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stephenthinkpad posted:It was a very beautiful plan indeed.
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Jan 30, 2021 22:53
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Ardennes posted:Granted, a strategic partnership with the Russians seems to have solved the issue by opening up former Soviet Central Asia for infrastructure development (especially Turkmenistan) allowing relatively easy access to Iran. Also there is at least one major corridor linking Pakistan and China directly. Honestly, maybe the US did China a favor by forcing them to work around Afganistan in the first place. I think that route in Afghanistan was to linking Afghanistan to a seaport, thus bringing development to inland afghan, not a trans-eurasia land route. However, china started CPEC, and hid it under the 1B1R branding, one year after Xi took over. It was also around the same time China started reinforcing SCS reefs. So it was possible China purposed a different, less strenuous route than CPEC under Hu. Building CPEC really touched India's sensitive spot and Modi started making GBS threads on 1B1R publicly. Any land route that link up China to west side of Southern Asia (Pakistan/Iran/Afghan) would use way more energy for cargo shipping than a normal sea route. It makes more sense for China to help these countries building more infrastructure to increase commerce between them and increase the prosperities of this little "pro-China" region.
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Jan 31, 2021 00:11
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Some Guy TT posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1355149986158309379 Never too late to say it’s all a commie plot.
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Jan 31, 2021 00:21
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Never too late to say it’s all a commie plot. becoming a centralized economy to own the commies
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Jan 31, 2021 00:23
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Vasukhani posted:becoming a centralized economy to own the commies Worked for de gaulle
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Jan 31, 2021 00:28
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PawParole posted:the American empire was at its apex when their were only 20 state, I agree. California and Texas joining the union was when things started going downhill. It did literally escalate the free/slave state balance that led to the Civil War
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Jan 31, 2021 01:01
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https://twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1355079966753497088?s=20 did the brits make up this number
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Jan 31, 2021 01:26
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1355079966753497088?s=20 I don't think that many people live in hong ko SEVEN MILLION?!
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Jan 31, 2021 01:27
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why did China join the US against the Soviets in Afghanistan. seems like a stupid move
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Jan 31, 2021 01:39
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There is rumor of HK government taking the step of disallowing dual citizenship soon, the softer approach probably would require high level? civil servants not holding foreign passport and British BNO. And more extreme approach would be taking the election right away from the BNO holders. Which way HK will go in Carrie Lam's remaining term I believe depends entirely on Sino-British diplomatic interaction. Personally, I don't think Boris Johnson has done many over-the-top thing against China, unlike Pompeo and Scomo from down under. But Beijing seem to be pretty upset about UK's new BNO policy.
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Jan 31, 2021 02:04
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indigi posted:why did China join the US against the Soviets in Afghanistan. seems like a stupid move Because of Soviet intrusion into their sphere of influence with Korea / Vietnam
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Jan 31, 2021 02:15
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Grapplejack posted:Because of Soviet intrusion into their sphere of influence with Korea / Vietnam China also had a big relationship falling out with the Soviet Union under Khrushchev which created bad blood, not mention making them rivals for spheres of influence in Asia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split
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Jan 31, 2021 03:07
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indigi posted:why did China join the US against the Soviets in Afghanistan. seems like a stupid move lol wut China launched a full scale ground invasion of North Vietnam while a Soviet carrier was docked in Cam Ranh Bay the only reason there weren't Chinese advisors embedded with the muhahedeen directly was because the American advisors were already there
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Jan 31, 2021 03:38
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China was as probably closer to war with the Soviets from 1970 on than the US was with the USSR
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Jan 31, 2021 03:39
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I am not convinced Mao actually wanted to have war with Soviet, see how fast China and Russia settled down on all border disputes in the late 90s. Mao probably wanted to use the military movement and skirmish to send US signal that they are ready to deal. Mao also asked that author of Red Star Over China to send Nixon invitation over Time magazine around the same time, but the Americans couldn't understand the subtle gestures. But it's true Mao never liked Soviet that much. His revolutionary doctrine of countryside surround cities is so different from classical Marxist Leninist proletariat revolution theory. And Stalin was hedging his bet between the CCP and KMT before CCP finally won the civil war. If Mao didn't fought to a tie in Korean peninsula to prove PRC's worth, he couldn't get the Soviet support of 156 heavy industrial projects. There was no reason for PRC to trust Soviet that much, the Soviet externally was acting like an imperial hegemon, not that the Soviet shouldn't act based on her own interest.
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Jan 31, 2021 04:03
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Throatwarbler posted:China launched a full scale ground invasion of North Vietnam while a Soviet carrier was docked in Cam Ranh Bay this also seems stupid
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Jan 31, 2021 04:57
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Lots of US officials didn't realize the Sino-soviet split was happening at the time, some were convinced it was a trick for years after. US nuclear war planning into the late 1960s called for strikes against both the USSR and China, even if the war was previously confined to against just one of them.
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Jan 31, 2021 05:08
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https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1355132962153623552?s=19 The Intercept pivoting from Russiagate bullshit to Yellow Peril bullshit Glenn was right to leave these losers
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Jan 31, 2021 05:11
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one can argue Glenn shouldn't have made a Faustian deal with a billionaire in the first place
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Jan 31, 2021 05:12
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I don't see how what China is doing is in any way better than the NYPD hyper-surveillance of Muslims post-9/11 or the LAPD hounding the black community for, uh, ever
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Jan 31, 2021 05:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1355132962153623552?s=19 quote:Between the two couples, police recovered 168 religious audio files deemed illegal, likely because they were connected to an Islamic movement, Tablighi Jamaat, that advocates practicing Islam as it was practiced when the Prophet Muhammad was alive.
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Jan 31, 2021 05:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1355132962153623552?s=19 Glenn is also a loser
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Jan 31, 2021 05:30
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indigi posted:Glenn is also a loser this
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Jan 31, 2021 05:54
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Grapplejack posted:I don't see how what China is doing is in any way better than the NYPD hyper-surveillance of Muslims post-9/11 or the LAPD hounding the black community for, uh, ever The US is far from blameless but investigating people's computers to arrest them for illegal religious activity is one of the few things we aren't doing.
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Jan 31, 2021 06:37
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Sing Along posted:The US is far from blameless but investigating people's computers to arrest them for illegal religious activity is one of the few things we aren't doing. ah yeah at some point those religious freaks run the government
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Jan 31, 2021 06:46
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Sing Along posted:The US is far from blameless but investigating people's computers to arrest them for illegal religious activity is one of the few things we aren't doing. The US has been monitoring Tablighi Jamaat specifically since 9/11.
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Jan 31, 2021 07:21
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https://fair.org/home/nyts-china-syndrome/
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Jan 31, 2021 09:14
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Sing Along posted:The US is far from blameless but investigating people's computers to arrest them for illegal religious activity is one of the few things we aren't doing. that very much depends on your religion of choice
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Jan 31, 2021 15:40
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Sing Along posted:The US is far from blameless but investigating people's computers to arrest them for illegal religious activity is one of the few things we aren't doing. Nice clock Ahmed!
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Jan 31, 2021 16:13
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I haven't read every post in this thread but it seems to mostly be about Asia. Does it make sense to keep calling it the Eurasia thread? There is a seperate Europe thread, so I was thinking it makes sense to call this one the Asia thread.
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Jan 31, 2021 18:14
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I think it’s called Eurasia because people occasionally discuss Russia/eastern bloc stuff
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Jan 31, 2021 18:16
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So will the mods finally be the ones to decide what is asia and europe?
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Jan 31, 2021 18:19
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Lostconfused posted:So will the mods finally be the ones to decide what is asia and europe? brave
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Jan 31, 2021 18:20
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We give all Soviet topics honorary Asian status.
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Jan 31, 2021 18:28
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this was originally the asia thread but it got changed to eurasia bc people kept talking about russia related things, pay attention mod dweeb
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Jan 31, 2021 18:38
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Marx lumped russia and china and india together in saying they had an asiatic mode of production so may as well keep the same energy here
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Jan 31, 2021 18:58
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Jan 31, 2021 19:39
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Speaking of which, another set of protests happened today in Russia. I seen estimates of around 5,000 in Moscow.
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Jan 31, 2021 20:28
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Some Indo China news https://twitter.com/TungNgoCNA/status/1355770153577840642?s=20 Also, CPV posted:The 13th Congress draft has set an agenda to make Vietnam a modern industrialized developing country and elevate it from the lower-middle income group by 2025. Vietnam has its own Industrial 2025 and 2 centennial goals too. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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Jan 31, 2021 20:35
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twoday posted:I haven't read every post in this thread but it seems to mostly be about Asia. Does it make sense to keep calling it the Eurasia thread? There is a seperate Europe thread, so I was thinking it makes sense to call this one the Asia thread. It's mostly because we tend to discuss Russia and parts of the middle east on occasion as they get impacted by regional stuff, so Eurasia is appropriate imo
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Jan 31, 2021 20:42
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