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It feels like New Vegas is the plot of what would have been Fallout 4 had Van Buren been released, since assuming an NCR victory the endgame of Van Buren is the NCR consolidating their hold on the dam while the Legion is an up and coming faction.
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It's hard to take how a Fallout 4 would have worked out after Van Buren given the changes in direction that happened between when Avellone was lead and Sawyer was lead and the troubles at Interplay. It's kinda difficult to untangle all of that in a thought experiment, after all the reason Avellone left was because Interplay was in trouble, and under his lead Caesar's Legion was a completely different faction (depending on your point of view, that might have been good actually).
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The end of Lonesome Road was adapted from a Van Buren thing as well, I think. In the endgame an automated system was going to launch some nukes and couldn't be stopped, all you could do would be to choose one or two locations that you'd visited to get wiped out
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I don't know if I can embed YouTube discussions from my phone app but apparently tks mantis has been getting continued harassment from xilandro over his criticism of The Frontier.
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Having watched a good 12 hours of someone attempting to play this gd mod, it taking a bullet to the head is a loving mercy
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I will likely have to replay lonesome road but i remember not liking the whole nuke aspect of it. Seems antithetical to the setting.
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Feb 1, 2021 18:48
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Arcsquad12 posted:I don't know if I can embed YouTube discussions from my phone app but apparently tks mantis has been getting continued harassment from xilandro over his criticism of The Frontier. This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhCHVhXhIhk
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Magmarashi posted:Having watched a good 12 hours of someone attempting to play this gd mod, it taking a bullet to the head is a loving mercy It's back on the Nexus.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:20
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No not his video. On TKs Mantis's youtube community page he's posted some images of a Twitter fight where Xilandro is being hostile to him but I can't share community pages from mobile.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:33
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Magmarashi posted:Having watched a good 12 hours of someone attempting to play this gd mod, it taking a bullet to the head is a loving mercy The amount of times in this loving thing that you do something, and the game acknowledges you did it, and NPCs acknowledge you did it, and then it turns around and acts like YOU DIDN'T is astounding.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:45
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egwP_kuJUNc
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Arcsquad12 posted:No not his video. On TKs Mantis's youtube community page he's posted some images of a Twitter fight where Xilandro is being hostile to him but I can't share community pages from mobile. It sounds like a spat between his Discord community and the Frontier one, to be honest. I checked it on Twitter, and while it's overall quite childish, the Frontier modder has a point in that TkMantis accused them of some specific things but then never provided screenshots.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:55
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Was TKSMantis that guy who voiced a character in the Frontier but got canned from the project due to illness throwing off his voice and them wanting to meet their imposed deadlines, then made a video complaining about that fact while trying to vengefully stir poo poo about it before it came out?
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Ironslave posted:Was TKSMantis that guy who voiced a character in the Frontier but got canned from the project due to illness throwing off his voice and them wanting to meet their imposed deadlines, then made a video complaining about that fact while trying to vengefully stir poo poo about it before it came out? I feel like anyone involved with this project will already have it following them around like an albatross if they want an industry job, no need to stir more poo poo.
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Ironslave posted:Was TKSMantis that guy who voiced a character in the Frontier but got canned from the project due to illness throwing off his voice and them wanting to meet their imposed deadlines, then made a video complaining about that fact while trying to vengefully stir poo poo about it before it came out? yyyeeeeeeep it's like a multi-headed drama hydra, everywhere you look it's something new (and dumb) ((and you can probably gently caress it))
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Arcsquad12 posted:No not his video. On TKs Mantis's youtube community page he's posted some images of a Twitter fight where Xilandro is being hostile to him but I can't share community pages from mobile.  https://www.youtube.com/post/UgwPX0jNxoSgfxjTTUp4AaABCQ e; Ironslave posted:Was TKSMantis that guy who voiced a character in the Frontier but got canned from the project due to illness throwing off his voice and them wanting to meet their imposed deadlines, then made a video complaining about that fact while trying to vengefully stir poo poo about it before it came out? "Vengefully stir poo poo" like calling out the gross and laughable stuff in the mod, it would seem. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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MariusLecter posted:"Vengefully stir poo poo" like calling out the gross and laughable stuff in the mod, it would seem. Mostly he just complained about the sex lizards sans context (since it was the only possibly-lovely thing he knew about explicitly, as far as I'm aware) after whinging for a long time about eventually being replaced. That the Frontier turned out to be terrible in most of the ways that counted doesn't somehow make it less vindictive or less an attempt at defamation considering nobody--including him--was aware of the extent of how atrocious the thing was.
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I do like how several modders who contributed to the mod are jumping ship because they weren't aware of the crazy.
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Ironslave posted:sex lizards sans context wasn't that Big Boss's group
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Schwarzwald posted:wasn't that Big Boss's group given everything else in the mod- Arcsquad12 posted:I do like how several modders who contributed to the mod are jumping ship because they weren't aware of the crazy. It's wild the complete lack of cohesion between anyone in the mod. I'm less surprised parts turned out bad--since every piece is going into it is going to be generally be developed by a different person or group--but the degree to which they all turned out bad and the lack of actual exchange or even the most minor bit of coordination between teams and individuals.
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Feb 1, 2021 23:42
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Ironslave posted:given everything else in the mod- Hasn't this been in development for an absolutely silly amount of years? I think most people are motivated by contributing to a big project for a cult game, not the idea that they're working on Courier Kane.
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Ironslave posted:Mostly he just complained about the sex lizards sans context (since it was the only possibly-lovely thing he knew about explicitly, as far as I'm aware) after whinging for a long time about eventually being replaced. That the Frontier turned out to be terrible in most of the ways that counted doesn't somehow make it less vindictive or less an attempt at defamation considering nobody--including him--was aware of the extent of how atrocious the thing was. Attempt at defamation? lmao come the gently caress on. e; Frontier devs keep trying to find scapegoats and it's pathetic. Oh no some whiney youtuber ruined our mod! MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Hasn't this been in development for an absolutely silly amount of years? I think most people are motivated by contributing to a big project for a cult game, not the idea that they're working on Courier Kane. It has been, and that's part of why it's so crazy. The idea that over all that time barely anyone actually coordinated with each other is absurd, but somehow is exactly what happened. I would expect some parts to gel together but no part actually does. And what's even more surprising is that over this entire period no tell-alls leaked about how awful people were at working together. I've been following this since 2014 and their self-promoting was somehow the most solid part of them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59HJqB6kcE Lol, the big New Vegas mods are becoming the prequel trilogy and the sequel trilogy in how they are bad. New California is bad but it's also a singular vision by one guy who knew what story he wanted to tell. The George Lucas Approach. The Frontier is a cobbled together mess from multiple takes and rewrites that doesn't mesh well at all and by the end you've got a Rise of Skywalker degree of bad ideas and incoherent storytelling. The Disney Approach. And now you've got people pointing at one another to shout which mod is worse.
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lol, if the Enclave had a giant gently caress off orbital laser space station this whole time, why was blowing up the oil rig such a big deal?
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Paul Revere 3000 posted:lol, if the Enclave had a giant gently caress off orbital laser space station this whole time, why was blowing up the oil rig such a big deal? Powered by oil.
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It cost four hundred thousand barrels of dinosaur bones to fire this weapon for twelve seconds.
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What was New California again? Was that the jocks vs nerds vault?
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its great that the mods have turned the courier, a character that is such a blank slate that avellone wrote a dlc about how blank they are, into basically the emperor from warhammer
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New California's thing was something like, the protagonist was the protagonist from Fallout 1 mutated with an anti-aging serum and ended up with his memories erased and becoming the protagonist from New Vegas
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2house2fly posted:New California's thing was something like, the protagonist was the protagonist from Fallout 1 mutated with an anti-aging serum and ended up with his memories erased and becoming the protagonist from New Vegas That's certianly... a thing.
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59HJqB6kcE That guy is wearing a red hat and that's a little too on the nose.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:That guy is wearing a red hat and that's a little too on the nose. As someone in either this thread or the other New Vegas thread pointed out, the vice president in 2 was Dan Quayle. It's exactly as on-the-nose as the Enclave has always been.
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2house2fly posted:New California's thing was something like, the protagonist was the protagonist from Fallout 1 mutated with an anti-aging serum and ended up with his memories erased and becoming the protagonist from New Vegas Close - they were a mutant clone of the Vault Dweller. Cloned from a blood smear if I remember right.
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The Frontier is looking for more voice actors and devs to replace the VAs and devs who demanded to have their work removed from the mod. Who in their right mind would volunteer for this mod at this point? 
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Feb 2, 2021 10:06
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multiple people volunteered to be horny snakes and sex slaves
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Farm Frenzy posted:multiple people volunteered to be horny snakes and sex slaves but! according to the devs, no one else knew what the other devs were doing! Remember? 
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It's easy when you're just voicing one character to assume that the scene they'll be used in has more complex working parts or the story itself has a tone it fits. And I imagine a lot of people aren't pulling out of the project for who they voiced, but rather for what it's in. Exposure is good, even if the project is bad, but not when the project is reviled. What I want to know is how the voice director was viewing all this. I'm guessing recording lines out of order probably would've kept them from putting the pieces together until they saw the whole puzzle. Edit: Also, people rarely volunteer for specific roles, they volunteer and then are cast. Ironslave fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Did they even have a voice director that was consistent for everything? I'd expect either no voice direction or multiple voice directors that worked on different parts of the game.
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