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Larryb posted:Seems like the writers for the Sonic series since Colors have been let go as well: Good. They wrote a fun script in Colors but basically ran out of steam immediately after that.
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Pants Donkey posted:It does worry me that we’re back to “well they had plenty of time to work on something good” and we end up with another game they spent like a year on.
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Jan 31, 2021 18:54
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They even delayed the 25th anniversary games a year, and still ended up Forces in its current state!
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MorningMoon posted:I guess we are for sure seeing a "new start" with the next game. Wouldn't even be too shocked if the new cartoon is a direct tie-in to the game. Just makes me real nervous because that's sorta what happened with Forces. I feel like this transition was happening while Forces was going on, given that the comic reboot and Mania cartoons were going on at the same time. I'm hoping that Forces was just left behind in the mess, and the next game has a renewed focus with a fresh, more enthusiastic team. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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Colors was a fun time but I very quickly got sick of Pontac and Graff’s writing style after that. The constant barrage of irony, sarcasm, self-deprecation, references, wore itself thin, it felt like the energy had just been sucked out of the stories I’d rather have a plot that’s confidently stupid than one that’s just constantly having the characters go “oh a deadly battlestation in space, how original, boy Eggman must be running out of ideas as I right fellas?” Augus fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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Forces had this weird thing where the avatar character is this anxiety ridden sack of nerves whose only joined up a month ago, yet in action is at once spiderman, a speedster and armed with a modest Ratchet and Clank arsenal. And also Knuckles leads the resistance despite his only tactics being let the newb handle it and
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Caidin posted:Forces had this weird thing where the avatar character is this anxiety ridden sack of nerves whose only joined up a month ago, yet in action is at once spiderman, a speedster and armed with a modest Ratchet and Clank arsenal. And also Knuckles leads the resistance despite his only tactics being let the newb handle it and Also why is the easily duped hermit who lives alone on an island and loves fighting in charge of a resistance group?
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I'd take a game with the tone of AoStH over SatAM any day. Edit: ↓↓↓ Agreed. Hesse and crew knocked it out of the park, and I really wish that they were at the helm instead. azurite fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Jan 31, 2021 21:53
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I vastly prefer the saturday morning goofball poo poo that doesn’t take the war between mad scientist and talking blue hedgehog too seriously. That poo poo led to the horrible Shadow and Sonic ‘06 stories. Honestly I like Mania’s direction.
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Feb 1, 2021 00:39
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I just want news, Sega. A teaser trailer, a poster, anything!
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I liked things at about the adventure series level of writing. Where's that one fall?
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Unleashed's tone was pretty good, and the Pixar-style humans were fine, just do that again but without the silly werehog this time. if you need a slower character to punch stuff, Knuckles is right there
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Caidin posted:I liked things at about the adventure series level of writing. Where's that one fall? I think the Adventures lucked out and landed in the "so bad it's good" category.
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Homora Gaykemi posted:Unleashed's tone was pretty good, and the Pixar-style humans were fine, just do that again but without the silly werehog this time. if you need a slower character to punch stuff, Knuckles is right there Sonic and Knuckles 2
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Flynn writing is Sonic writing at it's peak, but I'm a sucker for the wild sincere anime bullshit exemplified in the Adventure games and the other sixth generation games to a lesser extent. Forces should've learned even more into that. One thing I know is the guy responsible writing Shadow's character arc was completely sincere in his love for the character and I admire that. I don't really care for AoSTH, but I respect it. The Sonic Boom cartoon was a little hit or miss with it's jokes IMO.
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Adventure 1 had heart and charm and knew how to take itself just seriously enough. 2 is when it poo poo the bed in the story department imo
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On the other hand, Shadow is very cool
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sonic adventure 2's writing is almost immaculate, the only flaw is there isn't more of it
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SA2 takes itself so seriously that it becomes insanely funny. I'm not sure how to define 06's damage cause it has poo poo that should be even funnier but it's just miserable and unpleasant instead.
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adventure 2 was cool as gently caress when I played it as a kid and I think it's still very good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFRPvWe-EM Never forget.
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Sayonara... Shadow The Hedgehog.
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that fact that that was "adios" in the japanese script and they changed it to japanese in the english version kills me to this day
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Amppelix posted:that fact that that was "adios" in the japanese script and they changed it to japanese in the english version kills me to this day In the Spanish version he says "do svidanya".
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Amppelix posted:that fact that that was "adios" in the japanese script and they changed it to japanese in the english version kills me to this day makes sense to me, honestly. older yugioh did a lot of the same, like "lightning bolt" became "raigeki". then there's motherfucking giant trunade which I'm pretty sure is a mistransliteration of a word the original name did not use
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i would be more willing to interpret it charitably if this wasn't also the game with "yosh" and "teriyaaaaaaaaa"
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Reminder that Sonic Adventure 2's story is bad and poo poo, as described in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJuLcakn3Y
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MJeff posted:Reminder that Sonic Adventure 2's story is bad and poo poo, as described in this video. that video owns
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Sonic Adventure 2 is literally just a shounen anime plot, it’s not actually all that grimdark and serious. Pants Donkey posted:I vastly prefer the saturday morning goofball poo poo that doesn’t take the war between mad scientist and talking blue hedgehog too seriously. That poo poo led to the horrible Shadow and Sonic ‘06 stories. a serious story that is unintentionally hilarious is endlessly entertaining. a story that thinks it’s hilarious when it just isn’t, that’s pure torture. Augus fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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the thing i liked about SA2's story is it was essentially written like a sincere action movie, and every cutscene knew it had to be delivering something "cool" and "badass" first and foremost. that level of sincere-but-not-exactly-serious worked very well for sonic
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I know the story in Heroes was an afterthought, with the writer having to come up with something for each team to do after everything else in the game was decided on, but it’s still really bad. The characters were all simplified and had nothing interesting to say to each other despite talking constantly during gameplay. Something I appreciate about early video game cutscenes is how they were as long as they needed to be and not a second more. SA2 and the PS2 Ratchet and Clank games were like this. Sure they could end pretty abruptly, but they’re so fast paced I don’t mind sitting through them again on replays.
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Homora Gaykemi posted:Unleashed's tone was pretty good, and the Pixar-style humans were fine, just do that again but without the silly werehog this time. if you need a slower character to punch stuff, Knuckles is right there
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I'm entirely unsure what you could mean by that. Since when have cutscenes started not being as long as they need to be?
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Yeah, aside from maybe the intro to a few of the Last Stories (such as SA2, Shadow, and 06) I can’t really think of a cutscene in a Sonic game that was overly long.
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Amppelix posted:I'm entirely unsure what you could mean by that. Since when have cutscenes started not being as long as they need to be? Insert some critique of MGS1 era Hideo Kojima here I guess For sonic yeah idk
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https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1356240896870797315 knowing literally nothing about this except this logo it already doesn't look promising
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Knowing what Man of Action did to Mega Man, I'm not optimistic.
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Sonic primes himself to become a bad canadian cartoon
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