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That Old Tree posted:Meanwhile: It's cool that they got Daniel Kwan, though.
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Dexo posted:This is a black woman who specifically asked for it. It's good that this clarification will air in a disclaimer before each episode.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:It's cool that they got Daniel Kwan, though. Yeah, and James Mendez Hodes who is also great. It goes from "a shame, but I usually don't care for media tie-ins anyway" to genuinely bummed.
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moths posted:It's good that this clarification will air in a disclaimer before each episode.
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As an old person, I understood exactly none of that. E: Am I being unclear? A massive tits muppet is embarrassing nerd poo poo in the same way that a hypersexualized anime child is. The context of who created it or how it's well actually a 700 year old dragon does nothing to de-cringe the aesthetics. moths fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Feb 3, 2021 |
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That Old Tree posted:Yeah, and James Mendez Hodes who is also great. It goes from "a shame, but I usually don't care for media tie-ins anyway" to genuinely bummed. Am I out of the loop wrt Magpie? Masks came out great.
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moths posted:It's good that this clarification will air in a disclaimer before each episode. Forgive my snark, but come on. I'm afraid it is impossible to tell this character is ran by a black woman. 
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moths posted:As an old person, I understood exactly none of that. Shanna Malcolm, the person behind the puppet, was also on that podcast and I guess has a history of doing other controversial things. So Malcolm being the one who came up with the character probably won't convince people that the character is actually good. That's why I said the hot takes would continue, regardless of disclaimer.
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That drama is certainly going to bring out some of Twitter's finest, I see what you mean. Dexo posted:I'm afraid it is impossible to tell this character is ran by a black woman. So the puppet show isn't puppets? I guess that makes as much sense as anything.
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moths posted:So the puppet show isn't puppets? Nothing makes me feel older than realising hundreds of thousands of people spend hours at a time watching other people play D&D.
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moths posted:E: Am I being unclear? A massive tits muppet is embarrassing nerd poo poo in the same way that a hypersexualized anime child is. An adult woman creating an adult character who appears to share her real-life proportions to be her avatar in a game she plays with other adults is literally nothing like anime pedobait. Like the puppet is not my thing, but like I said, the hang-wringing over it is insane. Let the woman play her silly character for god's sake. It's not going to hurt anyone.
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You must be at least this thicc to play this character.
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DoctorWhat posted:Am I out of the loop wrt Magpie? Masks came out great. The short version is that a few years ago Magpie Games' CEO, Mark Diaz Truman, made a blog post talking about how we as a community need to welcome Zak S into our communities to heal the rift between indie games and the Old School Revolution. (Note: There is no actual rift between indie games and the OSR. Also, this forum is one of the main groups arguing for Zak S being an abusive piece of poo poo who constantly starts harassment campaigns, so you hopefully heard about him already.) Truman has made apologies for this post, but they've been very late and very middling apologies. So, Magpie Games makes good games but it always makes the SA tradgames community wince when they put something out because no one really wants to give Mark Diaz Truman money. Lurks With Wolves fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Feb 3, 2021 |
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cptn_dr posted:Nothing makes me feel older than realising hundreds of thousands of people spend hours at a time watching other people play D&D. As someone who listens/watches too many actual play podcasts/streams. Most non D&D. The D&D ones I listen to require pretty absurdly talented cast members and improv. Because....yeah. It's just watching a TV/Radio show or whatever a week. With the constraints on improv being whatever system the stream/podcast is running. I should plug Friends at the Table btw, Partizan their most recent season loving owned. They played Beam Saber, and Kingdom.
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Lurks With Wolves posted:The short version is that a few years ago Magpie Games' CEO, Mark Diaz Truman, made a blog post talking about how we as a community need to welcome Zak S into our communities to heal the rift between indie games and the Old School Revolution. (Note: There is no actual rift between indie games and the OSR. Also, this forum is one of the main groups arguing for Zak S being an abusive piece of poo poo who constantly starts harassment campaigns, so you hopefully heard about him already.) Truman has made apologies for this post, but they've been very late and very middling apologies. So, Magpie Games makes good games but it always makes the SA tradgames community wince when they put something out because no one really wants to give Mark Diaz Truman money. I am glad I got Masks before I knew about it.
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CitizenKeen posted:But it seems like a bad look for the House of Mearls. This is it in a nutshell.
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Excited for the sequel where a guy wants to play a big dicked puppet, and we audit his IRL dong to ensure it's the appropriate length.
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mellonbread posted:Excited for the sequel where a guy wants to play a big dicked puppet, and we audit his IRL dong to ensure it's the appropriate length.  I expect the puppet shows will be acting out the exciting vignette parts of the adventure rather than the part where everyone takes a ten minute break because the Doordash guy just arrived.
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My god are you still arguing about the boob puppet, the puppet with boobs?
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thetoughestbean posted:My god are you still arguing about the boob puppet, the puppet with boobs? I'm just waiting to find out that the boob puppet did a white power sign or something.
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admanb posted:I'm just waiting to find out that the boob puppet did a white power sign or something. I'm still looking for a source but the first thing I heard about this show before even the boob puppet was that a character in the game has a crossbow called Assfuck because it fucks monster asses. So if you're looking for the milkshake duck it's probably rape jokes and not just regular old tits.
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theironjef posted:I'm still looking for a source but the first thing I heard about this show before even the boob puppet was that a character in the game has a crossbow called Assfuck because it fucks monster asses. So if you're looking for the milkshake duck it's probably rape jokes and not just regular old tits.
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I heard they use critical failures.
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The Avenue Q D&D show is up on youtube, by the way, if anyone wants to check all this. Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8bdFwa4Kvs Here's the first episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crsI8gCkWTY First impression: haha the first thing the DM says is he "modified the rules" so it'd be easier for everyone to follow along with.
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Nuns with Guns posted:The Avenue Q D&D show is up on youtube, by the way, if anyone wants to check all this. Dungeons & Dragons*
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Nuns with Guns posted:
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Yeah... I only watched the trailer but that looks like absolute garbage. Not hemming and hawing about some moral arguments about tit-muppets*, but it just looks like an unwatchable trash fire. It could be the most body-positive feminist work in the world and it'd still just be a badly written show. *It's dumb.
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cptn_dr posted:Nothing makes me feel older than realising hundreds of thousands of people spend hours at a time watching other people play D&D. wait till I tell you about fantasy football! Gamification of watching a game played by others... and then we'll go one step further, because there's a tv show about a fantasy football league, that people watch watching people who act out the playing of a gamification of watching people who play a game now, to complete this: who is with me, we need to write a The League role-playing game, and then get someone to do an Actual Play of it
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Toshimo posted:This is actually a good move. It's smart given D&D's density of rules that'd get in the way of amusing improv, but I find it funny that these are shows to sell D&D to an audience where they pitch out part of the game itself to make it fun.
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theironjef posted:Tits are tits, who cares. I want further details on the thing I heard about one character's crossbow being named "Assfuck" because it gets shot up monster asses. That's the kind of humor we can all rally against and get mad at, come on. This is the correct take. People can make boob and dick jokes and it's fine. They might be funny or they might not be, just like any other joke. They might be sexist too, but they aren't necessarily. But a crossbow named assfuck is definitely bad.
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Lurks With Wolves posted:The short version is that a few years ago Magpie Games' CEO, Mark Diaz Truman, made a blog post talking about how we as a community need to welcome Zak S into our communities to heal the rift between indie games and the Old School Revolution. (Note: There is no actual rift between indie games and the OSR. Also, this forum is one of the main groups arguing for Zak S being an abusive piece of poo poo who constantly starts harassment campaigns, so you hopefully heard about him already.) Truman has made apologies for this post, but they've been very late and very middling apologies. So, Magpie Games makes good games but it always makes the SA tradgames community wince when they put something out because no one really wants to give Mark Diaz Truman money. Importantly that original post also announced they'd no longer be working with a writer who told Zak to gently caress off and also condemned several people who'd walked out of the Ennies when Zak had received awards and the "apology" in no way addressed any of the people he threw under the bus.
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I said it in the other thread, but will repeat here: I don't think there's anything morally objectionable about the D&D Muppet having huge knockers, though I do find the look of huge tits stapled onto an otherwise traditional Muppet design weirdly off-putting on a personal level. Given the design I'm assuming that was the reaction the creators were going for.
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Saguaro PI posted:Importantly that original post also announced they'd no longer be working with a writer who told Zak to gently caress off and also condemned several people who'd walked out of the Ennies when Zak had received awards and the "apology" in no way addressed any of the people he threw under the bus. The funniest thing about that was Mark talking about how he admired the writer for his game about standing up for your beliefs, and then he and Magpie repeatedly tried to pressure Rob into apologizing to Zak and being surprised by Rob refusing - even when Magpie Games said they would withdraw their support for his game.
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Nuns with Guns posted:It's smart given D&D's density of rules that'd get in the way of amusing improv, but I find it funny that these are shows to sell D&D to an audience where they pitch out part of the game itself to make it fun.
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dwarf74 posted:"make a good show" and "make it fun" aren't the same thing. In the most literal sense, no, those are not the same statements. I'm sorry but I'm not clear what your point is though. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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it seems fine, adequate even. who cares
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Leperflesh posted:wait till I tell you about fantasy football! Gamification of watching a game played by others...
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cptn_dr posted:Nothing makes me feel older than realising hundreds of thousands of people spend hours at a time watching other people play D&D. Allegedly gary gygax drew literal crowds of people to watch him run games at gen con back in the 80s. like 40 people huddled around a table to watch 6 people play.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Allegedly gary gygax drew literal crowds of people to watch him run games at gen con back in the 80s. like 40 people huddled around a table to watch 6 people play. The 'finals' of the various competitive play D&D games at gen con would sometimes draw (small) crowds as well. This was without mics or anything to make it easier to hear what was going on. Sometimes it was friends of the people playing, other times it was people who'd been 'knocked out' and wanted to find out what the whole adventure was about (as being terrible D&D competitive gaming (!) quite often the 'what's really going on' would be saved until the final round).
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