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High Scholar For what its worth, I do believe that House Gambol is the one who deserves to have their voice be heard the most. Let us remember that, while it may be well in the past, Solad lands were once part of Mhuir. Beyond that, I will continue to listen to the sides of this debate... Though House Daucus has its priorities to help the people, of course...
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Jan 31, 2021 21:44
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Feb 1, 2021 00:27
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Sitting Councilmember The people of Mhuir serve the Mother as we do; I see no particular reason to doubt their intentions in this matter. Thus, I lean towards Aye as the correct choice. That said, it seems there are other houses who hold this matter dear to their hearts, so I currently intend to defer (barring a deal of some sort from our noble treasurer).
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Feb 1, 2021 02:53
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megane posted:
High Scholar But they claim to be more "culturally advanced" than us. Perhaps their practices have changed, or The Mother has loosened her influence on the country. Perhaps they have become, Mother forbid, Protestant Mother Worshippers!
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Feb 1, 2021 03:51
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eliasswift posted:
Treasurer House Daucus not being interested in potential "culturally advanced" knowledge? I never thought I'd see the day! Besides, those are nothing but rumors, I doubt the Houses in the Bloody War of 143 would have been able to keep such secrets from spreading far and wide when they joined our Queendom. A friendlier relationship with Mhuir would also allow us to spread The Mother's Word to more receptive ears, as we did when House Daucus entered our realm! There is no profit in poisoning your customers. Turning down those touched by Aegna's wisdom and Raela's prosperity would be foolish. The Great Mother only helps those who help themselves. As an additional point, we may not be the only ones suffering from the folly stirred up on our northern border. Blessed be The Mother. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Feb 1, 2021 04:07
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We have now passed the midpoint for this Dilemma! Please remember to cast your vote before the deadline, in about 24h.
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Feb 1, 2021 12:53
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 Sitting councilmember It's that time of the year again, and House Gambol is willing to hear
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Feb 1, 2021 13:30
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 Foreman This is an obvious trap and I can't believe you lot are falling for it. When the time comes to resolve the consequences of this folly, we'll all be worse off for having involved a foreign party into a purely internal affair. Only House Gambol seems to recognize the inherent danger in "offers" such as these, but since they appear to need a little more persuasion, we offer 3 coins for 3 or more power on a Nay vote.
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Feb 1, 2021 16:00
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Inadequately posted:
Navigator House Gambol does appreciate your interest here and would be willing to lend support, but not at the rate you have suggested. The family does not feel extremely strongly about this issue. As a counter-offer: 3 coins for 2 of our Power to Nay.
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Feb 1, 2021 16:12
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I'm sure the peasantry will be pleased to note that their starvation is for sale.
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Feb 1, 2021 16:58
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oldskool posted:
Navigator If you feel so strongly for their plight, I'm sure you would jump at a chance to ensure our support on the same terms: 3 coins for 2 of our Power to Aye. ooc: We did build them windmills. I wonder if the cards are linked, or if there will simply be a "sire, the peasants!" situation every now and again.
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Feb 1, 2021 17:36
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 Sitting Councilmember House Cyfoeth will accept House Gambol's offer of 3 coins for 2 power for Aye. If this is what it takes to get food to the people, it's a price we're willing to pay.
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Feb 1, 2021 17:50
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C... posted:
[ooc] The windmills didn't trigger a new envelope IIRC. It's probably a "sires, the peasants" dilemma that happens every now and then.
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Feb 1, 2021 18:01
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Senator What my colleague is trying to say is what's been already stated. Grain this cheap doesn't make sense unless there's something wrong with it. If they're trying to offload it this easily, they're not telling us something, and it doesn't help our citizens much to stave off hunger only to be afflicted with disease instead.
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Feb 1, 2021 18:27
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Danaru posted:
Senator That's not actually an offer we've made, so it'll have to wait for our navigator to see. We'll treat this as an offer you're makign in the mean time.
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Feb 1, 2021 18:33
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Nea posted:House Gambol Is it not? C... posted:
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Feb 1, 2021 18:45
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They're asking Daucus to give Gambol 3 coins for 2 Aye. Basically you've said Cyfoeth is open to the same offer but nobody has yet extended the coin side of that.
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Feb 1, 2021 18:50
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Gambol offered to put two power on Aye if they get three coins. I offered them three coins. I'm not sure what I'm missing here
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Feb 1, 2021 18:57
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The "Cyfoeth is offering coins" bit I know I didn't get. It's also not an offer yet made expressly to Cyfoeth, but to Daucus.
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Feb 1, 2021 19:06
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Danaru posted:
Navigator The syntax caused a ruckus, here, but you are paying us to weigh in Aye, and we will do so. I think saying it's our "offer of 3 coins" implied that we're paying you. Perhaps "Offer of 2 power for 3 coins" or "Proposal of 3 coins for 2 power" for next time!
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Feb 1, 2021 19:57
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Danaru posted:Is it not? Senator What you're missing here is that I missed a post earlier and that you were completely right and i was wrong, sorry!
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Feb 1, 2021 20:00
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Nea posted:House Gambol <3
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Feb 1, 2021 20:07
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Danaru posted:
Witnessed! House Cyfoeth will pay 3 coins to House Gambol. House Gambol will vote Aye with 2 Power. (Unless I got confused  )
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Feb 1, 2021 20:41
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Blastinus posted:
Treasurer Once again, what you are suggesting is highly improbable. I would think that House Pinchay of all Houses would understand the ability to profit via sales of volume? Poisoned grain would be tantamount to an act of war, and given how the last foray into conflict went for Mhuir I doubt they have the taste for more misfortune. House Gambol can attest to that!
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Feb 1, 2021 21:14
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Senator I can surely understand My Lords' collective wariness of grain at these prices, but it is grain we need and grain they have. Surely as we have some of the most learned men in any of the nearby kingdoms any miasma that may accompany these foodstuffs could be cured, but what can not be cured are dead peasants, starving families, fields left untended due to hunger, famine must be avoided lest it begin a downward spiral of death and hardship.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:31
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That Italian Guy posted:Witnessed! That's the deal, yes. Hey, I don't have to send a PM this way 
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Feb 1, 2021 21:45
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Omobono posted:
[OOC] PMs? I thought houses weren't allowed to communicate with one another outside the thread (and the discord server, which doesn't have inter-house comms).
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Quackles posted:[OOC] PMs? I thought houses weren't allowed to communicate with one another outside the thread (and the discord server, which doesn't have inter-house comms). To me, with the vote 
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That Italian Guy posted:To me, with the vote Ahhhhhhh.  Now I understand.EDIT: I just realized: We've been scooped - someone else asked to be bought off this round instead of us.
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Reign of Queen Ilysia I, Dilemma 1, Resolution Vote Results posted:
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Reign of Queen Ilysia I, Dilemma 2 History of the Kingdom of Ankist posted:Hall of Rulers - Foreman/Sitting Councilmember: Blastinus (also Treasurer)   - Sitting Councilmember: C... - Treasurer/Navigator: Nea - Sitting Councilmember: Sighence (also Treasurer) - High Scholar/Sitting Councilmember: oldskool (also Treasurer)   - Sitting Councilmember: Bellmaker - Treasurer/Negotiator: SporkChan Dilemma2 posted:
 A 48h voting window is now open! - Sitting Councilmembers can send me a PM/Email with their final decision. Please consult the OP if you need a refresher on the rules! - Treasurers can now start bribing. Please consult the OP if you need a refresher on the rules! - Senators are free to discuss the Dilemma and provide their feedback. Don't forget that every choice could have consequences that are not spelled out outright on the front of the card! Also, please remember that the thread is the main discussion platform for your vote intention - the Sheet is only to be used when discussing high level strategy, bargaining strategies and items on the sheet itself.
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Can we afford this? I'm honestly not sure. This feels like a strange one to weigh in on. I suppose I'm leaning slightly Nay, but this one is very  , at least for the moment.EDIT: Oh f###, I forgot to make a Status Report last round. Quackles fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Feb 2, 2021 11:44
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[ooc]holy hidden results Batman[/ooc] Senator I think we should avoid taxing further taxing the Queendom's treasury for a joust that could possibly boost morale. Or reduce influence when the black knight (it's always a black knight) pops up and makes our knights look like fools. Seriously, if some noble houses want a joust that badly they can sponsor it themselves. Speaking of, we have some invitations for the annual House Gambol regatta, any takers? [ooc]no seriously  [/ooc]
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Feb 2, 2021 12:32
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Foreman There is definitely something about this tournament that isn't apparent on its face. It's difficult to tell for sure what the impact will be of refusing to host it. It's possible that no matter what we do, we'll end up losing resources. For now, I'm leaning Aye but that's just under the suspicion that we've gotten ourselves into a bad situation just by picking this card in the first place.
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[ooc]okay wheat the hell?![/ooc] Sitting Councilman Our people need something to celebrate now that the famine is over! A tournament would provide much needed joy to our kingdom and military. It should mostly break even anyways cost-wise, given how merchants all over Ankist will flock to the scene. Blessed be The Mother. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Feb 2, 2021 14:15
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By the way, taking bets on where the fertilizer that was used for the newly bought bread falls, on a scale that goes from "everything above board" to "soylent green".
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Omobono posted:
Sitting Councilman I’m being told this new grain is being called rye Blessed be The Mother.
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Feb 2, 2021 16:36
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Treasurer/Navigator I'm pro joust. I think we all need some fun little relaxation times. We can find new generals or heroes from this. There could be some sort of dramatic twist or turn. I haven't had Joust Food in twenty years. Please let us joust.
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Omobono posted:
I'm sure that 
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Senator Black, ashy bread? Clearly My Lords have just never tasted the wonder that is pumpernickel bread, there's nothing strange about these shipments other than the new technique for fertilizer the Mhuirans have developed. In regards to this tourney however, I'm not convinced. Considering the cost to the treasury that feeding our people has cost, I'd find it less palatable than the bread we've imported to spend the same if not more on something wasteful as a tourney when real hardships may be just around the corner.
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