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Poque posted:I love the shootout and would absolutely love a HRD to settle a tie over runners on second cursed
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Regular season: tie after 9, or 12 innings if you want a little extra Postseason: play till someone wins This isn’t that complicated
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I very much enjoy the shootout but I don't think it actually compares to a HRD in any meaningful way. But yeah, if you don't want extra innings you just do ties in the regular season. Its not that hard and no one will care if over 162 games a team has 3 ties.
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bawfuls posted:Regular season: tie after 9, or 12 innings if you want a little extra I would love this so much, especially as a fan of a west coast team who is now stuck on the East coast. It’s not likely to happen and that makes me sad.
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Feb 1, 2021 01:43
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runner on second in extras is dumb poo poo
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Poque posted:I love the shootout and would absolutely love a HRD to settle a tie over runners on second Really hope you are in a tiny minority here. That kind of gimmick would he enough to sour me completely.
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N: https://twitter.com/BlakeHarrisTBLA/status/1355722043027677187 V: I love the DH
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GalacticAcid posted:Really hope you are in a tiny minority here. That kind of gimmick would he enough to sour me completely. it's no more gimmicky than runners on 2nd. Obviously I want the old status quo way over either of these dumb options
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Feb 1, 2021 03:58
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I don't know why it's imperative to end games after 12 innings like that's some hard cutoff for people to no longer like baseball. Insanely long 18 innings games are very rare and when they happen they're fun. If you don't want to watch anymore just turn it off, it doesn't make you a bad fan if you don't watch all 162 games beginning to end.
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Feb 1, 2021 04:43
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Yeah, the Jays 19 inning game on Canada day was one of my favorite games ever. Even though they lost. Ryan Goins (infielder who was pitching at the time) getting out of a bases loaded jam in the 18th with a double play was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I think Darwin Barney (another infielder) gave up the go ahead home run the next inning but this is all off the top of my head
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Feb 1, 2021 04:54
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If you don’t tell all your friends to turn the game on because it’s the 17th inning, then you aren’t a real baseball fan. Super late extra inning games are one of the coolest and most unique parts of the sport.
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Feb 1, 2021 05:02
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I, too, enjoy complaining about free extra baseball.
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Feb 1, 2021 05:22
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Falling asleep at 1am after watching teams infuriatingly strand runners or miraculouly tie each other for hours and then waking up feeling like poo poo and checking to see that your dumb team lost in the stupidest and most frustrating way possible actually owns the 3 times it happens a season.
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Feb 1, 2021 05:26
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Extra inning games are probably hardest on the players themselves. Especially if it happens the last game of a series and screws with travel.
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Feb 1, 2021 07:59
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Extremely long games are amazing and rule changes that reduce the probability of them happening are awful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7hXOxrozxM "Chris Davis hasn't pitched since high school." "So, his arm is fresh."
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Feb 1, 2021 08:20
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bawfuls posted:N: Welcome to the Dark Side 
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Feb 1, 2021 09:42
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I like extra innings and there's nothing quite like the feeling of a west coast trip where you go to bed and wake up only to discover the game is still going. Losing that feels like a tragedy. But I certainly can understand why teams would want to eliminate it for the wear and tear it does on the players. But runner on second is not the solution, nor is the possibly worst idea of a HRD. Again. Ties.
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Feb 1, 2021 12:28
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I too love to work double hours for others entertainment
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uggy posted:I too love to work double hours for others entertainment wait'll you hear about the playoffs dude, five, ten, fifteen entire extra games and if you go long enough without ever doing it people start to think you're "bad"
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Keep the extra innings rules, but have a lucky fan be the runner on second to start the inning.
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Congrats to the Angels on getting a pitcher: https://twitter.com/danconnolly2016/status/1356259633313296385
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Dutchy posted:wait'll you hear about the playoffs dude, five, ten, fifteen entire extra games and if you go long enough without ever doing it people start to think you're "bad" They get paid more if they make the playoffs. There’s a pool for the players to split
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FlamingLiberal posted:TBH I think that expanded playoffs encourages teams to refrain from blowing their teams up to some degree Perhaps, but it also definitely disincentives higher-than-median payroll spending. Teams like the Indians and Rays and everyone else can slash costs and get worse, but at the end of the year when they make the playoffs at 84 wins or finish 2 games out of the playoffs at 80 wins, they can turn to the fans and to the media and say "See? We were competitive, we know what we're doing, gently caress you.  "Knowing that the playoffs are more or less a crapshoot, why try spend on a 98-win team when an 88-win team will probably be enough to get you in?
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bawfuls posted:N: Have you considered gently caress the DH?
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Lol introducing both ties and expanded playoffs would be a crime against the sport. You'd have teams making the playoffs with 75 wins
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General Dog posted:Perhaps, but it also definitely disincentives higher-than-median payroll spending. Teams like the Indians and Rays and everyone else can slash costs and get worse, but at the end of the year when they make the playoffs at 84 wins or finish 2 games out of the playoffs at 80 wins, they can turn to the fans and to the media and say "See? We were competitive, we know what we're doing. If there were even a slim chance that expanded playoffs might kick off an escalating spending spree between teams, owners would run from it. They want it cause it would let them make more money and spend less.
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Mustached Demon posted:Have you considered gently caress the DH?
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STAC Goat posted:I very much enjoy the shootout but I don't think it actually compares to a HRD in any meaningful way. I don't care about ties as much as some people but there'll be a lot more than 3 of them per team if you don't have extra innings at all
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The sensible compromise for extra innings, if eliminating marathon games and avoiding ties are both of critical importance for some reason, would be to play innings 10,11,12 the normal way and then implement the runners in the 13th.
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I looked at the last couple Dodgers season on BReff and they played 10-15 extra inning games each year from 2017-19. However if you end in a tie after 12 innings instead of 9, then you end up with like 1-3 ties a year which strikes me as a worthwhile tradeoff.
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Dustin Pedroia officially retired. He unofficially retired years ago
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Was there a difference in win rate last season in regards to extra innings games? Cause I really don't actually care about extra innings. I think I'd be ok with the rule if it started after the 10th, since most extra innings games end after 10 regardless.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Was there a difference in win rate last season in regards to extra innings games? Cause I really don't actually care about extra innings. I think I'd be ok with the rule if it started after the 10th, since most extra innings games end after 10 regardless. Leaguewide winning% in extra inning games was around 50% iirc
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Remembering that one Dodgers/Astros extra inning game this season that went to like the 15th where the first 3 innings the Dodgers didn't get the runner from second home and each time Dusty just absolutely refused to call for a bunt, the one time you should be bunting I don't think the runner advanced to third in any of those innings
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Extra innings is great, Manfred is stupid
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Nodoze posted:Extra innings is great, Manfred is stupid New thread title
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Is this how hockey fans feel all the time? I don't think I've ever seen a professional sport run with such disregard/contempt for fan sentiment at every turn as I have during Manfred-era MLB. And I'm just talking about the extra innings/playoff format changes and musings about banning the shift, without getting into the overall freeze on FA spending.
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The thing I don't get about Manfred's poo poo is who it's supposed to win over. I know a lot of people who don't like baseball, they don't know or care about any of these rule changes because they fundamentally do not like baseball, moment-to-moment. I know a lot of people who did like baseball and lapsed who were devoted viewers of those 4.5 hour Sox-Yanks games from the 00s and were pushed away by PED scandals and the big market/small market imbalance. None of these people are going to turn off Netflix for a Dodgers game in July because of the three batter minimum.uggy posted:They get paid more if they make the playoffs. There’s a pool for the players to split A top guy like a Kershaw or a Verlander or whatever is taking like a 90% pay cut per game come October, which I would find to be a pretty absurd overtime arrangement and I can only guess that MLB players put up with it because their work arrangement is completely different from my own on every relevant level
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dustin Pedroia officially retired. Since he made it official, enjoy this ad featuring him that made me chuckle aloud. https://twitter.com/Ben13Porter/status/1356305475546054656
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