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The_Doctor posted:SWORD should reveal they have a knockoff Vision called Aaron Stack. If they make Machine Man I want Matt Smith to play him.
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I keep hearing people say they now want a Jimmy Woo/Darcy Lewis show where they just team up to solve weird things in the MCU and it's like y'all really don't remember AoS season 1, do ya
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Feb 5, 2021 06:41
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BrianWilly posted:y'all really don't remember AoS season 1, do ya I try not to outside of Bill Paxton’s role.
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Feb 5, 2021 06:55
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Okay the pictures of Baby Vision are god drat hilarious.
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Feb 5, 2021 09:34
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Well that was certainly unsettling.
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Feb 5, 2021 09:39
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Whooo boy, that was quite the episode.
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Feb 5, 2021 09:42
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So mentioning Captain Marvel to Monica struck a nerve.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Whooo boy, that was quite the episode. Reverse-House of M 
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Infinitum posted:Reverse-House of M No, more mutants!
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Feb 5, 2021 09:47
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I like Visions floppy 80s hair. It's very Julian Glover in Scrooged. Also, the house is Growning Pains right? I remember the Family Ties one looking different, though I think that was mostly in the Kitchen? I haven't seen any of these shows in 30 years.
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That episode might be the best yet. Great balance of sitcom, outside the bubble, and sitcom gone wrong/creepy.
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Feb 5, 2021 09:50
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jivjov posted:No, more mutants! I think it's going to end up being Multiverse shattering more so than "No, more mutants"/House of M, but regardless of what happens people are going to be in for a baaaaaadddd loving time once we get to the "Your kids aren't real" portion of the festivities.
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the scene with Wanda coming out to return the drone really showed how loving scary she can be when she wants, and yeah, if we do the "Wanda, the kids aren't real" thing it's gonna be bad for the MCU in the best possible way. Also I like that even with her show of force to the agents of SWORD, the show still went out of the way to say she doesn't know how it started, so I sense foul play from someone else even with Wanda being quite villainous herself
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Feb 5, 2021 09:56
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I have to imagine the scene of Wanda confronting SWORD was directly inspired by Magneto vs. the police from the first X-Men movie just to setup the Pietro reveal later.
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Feb 5, 2021 10:02
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It's looking to me like some outside force started all this but Wanda overpowered it and took control. Maybe Agnus?
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:the scene with Wanda coming out to return the drone really showed how loving scary she can be when she wants, and yeah, if we do the "Wanda, the kids aren't real" thing it's gonna be bad for the MCU in the best possible way. Also I like that even with her show of force to the agents of SWORD, the show still went out of the way to say she doesn't know how it started, so I sense foul play from someone else even with Wanda being quite villainous herself Yea I think that when she came out of the Hex, this was some kind of defensive part of herself, the same one that threw Monica out of it. That when the 'reality' of the show is challenged, this part of her asserts herself. It's sorta like Jane in Doom Patrol, but rather than it being a consensual decision to go into a new personality, it comes out when needed. Probably her angry, vindictive side, the one that offed Ultron in a cruel manner is seperate from the caring, heroic one that Cap sees in her.
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twistedmentat posted:I like Visions floppy 80s hair. It's very Julian Glover in Scrooged. I think more Family Ties, for some reason I think of that as a house with a more wood panelled/brownish interior and Growing Pains as more white paint. Though the theme song for this week somehow got way more than just one vibe to it. It's really good.
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My theory right now is that the Wanda who ransacked SWORD to get Vision's body, aka the Wanda who threatened everyone at the border, is an imposter disguised as her.
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Feb 5, 2021 10:27
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seaborgium posted:I think more Family Ties, for some reason I think of that as a house with a more wood panelled/brownish interior and Growing Pains as more white paint. I think what's throwing me off is I remember most of Family Ties happening in the back of the house, the kitchen/dining area and Growing Pains with the front of the house. Though having a staircase right there was common because it created an easy place for characters too appear from. But holy poo poo god drat what the gently caress Quicksilver, and its X-men Quicksilver! Now seriously, everything is off the table. Elliot Page showing up as Kitty? Sophie Turner as Jean? That would be hilarious "I know what its like to go crazy and destroy everything, like seriously, i know exactly what you're going through. Or even real long shots like Jackman, Stewart or McKellan? Seriously, Evan Peter's showing up opens a huge door. And I'm perdicting that this is legit, Peter Maximoff from Fox X-men universe, that Wanda plucked out of time and space, and not just a construct that is based on him. God drat next friday can't come fast enough.
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Feb 5, 2021 10:31
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All the SWORD agents were so busy freaking out about Wanda coming out of the dome that they missed her speech about how she doesn't know how it started and she doesn't have control of the majority of the people but she has decided to keep with it. It allows her to have grief as a reason while still being actively malicious. I really enjoyed the bit with Woo/Monica/Darcy discovering Wanda's realitybending. Seems like they are going with her rearranging existing materials with the Kevlar clothing. Woo is definitely a moviegoer insert, his lines about Wanda and Carol vs Thanos were straight off a message board post endgame. Vision revealing he didn't have any pre-hex memories was scary and a little rapey (ww84), he doesn't have the 3 years of relationship building and is basically a child. I think it means after the series ends we will get a grey vision analogue. Lets us get a cool character back but with a serious impact from his death it's funny that they'll probably get to "hex magic" from it being a literal hexagon, and they had the discussion about whether she had a "superhero name". The head of SWORD managed to frame Wanda's life as purely antagonistic. Going straight to doming her with a drone was pretty mental too. this episode was genuinely anxiety inducing, and I was genuinely shocked when she walked out of the dome Great episode. Shame the actor twist at the end was so heavily leaked.
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Feb 5, 2021 10:32
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And so the great X-Men merging begins.
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BrianWilly posted:My theory right now is that the Wanda who ransacked SWORD to get Vision's body, aka the Wanda who threatened everyone at the border, is an imposter disguised as her. Why? I can't see any arguments in favor of that theory. This seems unsubstantiated at best. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Feb 5, 2021 10:38
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The shots of Vision in SWORD custody suggested they were taking him apart, as he looked like he was in pieces in a lab. Probably going to found out they were loving around with him seeing how he worked and trying to rebuild him under their control. Also an early theory I had was that AIM was inside of SWORD like Hydra was inside SHIELD. That's why the guy became a beekeeper, because Wanda knew that he was in AIM from taking control of him. But you don't need to be AIM to do sneaky evil science. Gonz posted:I’m mildly bummed that we haven’t had this guy as a guest star yet. When Wanda starts the credits while Vision is yelling at her that its not over reminds me so much of Too Many Cooks
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twistedmentat posted:The shots of Vision in SWORD custody suggested they were taking him apart, as he looked like he was in pieces in a lab. That was pretty hosed up; it probably didn't do good things to her mental wellbeing, or her image of SWORD as friendly people who just want to help.
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Sammus posted:That was pretty hosed up; it probably didn't do good things to her mental wellbeing, or her image of SWORD as friendly people who just want to help. Which would explain why Monica was accepted because Wanda could tell that she was not part of that SWORD. If Wanda invaded the minds of Darcy and Woo she'd probably get a similar result.
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Feb 5, 2021 10:46
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jivjov posted:No, more mutants! 
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twistedmentat posted:Which would explain why Monica was accepted because Wanda could tell that she was not part of that SWORD. If Wanda invaded the minds of Darcy and Woo she'd probably get a similar result. You're right! Another thing that might be used to tie them together is that they got snapped and both came back to a lost loved one. Monica's mother died while she was snapped. That fresh grief would be an excellent motivation to bond them.
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Lol, you are gonna use a drone to take out the one person who drat near soloed Thanos. No more mutants? No,... More Mutants!
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So in-universe did they livestream the endgame battle?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Why? I can't see any arguments in favor of that theory. This seems unsubstantiated at best.  ) for Wanda to be with her boys in one moment, outside of Westfiew in the next moment, and then back looking for the dog as if she hadn't actually gone anywhere. Which would make sense if she hadn't gone anywhere and the Wanda we saw outside the Hex ( ) was in fact just a different person.The speech she gave to the twins, about how you can't reverse death, also doesn't really square with her mindset of just using her powers to do whatever she wants. Also, Wanda seemed to acknowledge that was in fact controlling everything when speaking to SWORD, but later seemed to suggest to Vision that she's not truly the one in control here. (This point relies on trusting that she's being truthful to Vision, though, which is dubious) (All the same though, I think we can believe she's genuinely surprised to see "Pietro" and that his return was outside of her control) It would also explain why Wanda even knew Vision was being kept with SWORD in the first place.
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Wanda's speech about the dog was just because she can raise the dead or age the kids, she won't always because she wants to keep with the rules of her new reality. If you rewatch it's pretty clear she can definitely do it if she wants to.
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twistedmentat posted:When Wanda starts the credits while Vision is yelling at her that its not over reminds me so much of Too Many Cooks I loved that Wanda's line to Vision, which was pretty sinister/creepy, got a big audience applause/cheer to mark the start of the credits, since she was trying desperately to wrap up the argument and maintain the illusion of a happy life where everything is just fine. Having the credits rolling over that while Vision just keeps going after her trying to get her to actually talk to him honestly till he bursts through door out of "make-up" and the credits just snap off was fantastic. Also, of all the unsettling ways things have been "reset" in prior episodes, I was most creeped out by how this one went with Agnes literally turning awkwardly to Wanda and openly asking her if she wanted to do another take. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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BurritoJustice posted:Wanda's speech about the dog was just because she can raise the dead or age the kids, she won't always because she wants to keep with the rules of her new reality. If you rewatch it's pretty clear she can definitely do it if she wants to. And yeah, like, there are just moments here and there, like the one with Agnes in this episode, that seem to portray Wanda as being just as genuinely confused about what just happened as everyone else. It's just a theory, mind.
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So the kids are they made out of all the other children of Westview?
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Feb 5, 2021 11:17
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I'm a simple man, after they gave the name of Wanda and Pietro's parents this episode, I want next episode to have Pietro get confused and say their dad's name is Eric. Yes, all I ask for is a simple line and for Michael Fassbender to show up, that's not too much to ask!
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Feb 5, 2021 11:19
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So this episode makes me feel more confidant in my Legion theory.
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Feb 5, 2021 11:33
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BrianWilly posted:It's just kind of a weird blip ( The Twins don't exist if she's not thinking about them, if we're going by the original 'rules' about how this plays out 
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