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One guy that I hope shows up in game 3 is Tamurkhan with his Toad Dragon he's certainly one of the more interesting champions of Nurgle and given that the person that eventually defeated him was Elspeth von Draken he seems like a natural fit for a lord pack with her
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I hope the first batch of Chaos Legendary Lords are all monster sized. There can never be enough giant lords.
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Feb 4, 2021 04:57
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Ethiser posted:I hope the first batch of Chaos Legendary Lords are all monster sized. There can never be enough giant lords. Yeah, right now we only really have a few. It's just Durthu, Kholek, Throg, and Sarthoriel who are actual big monsters.
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Feb 4, 2021 05:07
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Big Lords are great because it’s easier to gat the poo poo out of them. Little lords require a bit more finesse and positioning, and they are also way easier to miss. A bit hard to miss Sarthoriel or whatever the bird’s name is, but gunning down Grimgor reliably takes some doin’. When they get a dragon mount it’s good but ol’ Grimgor is a foot man. With any luck the Dragon Emperor is an actual dragon and Boris got turned into a big rear end bear.
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Feb 4, 2021 05:07
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NewMars posted:Ogres will have a food mechanic that means they have to constantly be expanding. It will be extremely finnicky and annoying. The halfling building will have one effect only: to completely remove this mechanic. realtalk, i could see ogres as being a hybrid horde/settlement race like VC, the option to have smaller non-horde armies, and the ability to lease said smaller armies out as mercenaries to get money; while food is important to them it seems like (from how they're described) it's less because they have a hyperactive metabolism like the skaven and more because the switch in their stomach that says "okay i'm full you can stop eating now" is broken, so if anything food to them might be more of a loyalty-type mechanic than how it works for skaven. if the bridge DLC from 2 to 3 (the norsca equivalent) is a full race and not just a two-lord pack then i'm willing to bet that it's an ogre lord or two e: it also does make sense ogres aren't one of their headliners for the game itself and are either the last DLC for 2 or a DLC for 3; it would be a bit weird to have them in at the start of a very heavily demon-focused game when their thing is being cannibals and you can't eat demons President Ark fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 05:11
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Their bellies are broke because of the Cathay emperor summoning a tyranid. I’d hope there’s ogres running around fighting Cathay.
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Feb 4, 2021 05:14
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Ethiser posted:I hope the first batch of Chaos Legendary Lords are all monster sized. There can never be enough giant lords. they havent added any monster sized lords since tww1 because they hate fun. they even scaled down throt, who should have been a monster sized lord.
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Feb 4, 2021 05:37
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Beefeater1980 posted:Cathay: 震旦天朝 Zhèn dàn Tiāncháo “Celestial Dynasty of Aurora” - I feel they pulled this by starting with the sound of 契丹 Qìdān (Khitan, an ethnicity that ruled the Liao dynasty just before the mongols wrecked poo poo up and from which we get Khitai, which is the basis of the English word “Cathay”), and then searched around until they had a couple of characters that sounded more traditionally Chinese. 震旦 Zhèn dàn is a Mandarin rendering of an archaic Indian word for China from the Middle Ages. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9C%87%E6%97%A6 Fun fact: when I looked up what people were saying on a Baidu forum about it, some of the users used the term 蒸蛋 Zhēng dàn, meaning "Steamed Egg" as a joke name for it.
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Zore posted:Yeah, right now we only really have a few. It's just Durthu, Kholek, Throg, and Sarthoriel who are actual big monsters. And everyone who gets a monstrous mount? Although technically Sarthoriel doesn't count, since he's custom/MP battles only.
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President Ark posted:e: it also does make sense ogres aren't one of their headliners for the game itself and are either the last DLC for 2 or a DLC for 3; it would be a bit weird to have them in at the start of a very heavily demon-focused game when their thing is being cannibals and you can't eat demons The Ogres were made by the Old Ones last, and are meant to be the ultimate anti-chaos super soldiers. They are largely immune to chaos corruption and can literally eat anything to survive including rocks. The giant gut they have is not fat, it’s largely hyper densely packed muscles and intestines and stomachs to facilitate their digestion. Up to the fact that yes, they likely can eat demons. Their monstrous hunger is from the giant meteor monster the Emperor of Cathay destroyed their original steppes homeland with. But they were still hungry before that, enough that they were eating Cathay peasants and farmers along the border. Officially the Maw ended up being part of either Gork or Mork in The End Times. In the past Tyranid was a suggestion, as was it being an embellishment of the crater as a living thing. In theory it’s burrowed through the planet because there’s a giant sucking whirlpool directly across from the Maw in the ocean. It might also just be a warp monstrosity. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 05:50
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Ogres rule. They’re also not supposed to be sloven idiots (not giants) but whoops lol
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Feb 4, 2021 05:51
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orangelex44 posted:And everyone who gets a monstrous mount? Although technically Sarthoriel doesn't count, since he's custom/MP battles only. Mounts don't count since you have to level up a ton to get them  And honestly there aren't that many that actually get 'Big Monster' level monstrous mounts. Like the only ones who get big mounts that are single unit entities are; Volkmar, Mannfred, Ghorst, Azhag, The sisters of Twilight, Wulfric, Alarielle, Teclis, Imrik, Maelkith, Lokhir, Mazdamundi, Kroq'gar, Ikit Klaw, Throt, Settra, Khatep, Luthor, Noctilus, Cylostra. I'm not counting Horses, Pegasi, Griffons, Chariots, Cold Ones etc which serve as mounts for multi-model units.
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jokes posted:Ogres rule. They’re also not supposed to be sloven idiots (not giants) but whoops lol The giants one is particularly sad because the Ogres are the reason for the degradation of the Giants. Originally they were even bigger and lived solitary lives in grand sky palaces at the top of mountains. But as the Ogres went West they ended up in a war with the Sky Giants, who they ultimately ate alive like ants eating a crab, the remaining giants were driven west, and as they left the mountains and the magic that sustained them they became smaller and stupider. The Ogres are just below average humans in terms of intelligence, Greasus has a magic crown that makes him smarter than average humans. Most importantly, they’re originally likely meant to have been partnered with Halflings. So Ogres would be the muscle and the Halflings the brain, both can eat just about anything but have an appreciation for delicious food, and Ogres have an inbuilt reaction to hobbit sized races of slight affection and interest, although with the Gnoblars and the Ogres being unfinished by the Old Ones they’re still happy to eat their little chefs and helpers.
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Mantis42 posted:震旦 Zhèn dàn is a Mandarin rendering of an archaic Indian word for China from the Middle Ages. That’s awesome, so cool (also am hungry for Steamed Egg now). E: lol that chinese reddit is calling it Frozen 3. Beefeater1980 fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:That’s awesome, so cool (also am hungry for Steamed Egg now). 
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Tyrion question. Blood of Aenarion or Defender of Ulthuan?
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Arcsquad12 posted:Tyrion question. Blood of Aenarion or Defender of Ulthuan? Defender line gets you upkeep reduction. Getting more armies out is annoying as HE even with all the money you get, so just more armies = better. Tyrion doesn't need the bonuses to become a melee blender, he's that naturally.
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Lord_Magmar posted:and as they left the mountains and the magic that sustained them they became smaller and stupider. This is also because as there were so few of them left, they started inbreeding and also heavily drinking to drown their sorrows. Which is why the average giant is such a drunk now.
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People have mused that the Total War saga games are test beds for new mechanics (see some of the recruitment system of Thrones making their way into Three Kingdoms). Up until now horde factions in TW:WH have been woeful. I heard the Amazon faction in Troy had a good horde system, but haven't had a chance to try it. Would it work well to improve horde factions in Warhammer?
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Feb 4, 2021 06:52
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Troy had some good stuff. Diplomacy was solid. The siege approach was interesting - most sieges can be autoresolve won in 3-4 turns or less with bonuses, but Troy itself cannot be autoresolved and has an endless siege timer and a super high refill rate, so you have to time it for when the garrison is low and hasn’t refilled yet and then storm the city with a huge number of siege engines. It’s the most I’ve been involved in. TW siege in ages.
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Grumio posted:People have mused that the Total War saga games are test beds for new mechanics (see some of the recruitment system of Thrones making their way into Three Kingdoms). I haven't played it since it released but from memory the Amazons had incentives to more or less Always Be Attacking. Different settlements would give different rewards, including units. It also didn't really matter if ruins were resettled because the incentives would return after a while (iirc)
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Can't believe they're finally adding it to Warhammer... https://i.imgur.com/Ekrytmt.mp4
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There are a hundred different ways to portray Slaanesh without sexual obsession
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punishedkissinger posted:for the record i would be overjoyed if halflings got a whole army. the moot has great lore. We could see them fleshed out a bit in a Dogs of War roster or as a playable sub faction within the Empire as part of a bigger Elector Counts pack.
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I would love the halflings in the game because they are goofy as gently caress, but they'd fit best as an eccentric Dogs of War unit Let me kill people with soup
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H2Eau posted:I haven't played it since it released but from memory the Amazons had incentives to more or less Always Be Attacking. Different settlements would give different rewards, including units. It also didn't really matter if ruins were resettled because the incentives would return after a while (iirc) Their best feature is that their units can upgrade to higher tiers once they get enough xp chevrons similar to how soldiers in Mount and Blade work.
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This bit of the pcgamer article was interesting.quote:"In campaign map terms, it's big… roughly twice the size of Warhammer 2's Eye of the Vortex map," says game director Ian Roxburgh. "And it needs to be, as this is the part of the Warhammer world that gives way to the Realms of Chaos, which take up a significant area in their own right. I don't really know all of the lore but I thought the main ways to get to Chaos Realm was through the gates at north and south poles, the vortex and lizardmen have their own portals. I assume this just means chaos wastes in the north and possibly going through the portal for the setpiece final battle.
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The Chad Jihad posted:So the dude in the trailer has no reflection. Could just be an artistic oversight though This is for sure on purpose, the shot is repeated, and the first time you can see the tsarina clearly reflected. I really don't think this is the advisor from the first two games, he really doesn't look that much like him. The advisor has a big scar on his face, this guy doesn't. Beard is also pretty different.
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So I'm getting slammed by the Skaven as Empire. Any tips for dealing with them? The ability to do an ambush and attack every attack is pretty nuts. I just had clan moulder take on 5 of my full banner armies and because he could attack every one individually, with an ambush, he killed them all. Ridiculous. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 11:03
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Ambushes don't work as well against cavalry. Break out the trap, smash the ranged, then deal with the infantry.
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So I guess Ogre Kingdoms and Chaos Dwarfs will be added as big race packs like the Vampire Coast and Tomb Kings. After that though i hope they just keep releasing lord packs of various match-ups between games 1, 2 and 3 factions because I'll probably buy 90% of them and play this game for the rest of my life.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Slaanesh is not really that much about sex, it's for sure more Hellraiser. Using people as instruments and stuff. It used to be pretty explicitly about sex and drugs and rock and roll (specifically 80s hair metal) and then GW went all PG-13 on us
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It's not really much about sex, you guys. Here is the specific picture that I choose as proof: *picture contains assless chaps, gimp masks, bdsm slaves, nosferatu titties, and a some kind of flying dick monster licking a topless woman*
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Does this mean we have the chance of Chaos with Samuari aesthetics in the future now? Nippon is certainly in the cards now, right?
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Zephro posted:Well, not anymore it's not. 24/7 orgies being the only sort of excess GW could think of for anyone but noise marines was actually lame as gently caress and AoS slaanesh is better. Lust is only one of seven.
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Slaanesh was always the most lame chaos god. Crab claws and PG13 "sex"  The only cool thing about it was noise marines in 40K. It's good that they're developing the God a bit more in AoS. I'd love some Noise Marine equivalent in Fantasy, though I dunno if a chaos noise bard would make sense lol
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I'd have pegged amazons as more likely than a lot of stuff, but maybe not. I think they could be cool as hell though Light infantry and ranged with some laser Dino backup and making the game less of a sausage fest
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thread title and some basic info will be changed tomorrow, hold on
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:24/7 orgies being the only sort of excess GW could think of for anyone but noise marines was actually lame as gently caress and AoS slaanesh is better. Lust is only one of seven. The Chapter fortress-monastery is the Hammersmith Apollo circa 1985
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The defining traits of Slaanesh as I understand them are excellence (as in excelling in a field), improvement and drive as well sensation/pleasure. Those can mean a lot of things and can even be positive, and I feel like that is how you should generally do the Chaos gods, but in standard Chaos fashion you twist those to their extreme and you get basically get to single-minded out-of-control obsession and narcissism (and probably sex perversion if you want, but it doesn't have to be limited to that).Communist Thoughts posted:I'd have pegged amazons as more likely than a lot of stuff, but maybe not. I think they could be cool as hell though I'd say Amazon units are somewhat likely if we get Tilea/Dogs of War and mercenary mechancis. An Amazon faction, no, I don't think that's going to happen. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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