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Platystemon posted:Jesus Christ it’s the “Mana” universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcnNeGQHwDc
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Feb 5, 2021 19:55
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Facebook Aunt posted:Never happen. They won't need anyone to evict you. If your rent is unpaid your Amazon Ring Smart Door just locks you out. The door refused to open. It said, "Five cents, please." He searched his pockets. No more coins; nothing. "I'll pay you tomorrow," he told the door. Again it remained locked tight. "What I pay you," he informed it, "is in the nature of a gratuity; I don't have to pay you." "I think otherwise," the door said. "Look in the purchase contract you signed when you bought this conapt." ...he found the contract. Sure enough; payment to his door for opening and shutting constituted a mandatory fee. Not a tip. "You discover I'm right," the door said. It sounded smug.
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Feb 5, 2021 20:09
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Mr Zuckerberg's Greater Hong Kong
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Feb 5, 2021 20:46
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If you make less than 100 grand a year you're going to end up in the pornhub or wish.com burbclave
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Feb 5, 2021 20:51
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Thanatosian posted:Democrats unironically supporting bringing back company towns. loving amazing. No these are more like corporate fiefdoms and they'd be way worse than company towns
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Feb 5, 2021 20:57
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Sisolak named Blockchains, LLC as a company that had committed to developing a “smart city” in an area east of Reno after the legislation has passed. The draft proposal said the traditional local government model is “inadequate alone" to provide the resources to make Nevada a leader in attracting and retaining businesses and fostering economic development in emerging technologies and industries. The Governor’s Office of Economic Development would oversee applications for the zones, which would be limited to companies working in specific business areas including blockchain, autonomous technology, the Internet of Things, robotics, artificial intelligence, wireless, biometrics and renewable resource technology.
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Feb 5, 2021 20:58
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The idiots in charge are just buzzword parrots!!!
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Feb 5, 2021 20:59
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If there's one thing i really need where i live it's an omnipresent local government touching everything
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Feb 5, 2021 21:00
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Can't wait until every hour of my life including my downtime at home feels like being on the clock in an office building
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Feb 5, 2021 21:01
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Your home wifi turns off at 11pm to ensure you get to sleep for work tomorrow! Just a little quality of life upgrade in Corpville!
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Feb 5, 2021 21:02
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smarxist posted:Your home wifi turns off at 11pm to ensure you get to sleep for work tomorrow! Just a little quality of life upgrade in Corpville! Praise based Muskmelon and his blessings from the heavens.
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Feb 5, 2021 21:51
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Tempora Mutantur posted:I think this is beyond company towns and we're approaching Real Shadowrun Corporate Extraterritoriality Under this structure they could create a bunch of crimes in the zone like jaywalking, unpaid parking tickets, etc. and then arrest you with corporate cops, hold you in corporate jail, find you guilty in corporate court, and then make you a prison slave who accrues a running bill for the cost of all of this and can never get out until you pay it off on your penny a day wage. Like this arrangement legalizes corporate slavery if they want. E: reading this in more detail this is literally a bill to legalize extraterritorial plantations. That's not an exaggeration in any way. I wouldn't be caught dead driving through one of these things. The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 21:55 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Feb 5, 2021 21:52
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Turns out Robocop's Delta City wasn't satire, just ahead of its time.
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Feb 5, 2021 21:55
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smarxist posted:Can't wait until every hour of my life including my downtime at home feels like being on the clock in an office building I'm there right now
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Feb 5, 2021 21:56
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SchnorkIes posted:Mid to noon is a great shift on a fuckin oil rig where the entire place caters to that schedule Is it 2 shifts like this back to back or why would it be set up to start dead of night?
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Feb 5, 2021 22:07
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*as the National Guard establishes a siege at Walmart's Eugenica compound in Nevada* who could have seen this coming
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Feb 5, 2021 22:39
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The Oldest Man posted:Under this structure they could create a bunch of crimes in the zone like jaywalking, unpaid parking tickets, etc. and then arrest you with corporate cops, hold you in corporate jail, find you guilty in corporate court, and then make you a prison slave who accrues a running bill for the cost of all of this and can never get out until you pay it off on your penny a day wage. They can't override federal law or the federal Constitution. They also can't override the state constitution, but god knows what Nevada actually put in theirs.
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Feb 5, 2021 22:43
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Vox Nihili posted:They can't override federal law or the federal Constitution. OK but many states already use defacto slave labor and it's both legal and constitutional; this just puts that power in the hands of a corporate entity directly rather than requiring them to use a government program as a pass through
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Feb 5, 2021 22:54
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Realistically none of this is even going to happen though because corporations offload costs onto local government and have no interest in stepping into their shoes. Policing is expensive and the government is already paid not to enforce regulations. You don't need to set up a special new type of government in remote Nevada to get away with stuff, you can already just buy the land, build a security post between that land and the freeway, and do whatever.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:04
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skewetoo posted:I'm there right now im just finishing up working and its after 5:00. I'll probably get another 3 or 4 work emails between now and when i go to bed. my home is just an extension of my office now
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Feb 5, 2021 23:10
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smarxist posted:If there's one thing i really need where i live it's an omnipresent local government touching everything its not totalitarianism because its a private company and private companies are allowed to do whatever they want on their rightful land. like a king
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Feb 5, 2021 23:21
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Geshtal posted:Turns out Robocop wasn't satire, just ahead of its time.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:25
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Vox Nihili posted:Realistically none of this is even going to happen though because corporations offload costs onto local government and have no interest in stepping into their shoes. Policing is expensive and the government is already paid not to enforce regulations. You don't need to set up a special new type of government in remote Nevada to get away with stuff, you can already just buy the land, build a security post between that land and the freeway, and do whatever. the main factors stopping cyberpunk corpro states from being real is that it's not really in the interest of any public sector agents and it's REALLY not in the interest of any private sector agents, so it only really stands to happen if either the circumstances or the people are extremely dumb which makes it all but inevitable in america
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Feb 5, 2021 23:54
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DarkDobe posted:Is it 2 shifts like this back to back or why would it be set up to start dead of night? Yeah there's an opposite shift.
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Feb 6, 2021 00:05
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Tulip posted:the main factors stopping cyberpunk corpro states from being real is that it's not really in the interest of any public sector agents and it's REALLY not in the interest of any private sector agents, so it only really stands to happen if either the circumstances or the people are extremely dumb I think there's a certain path that some (mega)corps are looking at/considering where they realize that if they can actually offer things outside of their core business model, tehy can not only defray some of their labor costs by recouping back money from the employees, but also end up with people who are more or less more 'loyal' to the company (i.e. bound, whether or not they view it for what it is or have their own personal delusion of the company caring for them) Like the pilot for amazon health care (yeah you fuckin read that right): https://www.amazon.care/ which afaik started as a pilot for "what if we just made our own healthcare for employees to save costs/have even more control over 'nah you aren't too sick to work'" which is still just regurgitating company towns, but like, because it has an actual (perceived as possible) benefit (which they're at least willing to pilot) so I think this is a *lot* more possible in the near future than it seems
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Feb 6, 2021 00:17
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also I think you're underestimating sheer fuckin ego driving poo poo like this bezos, musk, hsieh, they're not looking out for *interests* they're trying to be drivers of the reality they wanna see, and they have the money and sycophants to at least make serious attempts if you were already at that point why wouldn't you justify to yourself, however you view it, that you could run a town? that you could have a small fiefdom where you have total control? poo poo, musk wants to go to mars to have his own laws, this is just a less insane stab at it
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Feb 6, 2021 00:22
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Tempora Mutantur posted:I think there's a certain path that some (mega)corps are looking at/considering where they realize that if they can actually offer things outside of their core business model, tehy can not only defray some of their labor costs by recouping back money from the employees, but also end up with people who are more or less more 'loyal' to the company (i.e. bound, whether or not they view it for what it is or have their own personal delusion of the company caring for them) when i worked in the apple call mines, my contractor co-workers were most spurred to do good enough to get hired as a real apple employee so they could go to the on-site dentist for free
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Feb 6, 2021 00:23
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well im sure the sex trafficking businesses who already trap workers on the property in Nevada will be excited about the chance to also be able to extradite the slaves if they escape for theft of services
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Feb 6, 2021 00:28
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The Nastier Nate posted:im just finishing up working and its after 5:00. I'll probably get another 3 or 4 work emails between now and when i go to bed. Can't you just not check your email?
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Feb 6, 2021 00:35
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Now imagining the various HyperMegaCorp security drones and Warthog convoys hitting the road for resources once Hoover Dam silts up and collapses, and residual soil moisture hits <20% due to ongoing drought conditions.
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Feb 6, 2021 00:38
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So for the normies who are not huge local government debate-havers and unfamiliar with Dillon's Rule and the Cooley Doctrine, there are actually two different and diametrically opposed basic legal philosophies regarding the relationship between state government and local government in the US. The short version is that Cooley Doctrine states have either constitutional provisions or jurisprudence that local government is a freestanding authority and the state is limited in what it can tell them to do (including rulemaking processes and structure of local governments) whereas Dillon's Rule states (inc. Nevada) have the opposite approach that local governments are arms of the state gov and the state is only as constrained when telling them how to work as they make themselves. Allowing a corporate-appointed version of a county government in a Dillon's Rule state is super problematic because it gives corporations a way to bypass the usual prescriptive "state says counties do x" structuring of the local government's form and rules of procedure where it's inconvenient and get a more favorable governance structure. It's not just putting a company in control of the local government, it's allowing them to dictate the form and procedure of the local government in a way that a "regular" local government would be legally prohibited from doing.
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Feb 6, 2021 00:52
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Vox Nihili posted:They can't override federal law or the federal Constitution. Oh, yeah, the Constitution will protect us. What does the Constitution say about slavery again? The 13th Amendment posted:Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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Feb 6, 2021 00:53
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Guilty of not displaying five pieces of flair, one year hard labor
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Feb 6, 2021 00:55
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Tempora Mutantur posted:also I think you're underestimating sheer fuckin ego driving poo poo like this yeah some of these guys think of themselves as Gods basically and what God doesn't want people to lord over.
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Feb 6, 2021 01:01
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ty for the idea of tony hsieh running a local government jesus christ that is a loving nightmare i cannot unsee
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Feb 6, 2021 01:09
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lol hsieh has been dead for four months unless his brain is in cryo freeze somewhere which wouldn't be entirely out of the question
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Feb 6, 2021 01:35
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Thanatosian posted:Oh, yeah, the Constitution will protect us. What does the Constitution say about slavery again? Well they don't need to make their own cities to take advantage of prisoner slave labor, we openly allow them to do that already.
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Feb 6, 2021 01:41
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Vox Nihili posted:Well they don't need to make their own cities to take advantage of prisoner slave labor, we openly allow them to do that already. We don't currently allow them to charge and imprison people though lol
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Feb 6, 2021 01:42
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Inceltown posted:Can't you just not check your email? You mean I should just wait till Monday to explain to someone how To use Microsoft teams almost a year into the pandemic? Yea ok buddy
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Feb 6, 2021 01:56
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I like didn't think I'd need to argue that giving corporations a vehicle to pressgang people they don't want to pay a real wage might be a bad thing in CSPAM in TYOOL 2021 but here we are Hope you like getting a comped ticket to an AWS computertoucher conference in vegas, passing out at the after party, and waking up chained to a workstation in the middle of the desert
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Feb 6, 2021 01:57
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