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Hadlock posted:I have the DS418 which predates the M.2 ssd/nvme cache slot Don't use a write cache. Just google and you'll find horror stories from the community where the most common response to "hey, i had mirrored SSD cache drives, one died and now my volume is corrupt?" is "yep, you're the latest one to get bitten, don't do that." Happened to me, it didn't just tank the stuff I stored on the volume that happened to be cached but also the system files. I started seeing weird behavior, submitted a ticket to support and they said "oh yeah, logs show that your system volume is turbo hosed." Wiped everything, did a bare metal reinstall of the base OS, restored backup and learned my lesson.
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I feel like I super screwed something up and I'm not sure where to start. I took apart my TrueNAS box to install some new fans, and when I booted it back up, it wasn't finding my pools. It says pool status as offline, but I can't quite see how to... uh, turn it back on? I tried a few things in zpool, but nothign seemed like it was working. Any suggestions?
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KKKLIP ART posted:I feel like I super screwed something up and I'm not sure where to start. I took apart my TrueNAS box to install some new fans, and when I booted it back up, it wasn't finding my pools. It says pool status as offline, but I can't quite see how to... uh, turn it back on? I tried a few things in zpool, but nothign seemed like it was working. What does zpool list show you? If the pool shows offline, did you try zpool online?
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Are all the disks showing up? May have a bad cable connection or something, especially if you were moving components around. What's the output of zpool status -x
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Actuarial Fables posted:Are all the disks showing up? May have a bad cable connection or something, especially if you were moving components around. Yeah it is strange, none of my disks are actually showing up. I'll check the cables. I don't think I swapped anything by accident. 
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KKKLIP ART posted:Yeah it is strange, none of my disks are actually showing up. I'll check the cables. I don't think I swapped anything by accident. If you're using an HBA check to make sure it's seated properly. I've had this situation a few times where I've moved stuff in a case and rear end of the HBA ends up popping up out of a 16x slot. Power down the computer and give the card a firm push into the socket and reboot. That usually takes care of things. Again this assumes you are using an HBA.
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:I have a TS140 and want to upgrade the i3 to a Xeon. It takes the E3-1200 V3 models but I was hoping on some advice for a specific one to get. I assume I should at the very least narrow down to the 8 thread models? It looks like Plex on Unraid should be able to use Quicksync so narrow it even further which leaves me at the E3-1245. Lenovo says it is compatible. Anything else I should be considering? It gets you QuickSync support for 10-bit h265 and vp8, two BSD rings to allow encoding and decoding at the same time, adds SMAP, and OpenCL 2.0 - all while using much less power. Shouldn't cost you any more than a v3 CPU either. KKKLIP ART posted:I feel like I super screwed something up and I'm not sure where to start. I took apart my TrueNAS box to install some new fans, and when I booted it back up, it wasn't finding my pools. It says pool status as offline, but I can't quite see how to... uh, turn it back on? I tried a few things in zpool, but nothign seemed like it was working. If not and you think your HBA is wrong, check /var/run/dmesg.boot for mpsN, mfiN, mptN, or mprN devices and use mpsutil, mfiutil, mptutil, or mprutil to find out if the HBA sees the disks. If you've got an old output of dmesg lying around, you can also check that for those devices to see if it's disappeared. Nulldevice posted:If you're using an HBA check to make sure it's seated properly. I've had this situation a few times where I've moved stuff in a case and rear end of the HBA ends up popping up out of a 16x slot. Power down the computer and give the card a firm push into the socket and reboot. That usually takes care of things. Again this assumes you are using an HBA. Reseating the device completely is usually not a bad idea in these situations. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:I have a TS140 and want to upgrade the i3 to a Xeon. It takes the E3-1200 V3 models but I was hoping on some advice for a specific one to get. I assume I should at the very least narrow down to the 8 thread models? It looks like Plex on Unraid should be able to use Quicksync so narrow it even further which leaves me at the E3-1245. Lenovo says it is compatible. Anything else I should be considering? Do you actually need to upgrade? An i3 4130 can handle transcoding at least 2 1080p streams in realtime generally. It is more powerful than what many modern NAS come with, has quicksync, supports all the same cpu instructions as the e3, v3 xeon, has similar single core performance. It would have no problem streaming any 4k files without transcoding either, it is pretty easy to find clients with x265 and newer codec support these days. It doesn't do vt-d, that allows you to pass through some hardware directly to a guest vm. Practically this means running unraid bare metal. And a 4 core or thread cpu would be faster The xeons ending in 0 dont have integrated video. The models ending in L are lower performance/power and not worth it if you want an upgrade.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Make sure you check whether there's firmware update to let you run a Xeon v4 - some manufacturers supplied these, so that users could upgrade from Haswell to Broadwell without switching motherboard. lampey posted:Do you actually need to upgrade? An i3 4130 can handle transcoding at least 2 1080p streams in realtime generally. It is more powerful than what many modern NAS come with, has quicksync, supports all the same cpu instructions as the e3, v3 xeon, has similar single core performance. It would have no problem streaming any 4k files without transcoding either, it is pretty easy to find clients with x265 and newer codec support these days. No particular reason outside of just wanting to tinker. You make some good points. Teabag Dome Scandal fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Didn't realize TrueNAS SCALE existed until today and now I'm rethinking my life choices as I start eyeing external drives to copy my data over and do a clean install...
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Didn't realize TrueNAS SCALE existed until today and now I'm rethinking my life choices as I start eyeing external drives to copy my data over and do a clean install... It's not really ready for a real deployment yet. I'd wait another few months until its feature complete unless you're putting it on a "loving around on" box. Regular TrueNas core and TrueNas scale will both use the same file system so you can literally just overwrite the BSD based OS of TrueNAS core with Scale when it's ready, remount your zRaid arrays and be back up and running unless you're also running a bunch of jails or whatever which won't work in Scale I'd imagine. What would people recommend for a silent NAS build for a TrueNAS setup? An Atom based system? It would be doing Plex serving, and possibly some transcoding of 4k, as well as some light server work with stuff like Sonarr and Nextcloud.
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Nitrousoxide posted:It's not really ready for a real deployment yet. I'd wait another few months until its feature complete unless you're putting it on a "loving around on" box. Regular TrueNas core and TrueNas scale will both use the same file system so you can literally just overwrite the BSD based OS of TrueNAS core with Scale when it's ready, remount your zRaid arrays and be back up and running unless you're also running a bunch of jails or whatever which won't work in Scale I'd imagine. Keep in mind if you’re gonna transcode 4K AND it’s x265, you’re gonna want a video card. Unless it’s a higher end CPU, I’ve not seen great transcode performance of x265 from CPUs. If you’re doing x264, then ignore that.
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Nitrousoxide posted:
I don't think you're going to get passive cooled ("silent") plus those things. At least not in a single box. At least not for a reasonable amount of money and space. You would be better off picking up several devices, one of which is something that can just natively play your 4k content. If you're willing to go "very quiet" then suddenly the world opens up. Are you going to be using ssd's? If not the whine of the hard drives is going to be louder than a well cooled (massive low speed fans, giant heat sink on the cpu/gpu) computer capable of those tasks.
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rufius posted:Keep in mind if you’re gonna transcode 4K AND it’s x265, you’re gonna want a video card. Unless it’s a higher end CPU, I’ve not seen great transcode performance of x265 from CPUs. Adding to this, what would be a decent lower-cost card to do transcoding or encoding to x265? I've been upgrading a lot of stuff to 4k x265, but a few clients choke on it. Plus I'd like to add OTA capture, and encode those captures down as small as possible. Currently my NAS is a desktop running Ubuntu LTS and a ZFS pool.
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Didn't realize TrueNAS SCALE existed until today and now I'm rethinking my life choices as I start eyeing external drives to copy my data over and do a clean install... Since they use Linux, you instead have to use ctld to export a zvol via iSCSI. In related news, I'll be participating in a zoom call today, which will involve a way to build FreeBSD in such a way that it contains a minimal kernel and just enough userland utilities to work with bhyve and Xen hypervisors. Effectively gives you a type-1 hypervisor based on FreeBSD.
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PitViper posted:Adding to this, what would be a decent lower-cost card to do transcoding or encoding to x265? I've been upgrading a lot of stuff to 4k x265, but a few clients choke on it. Plus I'd like to add OTA capture, and encode those captures down as small as possible. Currently my NAS is a desktop running Ubuntu LTS and a ZFS pool. I’ll second this, I’m starting to play with unRaid on a Thinkserver TS-140 and would want x265 ability.
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Lower cost video cards no longer exist for the time being, check back in six months maybe?
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:It's just too bad they picked Linux, because otherwise it would've been an excellent use of ggated/ggatec to export zvols via GEOM over the network. You seem like you are pretty high up in your industry.
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PitViper posted:Adding to this, what would be a decent lower-cost card to do transcoding or encoding to x265? I've been upgrading a lot of stuff to 4k x265, but a few clients choke on it. Plus I'd like to add OTA capture, and encode those captures down as small as possible. Currently my NAS is a desktop running Ubuntu LTS and a ZFS pool. In the past I’ve seen the Nvidia 1030 come up. It comes in a low profile format. Other ideas I’ve seen thrown around is running Plex on an odroid or RPi-esque thing. I’ve never done the odroid thing so no real experience. In my case, for a short while I ran Plex on my workstation box which has a 1080Ti in it. That worked well enough but I’ve since forced all of my family onto Apple TV 4k’s and they all have gigabit.
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So nothing I am looking at has fixed my offline pool issue. I might get some new SATA cables, but I think I'd need new hardware or something because my case has a hotswap backplane in it and maybe that's what went bad. Kinda wish I had something stupid simple like a Synology setup but I don't have the cash to move over and at this point I can't get to my data to move over to a new platform anyway. I can hear the drives spinning up, so I know they get power, and they are new drives (like 4 months old) so I don't think it is a premature failure of all 3 drives. Kinda at a loss.
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savesthedayrocks posted:I’ll second this, I’m starting to play with unRaid on a Thinkserver TS-140 and would want x265 ability. Thirding this in the hope it could somehow be worked out for the TS430
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Smashing Link posted:You seem like you are pretty high up in your industry.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:It's just too bad they picked Linux, because otherwise it would've been an excellent use of ggated/ggatec to export zvols via GEOM over the network. unfffff trip report please. For those looking for a good card to transcode with money to burn and one that you can actually find available these days, Quadro P2000 is what I run. Expensive, but no external power, single slot and it works.
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Wouldn't something like this work fine for the GPU for the transcoding? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-PCI-E2-0-Graphics-ZT-71302-20L/dp/B01AZ7W88O/?tag=akshatblog198-20 Does TrueNAS support GPU passthrough for Plex to actually use it?
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:What industry? It's just a NYCBUG thing - the only reason I brought it up is because I was able to attend is as my sleep schedule is foobar. I assumed you were a high level systems administrator at a large company from your knowledge base.
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According to this chart https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding that 710 doesn't support H.265. Looks like you'd want at least a 1030 I also run a QuadroP2000 and it JustWorks e: just checked amazon/ebay and you can pick up a p2000 for less than I paid a few years ago for one, which you can't really say for any other GPUs right about now Enos Cabell fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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I recently discovered that my 8 port raid card in my NAS appears to have died. It was a card using the LSI SAS 2008 chipset (an IBM M1015, the one that everybody was using 7 years ago when I first got it). Spending a few minutes searching, it looks like there's a lot of inexpensive 8 port cards like this where it's got 6 ports driven by a Marvell 88SE9215 and the other 2 ports driven by JMB5xx. I'm driving a zfs pool on Ubuntu, so I'd need something that will work in Ubuntu and will just present the bare drives to the OS (don't need to boot from any of them). Are those types of cards the new hotness for us grognards still running our own purpose built NAS, or are there better options right now?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Wouldn't something like this work fine for the GPU for the transcoding? Not if you want to do HEVC/x265. That codec is most commonly used these days for UHD/4K content. Enos Cabell posted:According to this chart https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding that 710 doesn't support H.265. Looks like you'd want at least a 1030 Correct. The 1030 is usually the cheapest for a low profile design. I don’t know much about the p2000 but what Enos said.
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FISHMANPET posted:I recently discovered that my 8 port raid card in my NAS appears to have died. It was a card using the LSI SAS 2008 chipset (an IBM M1015, the one that everybody was using 7 years ago when I first got it). Maybe this happened: https://forums.unraid.net/topic/82469-fake-lsi-hba-cards-on-ebay/
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Well I bought it in May of 2013 and it's been humming along until the last few months, so either way I'm satisfied with the purchase I made at the time and I think I've gotten my money's worth out of it.
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Crunchy Black posted:unfffff trip report please. It's just a shell script which excludes basically every single build option possible, so that only bhyve, xen, and possibly xen-tools and nmdm(4) later on, are included. It takes up around 15MB RAM, 50MB diskspace. Oh, and it boots in 2 seconds. Nitrousoxide posted:Wouldn't something like this work fine for the GPU for the transcoding? TrueNAS core is based on FreeBSD which uses bhyve, and Base Address Register support (as well as 64bit BAR support, which is needed for mapping over (2^32)-1 bytes of VRAM) isn't yet in bhyve yet, and it's currently waiting for something else to land. Smashing Link posted:I assumed you were a high level systems administrator at a large company from your knowledge base. Enos Cabell posted:According to this chart https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding that 710 doesn't support H.265. Looks like you'd want at least a 1030  P2000 series GPUs are incredibly expensive in Denmark, it's just hilarious. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:In related news, I'll be participating in a zoom call today, which will involve a way to build FreeBSD in such a way that it contains a minimal kernel and just enough userland utilities to work with bhyve and Xen hypervisors. Awesome! If we want to see that can we just email that rsvp email listed and get in? Or is it too late for that. edit: yes it's too late because I didn't see this was yesterday. LOL.
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FISHMANPET posted:I recently discovered that my 8 port raid card in my NAS appears to have died. It was a card using the LSI SAS 2008 chipset (an IBM M1015, the one that everybody was using 7 years ago when I first got it). I snagged an LSI 9207-8i (2308 chipset) back in 10/20 for $67 shipped off ebay, even came with 2x SATA breakout cables. Using it passed through to a FreeNAS VM (ESXi host) without issues.
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Hed posted:Awesome! If we want to see that can we just email that rsvp email listed and get in? Or is it too late for that. If you wanna catch another go at the presentation, head over to the Portland Linux/Unix Group, as Michael will be presenting there at 7PM, Pacific. EDIT: Here's some build numbers from a HP DL380p with 2x Xeon E5-2667v2 at 3.3GHz and 1066MHz RAM, building on tmpfs(4): pre:--------------------------------------------------------------
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pre:8m27.89s real 28m10.16s user 2m54.02s sys pre:root@occambsd:~ # ps auxd | less USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 0 f f 0 144 - DLs 22:39 0:00.02 [kernel] root 10 f f 0 16 - RNL 22:39 0:50.12 - [idle] root 1 f f 11492 1020 - ILs 22:39 0:00.01 - /sbin/init root 352 f f 12824 2544 - Is 22:39 0:00.00 |-- /usr/sbin/cron -s root 370 f f 13440 2948 u0 Is 22:39 0:00.02 `-- login [pam] (login) root 371 f f 13472 3320 u0 S 22:39 0:00.04 `-- -sh (sh) root 375 f f 13304 2776 u0 R+ 22:40 0:00.00 |-- ps auxd root 376 f f 13472 3316 u0 R+ 22:40 0:00.00 `-- -sh (sh) root 2 f f 0 32 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [cam] root 3 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [rand_harvestq] root 4 f f 0 48 - DL 22:39 0:00.01 - [pagedaemon] root 5 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [vmdaemon] root 6 f f 0 32 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [bufdaemon] root 7 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [vnlru] root 8 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [syncer] root 9 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [soaiod1] root 11 f f 0 144 - WL 22:39 0:00.33 - [intr] root 12 f f 0 48 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [geom] root 13 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [soaiod2] root 14 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [soaiod3] root 15 f f 0 16 - DL 22:39 0:00.00 - [soaiod4] And here's its memory use: pre:Mem: 3624K Active, 372K Inact, 25M Wired, 9028K Buf, 959M Free BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Way too excited for this week's server upgrades: a 12 TB Easystore, Corsair RM850x, and a 6Gbps SAS controller card that I can hook 8 more drives up to from eBay for only $50.
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So is hard drive vibration something I need to worry about? I'm thinking about buying the Asustor Lockerstor 10 and a bunch of the Seagate Exos 16TB drives for $332 each on Newegg. I remember reading ages ago that you're supposed to buy NAS drives for anything more than four drives in a device, which is going to add another $1,500 to my cost. Alternatively, I can buy a couple of 4- or 5-bay devices and stick with non-NAS drives, but I really like the idea of integrated 10Gbe for future-proofing.
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So, I have a couple of questions if you can give me your opinion: I have one of these lying around: https://www.microcenter.com/product/437776/kingwin-superspeed-usb-30-dual-bay-sata-drive-docking-station It's old, but it has some dip switches on the back that I think can put it into RAID 1 (mirroring for redundancy, right?) I also live next to Costco which has these on sale: Seagate Backup Plus Hub 8TB Desktop Hard Drive with Rescue Data Recovery Services $139.99 each https://www.costco.com/seagate-backup-plus-hub-8tb-desktop-hard-drive-with-rescue-data-recovery-services.product.100458004.html And I have a laptop running linux that has USB 3.0. I really don't care that much about speed, and 8TB is a lot of space for us. So, my plan is to just buy two of the seagate drives above, "shuck" the drives out, put them in the dual bay thing... set it to mirror the drives, and hook it up to the laptop to share out to the network using NFS and SAMBA... Does that plan make sense? anything glaringly dumb about it? Are the prices on those drives ok? I just want to have some storage to back things (data and VM's) up locally to, netboot some raspberry pi's, that sort of thing. If I started downloading lots of 4k linux iso's, could I stream them? Transcoding shouldn't be necessary. Thanks very much... I learn a lot from this thread. I'm not really too interested in the features of a Synology/Qnap device because I already have like 5 raspberry pi's sitting around and a laptop, so I should be able to make this work, hopefully lol
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