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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:I did How on earth did you keep him alive past the halls teeming with APA, .223 minigun turrets and angry security robots? (I guess you could have just left him on the foyer but that doesn't seem very fun)
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Funky Valentine posted:Marcus in NV mentioning that he was on the oil rig is funny because it's like, gently caress no, no one brought you there because you get shredded to poo poo. Ian was canonically at Necropolis (where he got killed), and wasn't that a similar situation
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Jan 28, 2021 19:53
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starting to get the feeling bethesda essential'd companions because they didn't want to keep track of who was most likely to die at X place.
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Jan 28, 2021 19:54
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RangerKarl posted:starting to get the feeling bethesda essential'd companions because they didn't want to keep track of who was most likely to die at X place. All except the one who actually needed it, Sydney (at least for the duration of the team-up), who's so fragile I had to fall back on having her wait at the start of an Archives zone, clear the whole thing, come back and move her to the next entrance, and repeat. And then console move her to Underworld so she'd actually make the trip. Rip all those alternate timelines where she got sentry botted to death. Over and over.
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Jan 28, 2021 20:03
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Ian was canonically at Necropolis (where he got killed), and wasn't that a similar situation I legitimately got upset when companions would die in FO1 and 2. Moreso in FO1 because you couldn't even protect them with gear.
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Jan 28, 2021 20:35
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I religiously stimpacked DogMeat every time he ran through a laser forcefield, and dragged that stupid mutt kicking and screaming through the entire game alive.
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Jan 28, 2021 23:03
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Katsuma posted:I religiously stimpacked DogMeat every time he ran through a laser forcefield, and dragged that stupid mutt kicking and screaming through the entire game alive. You're a stronger man than I. I gave up on Ian and him after my tenth save reload watching those dumbasses walk through the forcefields over and over.
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Jan 28, 2021 23:06
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Ian was canonically at Necropolis (where he got killed), and wasn't that a similar situation yep, and dogmeat got zapped by a Mariposa forcefield
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Jan 28, 2021 23:31
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Dog meat canonically dies to forcefield a. You can't escape death's design.
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RangerKarl posted:How on earth did you keep him alive past the halls teeming with APA, .223 minigun turrets and angry security robots? I... honestly don't remember. I think I rolled with Sulik, Cassidy, and marcus most of the game, got them Power Armor when I could. Maybe we were just over-levelled?
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Jan 29, 2021 02:58
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I've never been able to bring companions anywhere but that front lobby of the oil rig without them being murked. But then again, I'm bad at videogames, so whatever.
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Jan 29, 2021 03:16
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oh jay posted:Dog meat canonically dies to forcefield a. You can't escape death's design. https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/dead-meat
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Jan 29, 2021 03:50
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Fallout 2 had a mechanic where companions only had a random chance to also level up when the player did. They made up for it by making the stat difference between levels more dramatic for companions (they could gain more AC and AP as well as health and skill growth) and increasing the likelihood to level up if they hadn't for a while, but that also meant you could get unlucky and have a weak companion for a stretch of time whom you have to baby through very difficult parts of the game.
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moot the hopple posted:Fallout 2 had a mechanic where companions only had a random chance to also level up when the player did. They made up for it by making the stat difference between levels more dramatic for companions (they could gain more AC and AP as well as health and skill growth) and increasing the likelihood to level up if they hadn't for a while, but that also meant you could get unlucky and have a weak companion for a stretch of time whom you have to baby through very difficult parts of the game. I can't tell if you're loving with me or not.
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Acerbatus posted:I can't tell if you're loving with me or not. Wiki posted:In Fallout 2, each companion has a fixed number (typically, 4-6) of predefined levels called "stages" in the form of multiple alternative models for them with different statistics. Each time the player character gains a level, every current companion has a chance to go up a stage i.e. change to a more powerful model. A companion starts with a base model, then advances to stage 1, 2 etc.
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Jan 30, 2021 09:06
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This is the most western CRPG poo poo imaginable.
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Jan 30, 2021 09:39
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Lmao, what a time to be alive.
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Running a melee build in F4 and a random raider dropped a Relentless Super Sledge while I had 6 perk points stacked up, so I guess I'm a maxed luck build now Also reminded of how annoying the perk system can be when you have to basically invest 20-30 levels in perk taxes just to get stuff like basic settlement functionality Perfect Potato fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Perfect Potato posted:Running a melee build in F4 and a random raider dropped a Relentless Super Sledge while I had 6 perk points stacked up, so I guess I'm a maxed luck build now melee builds in FO4 are hilariously busted, but only if you use VATS all the time to ignore blocks. Strength continuously scales melee damage and you can spam drugs(which are easy to make and can be made to last a really long time) to get insane strength stats.   With stats like these you don't even need an AP hungry weapon like a super sledge. Get a regular combat knife and just teleport around the map instakilling everything.
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Jan 30, 2021 19:43
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Acerbatus posted:I can't tell if you're loving with me or not. He isn't. Older CRPGs are just a mess of mechanics that really make no sense in hindsight. There's most likely a mod somewhere to make them always level at specific times. Paul Revere 3000 posted:I've never been able to bring companions anywhere but that front lobby of the oil rig without them being murked. But then again, I'm bad at videogames, so whatever. Not sure how much your own gamer skills matter when you barely have any control of them besides telling them "please don't loving shoot me to pieces". The Oil Rig is brutal even with a minmaxed build, and your companions definitely do not have a minmaxed build ever.
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Jan 30, 2021 19:46
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Man, as boring as FO4 can get, Nuka-World is still strangely fun, at least for me.
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Jan 30, 2021 23:24
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Nuka World is the only place in all of FO4 that has even a semblance of a personality.
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Jan 30, 2021 23:30
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I'm playing Nuka-World right now, and grinding against bullet sponge Nukalurks so that I can have more unfunny dialogue with the one dimensionally evil raiders is not fun. In my main save, I just didn't do the main quest, cleared out the Raiders and gave it back to the traders. Nuka World is where the problems of gutting the dialogue system and having a voiced protagonist REALLY show. Not sure why the VA was told to do a lot of the lines in the  voice, but that's more an issue of the game prioritising the WACKY SARCASTIC LOL SO FUNNY one-liners over actual writing.
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Halser posted:Not sure how much your own gamer skills matter when you barely have any control of them besides telling them "please don't loving shoot me to pieces". The Oil Rig is brutal even with a minmaxed build, and your companions definitely do not have a minmaxed build ever. Keeping Dogmeat alive in FO1 when I was eleven is my most impressive video game accomplishment to date, and like everything else that falls under that category it required a mix of machoism, obstinacy, luck, and skill. Don't you dare take that away from me!
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Namnesor posted:Nuka World is the only place in all of FO4 that has even a semblance of a personality. Yeah, this is pretty much it. The literal theme park location also gels well with Bethesda's theme park campaign design, so there's that as well. OldMemes posted:I'm playing Nuka-World right now, and grinding against bullet sponge Nukalurks so that I can have more unfunny dialogue with the one dimensionally evil raiders is not fun. Eh, I actually prefer some of the Raiders to Boston's characters, though if there was a way to just let the Operators rule everything and kill off the other two groups, that'd be grand. gently caress, if there was a way to finish the game with only my dude and the Operators in charge, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Dudes just want to make money, there's a goal I can get behind.
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FO4 was bad but I did have fun with my chem addicted melee user. It really is broken.
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Digital Osmosis posted:Keeping Dogmeat alive in FO1 when I was eleven is my most impressive video game accomplishment to date, and like everything else that falls under that category it required a mix of machoism, obstinacy, luck, and skill. Don't you dare take that away from me! I don't remember if it was in this thread, the other new vegas thread, the other fallout thread, or the comic thread so I'm just posting this again 
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Has it ever been said why a ghoul was never a player option? I'd love a SM protagonist too but understandable why that hasn't happened for technical reasons.
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Namnesor posted:Nuka World is the only place in all of FO4 that has even a semblance of a personality. Far Harbor was as good as the rest of FO4 was terrible.
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Proletarian Mango posted:Has it ever been said why a ghoul was never a player option? I'd love a SM protagonist too but understandable why that hasn't happened for technical reasons. Being healed by radiation is probably too annoying to plan around unless you were gonna make a ghoul game.
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You'd also have to write every interaction in the game with the idea that the player could be a hideous zombie, or else the wasteland would be unusually accepting compared to how they are in the other games. You could definitely make a game around it, you could make a game where the player is a super mutant or nightkin or a crashlanded alien, but all of those would take a lot more legwork to fit into the game than just another baseline human.
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CommissarMega posted:Man, as boring as FO4 can get, Nuka-World is still strangely fun, at least for me. Nuka World tosses all pretense aside and revels in what Bethesda is good at. Stupid dumb plots laid out over a surprisingly well crafted world despite lacking cohesion. It was always meant to be a theme park.
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I somehow broke the Nuka World main quest by doing it up to the point where you had to start raiding settlements, then killing all the raiders. IDK what flags are supposed to be set after you clear the raiders out, but it seems like they aren't. Or, possibly, Bethesda just didn't bother writing any additional dialog for the slave/trader NPCs in the event that you wiped out the raiders in the park.
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One thing I've been wondering is how much of the weapons the Gun Runners/Crimson Caravan/Van Graffs sell are newly made vs restored pre-war. I got the impression the Runners were mostly making their own at this point while the others were more salvage reliant. Do they still respect pre-war names or do they make up their own names for selling?
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Jan 31, 2021 18:10
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Sawyer mentioned once that the service rifles the Gun Runners give to the Army are actually just refurbished pre-war models rather than something they're mass producing in the Boneyard, so I don't actually know how much production capability they actually have
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A Sometimes Food posted:One thing I've been wondering is how much of the weapons the Gun Runners/Crimson Caravan/Van Graffs sell are newly made vs restored pre-war. The schematics for the Gun Runners are mentioned to be pre-war but presumably they're producing at least some of their stock on site.
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A Sometimes Food posted:One thing I've been wondering is how much of the weapons the Gun Runners/Crimson Caravan/Van Graffs sell are newly made vs restored pre-war. I don't recall any canon confirmation whether the Van Graffs manufacture or restore their wares; my personal opinion tends towards restoration, considering the tech base necessary for energy weapons; the NCR is making pretty big strides, but I don't think they're quite there yet. The Gun Runners do explicitly manufacture their own guns, not just in New Vegas but also in FO1. McLafferty claims in NV dialogue that all of the NV location's wares are manufactured by the Gun Runners, with Vendortron confirming, and that tracks with the original depiction too. Side note as I verified this, the Gun Runners are one of the few depictions of a worker cooperative in video games that I've seen, let alone a positive one. Cool.
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Yeah I just assumed the Van Graffs had gotten hold of the laser guns that the Enclave had been smuggling in to New Reno
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