "i've been hacked" Mianaai faction orders JoT to kill its commander, and then JoT goes on a revenge rampage to try and kill (either?) Mianaai faction at the capital. But there's no resolution- is the protagonist a programmed sleeper cell? Did Mianaai get hacked, or did part of her brain just decide to stage a very violent coup over a difference of opinion? Anyway, I've read the book four or five times now, and thinking about it again I think I've got to queue up another pass. Really good stuff.
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Jan 30, 2021 20:28
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it’s pretty explicit that it’s the latter that happened, specifically over how to deal with the Presgr iircCasual Encountess posted:blindsight woof, talk about a stinker. but I think some people here lied it so maybe you will too I’d recommend KSR’s Aurora. it’s fairly depressing but really good and I can’t stop thinking about it
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Jan 30, 2021 20:48
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indigi posted:woof, talk about a stinker. lmao. blindsight is the best science fiction book of the 2000s. man do goons ever have lovely taste in literature
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Jan 30, 2021 21:11
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blindsight is very good and also very dark and not quippy I got a few chapters into it before it was renamed permanently in my mind to “rendezvous with rama 40K”
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Jan 30, 2021 21:20
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blindsight and echopraxia are both great, and are even read by people who aren't big scifi fans though i'm a little concerned about his other work, doesn't he have a pedophile POV character or something
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Jan 30, 2021 21:22
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indigi posted:it’s pretty explicit that it’s the latter that happened, specifically over how to deal with the Presgr iirc Is this is one of the sequels? Or just somewhere in the finale?
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Jan 30, 2021 21:24
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like i know what i’m getting into with genre fiction but much like movies everything is too quippy and marvel super hero. and not even the fun kind of pulpy. it doesn’t have to be all stoic and grim but it sucks rear end that i can already picture a lovely netflix prestige adaptation of gideon the ninth
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Jan 30, 2021 21:25
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hire whoever does casting and set dressing for the magicians
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Jan 30, 2021 21:26
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yeah the rifter books are like if james cameron made a bdsm flick in partnership with kink.com the underwater parts and sci fi parts are great. the torture porn is not so great. there is a pedophile pov character but he goes completely native under the ocean and turns into a sort of creepy blind shrimp thing who only shows up once in a while and later is killed by an atomic bomb so it's not like it's sympathetic or anything
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Jan 30, 2021 21:28
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Sagebrush posted:yeah the rifter books are like if james cameron made a bdsm flick in partnership with kink.com I don't remember him ever being a POV, and also (major spoilers from late in the series) his pedo-ness was lasered into his brain, the same as all the other rifter crew have severe mental issues - people with trauma can (apparently) work a stressful traumatic job successfully, and it's much easier to take a submarine tech and gently caress up their brain than it is to take a basket case and train them to be a sub tech. Yeah, corporations eh? But agreed, the big bad in the 3rd book is so comically evil with his tortures and rapes that I can't believe Watts wasn't trying to say something about the ultra-powerful. Definitely not a read for anyone who would be triggered by unflinchingly hosed-up content.
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Jan 30, 2021 21:36
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there's a few passages early in the book where pedo guy is the pov and they successfully creeped me out with his inner monologue. later after he goes native the viewpoint shifts entirely to lenie and he only shows up occasionally to open a chapter and show how weird stuff is at the bottom of the ocean.
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Jan 30, 2021 21:46
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Sagebrush posted:lmao. blindsight is the best science fiction book of the 2000s. it’s misanthropic, cynical, and myopic. perfect goon literature
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Jan 30, 2021 22:19
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watching space jam
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Jan 30, 2021 22:54
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Jan 30, 2021 22:58
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my partner is a foreign national who was really excited to watch this a week or two ago and she absolutely loved it for reasons. i was honestly taken aback. she threw on independence day the next day and we’ve been banging out all the 90s movies she missed
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Jan 30, 2021 22:59
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there's this new netflix harry potter and i was sure it was yet another fanfic adaptation but apparently it's actually a live action teen drama remake of an italian nickelodeon series lol someday i'm going to have to read blindsight so that i can finally pick a side in one of the great wars of the sci-fi thread
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discovering the source material for wynx was almost as funny as discovering the source material for warrior nun
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