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here's a scintillating JJ face promo for those curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSMxAhtMeho&t=302s
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Tato posted:here's a scintillating JJ face promo for those curious Wow, star wipes
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Tato posted:here's a scintillating JJ face promo for those curious
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Yeah, Brian Christopher isn't a hall of famer
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Feb 5, 2021 22:09
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he probably is in a couple years
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Red posted:Once he ditched trying to sing, the guitar didn't make sense to carry. The hunting glasses or whatever never made sense, either. Jeff Jarrett is like the Cobra of wrestling gimmicks - they just kept giving him more and different poo poo to set him apart, except no one really cared, and it didn't work. (Cobra's Stallone had an old timey car, chewed a matchstick, a super gun, reflective sunglasses, and on and on). Did Jim Cornette ever really have a reason to carry around a tennis racket?
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Feb 5, 2021 22:46
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Super Dan posted:Did Jim Cornette ever really have a reason to carry around a tennis racket? He was supposed to be a preppy mama's boy. And tennis was seen as a "upper class" sport.
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Feb 5, 2021 22:52
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Super Dan posted:Did Jim Cornette ever really have a reason to carry around a tennis racket? Jimmy Hart already had a megaphone. Who had the fake branding iron? That was hilarious. Edit: Terry Funk and then later, I think Bradshaw, but I can't remember if it was when he was "Hawk" or the new Blackjack.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:03
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Davros1 posted:He was supposed to be a preppy mama's boy. And tennis was seen as a "upper class" sport. I would think that would be golf but I guess a tennis racket is easier to carry than golf clubs. Now that I think about it, a 80s brick cellphone would also have worked.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:06
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Stone Pitbull 141 posted:
That was Paul E Dangerously's gimmick
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Feb 5, 2021 23:19
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Oh yeah. Wonder who he was supposed to be calling with that thing.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:24
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Stone Pitbull 141 posted:Oh yeah. He was yuppie; he was calling his Wall Street buddies, and making all the money.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:29
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I realize that I know poo poo about Paul's pre-ECW days.
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Feb 5, 2021 23:32
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Davros1 posted:He was yuppie; he was calling his Wall Street buddies, and making all the money. I'm pretty sure the gimmick was less him being a yuppie, and more him being a New York Jew w/ money in southern territories as a manager
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Stone Pitbull 141 posted:I realize that I know poo poo about Paul's pre-ECW days. Huh. I didn't watch a ton of WCW during Heyman's tenure there, but I always saw him as having a prominent role. It took me a long time to remember his name as Heyman, and not Dangerously. (Holy cow, he was only 23 when he joined WCW)
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Given's Paul history and future with ECW I assume that Paul was always calling people he owed money too
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Stone Pitbull 141 posted:I realize that I know poo poo about Paul's pre-ECW days. Red posted:Huh. I didn't watch a ton of WCW during Heyman's tenure there, but I always saw him as having a prominent role. It took me a long time to remember his name as Heyman, and not Dangerously. He was such a hustler as a teen, he even managed to get licensed as a press photographer so he could get into wrestling events; which led to this famous photo (And the story that it was either Capt Lou or the Grand Wizard who said "This kid should call himself Pauly Dangerously!"
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Feb 5, 2021 23:56
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Davros1 posted:He was such a hustler as a teen, he even managed to get licensed as a press photographer so he could get into wrestling events; which led to this famous photo (And the story that it was either Capt Lou or the Grand Wizard who said "This kid should call himself Pauly Dangerously!"
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Reading the replies about No Limit Soldiers and I have to agree that these guys hustled the poo poo out of WCW and it owns. So in sort of mid-99 who gets the book after Nash? I had stopped watching WCW at this point during the Monday Night Wars and it's kind of crazy to see WCW trying to do their own version of McMahon and Austin fighting for control of the company.
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Russo jumped poo poo around, I wanna say, September or thereabouts in 1999, and IIRC, took Ed "Oklahoma" Ferrara with him. I think it might have been around one of those UK-only PPV events.
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The story, as I believe it has been uncovered, is that Russo was pissed that he got no pay bump when the WWF added Smackdown to the lineup and expected him to be head writer for both shows. When he expressed that he couldn’t see his family, Vince simply told him that he was paying him more than enough to hire a nanny to take care of his kids. And Russo, as well as Ferrara, weren’t on any sort of exclusive contract or anything with the company; just standard employees. So he reached out to WCW and Bill Busch, being sold a line from Russo and Ferrara that they were the secret ingredient to the WWF’s success, offered them a huge deal to jump and be WCW’s head writers, as Harvey Schiller had recently dumped Bischoff completely from operations on September 10th and placed Busch in charge of the business end, while on creative a committee of guys like Kevin Sullivan and Nash were booking shows for those weeks in between Bischoff being booted and Russo/Ferrara being hired. So the first weekend in October, while Vince and most of the company was in the UK for the No Mercy PPV on the 2nd, Russo and Ferrara e-mailed Vince, tendering their resignations and flying to Atlanta to sign actual contracts with WCW. In the wake of this, Vince promoted Chris Kreski to head writer and WWF headed into an even bigger year in 2000.
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TheKingslayer posted:Reading the replies about No Limit Soldiers and I have to agree that these guys hustled the poo poo out of WCW and it owns. after Nash whenever WCW would be in between executive producers because they canned Bischoff or Russo it tended to be a committee with Sullivan & Taylor until mid-2000 when Johnny Ace ended up running the booking committee (and is arguably why the last few months of WCW are so well regarded and how he got his WWF gig) Ace took the job because Giant Baba died and when NOAH split off from All Japan he didnt want to get caught in the political crossfire and retired.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I'm sure WCW would have died anyway, but I wonder how differently things would have gone if they never brought Russo in. This gimmick was known as exhibit A a couple years later.
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Feb 6, 2021 03:18
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Ok so this Spring\Summer run of WCW must be the whole booking committee thing. It's all so boring with a few guys in the undercard really trying to do what they can.
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We never got a nWo Hollywood Hogan vs nWo Wolfpac Nash match when anyone gave a poo poo. Built feuds over a year for that stuff and never paid off. Nash was a genius to not go over Hogan I guess. Know where the bread is buttered.
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Davros1 posted:He was such a hustler as a teen, he even managed to get licensed as a press photographer so he could get into wrestling events; which led to this famous photo (And the story that it was either Capt Lou or the Grand Wizard who said "This kid should call himself Pauly Dangerously!" He used his bar mitzvah money to buy a camera and build a dark room and bullshit his way into the wrestling business in the most Heyman way possible.
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Tato posted:We never got a nWo Hollywood Hogan vs nWo Wolfpac Nash match when anyone gave a poo poo. Built feuds over a year for that stuff and never paid off. Uh we got the match in front of 35,000 people on a show with 4 times as many viewers as your precious AEW Dynamite! I'd say "that's a lot of butts in seats" but those 35,000 were all on their feet.
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I think it was on one of Jericho's podcasts where Heyman claimed that he also used the photographer "gig" to blag his way into Studio 54 in the 80s. Even if it's total bollocks, the image is pretty amusing. I think MRT in particular has been on record as to saying that 1999 WCW is worse than 2000 WCW. I'm not entirely sure if I buy it, but 1999 was real bad whoever was booking.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I think it was on one of Jericho's podcasts where Heyman claimed that he also used the photographer "gig" to blag his way into Studio 54 in the 80s. Even if it's total bollocks, the image is pretty amusing. I think my stance is Summer of 99 is the worst period but if I said all of 99 I will stand by it even though there are two good 99 PPVs. With Russo things are rarely mind numbingly boring. They are stupid, they are offensive, they are lovely in many ways, but when you get Van Hammer vs Rick Steiner on PPV in 1999 you as a fan are getting an extra special gently caress you.
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Rick Steiner coming out every night to cut the same dog oriented promo has been just terrible.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I think it was on one of Jericho's podcasts where Heyman claimed that he also used the photographer "gig" to blag his way into Studio 54 in the 80s. Even if it's total bollocks, the image is pretty amusing. The Studio 54 stuff is real, he was a regular photographer for the club from like 1985 to 1987 (after the high point was well in the rear view). He even convinced Mark Fleischman to run a wrestling card there in ‘85, which is how Paul managed to slide into the wrestling business proper beyond being a photographer. Bam Bam Bigelow premiered at that very card, and a couple years later convinced Paul to become a manager. Paul worked some Northeastern indies, and then thanks to meeting Dusty at that Studio 54 show (Wrestle Party 85, it was called), he got an in with Championship Wrestling from Florida and started managing Kevin Sullivan and Oliver Humperdink. Bigelow brought him around to Memphis and the AWA. Eventually he ended up in Alabama for the CWF, met Eddie Gilbert and became his assistant while Gilbert booked the territory, and that’s pretty much the beginning of the Paul Heyman we know today. A few months later, in ‘88, he goes to JCP and does the Midnights vs Midnights feud and he becomes a star managing and calling matches with Jim Ross on Saturday Night.
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TheKingslayer posted:Rick Steiner coming out every night to cut the same dog oriented promo has been just terrible. At least there is the light at the end of the tunnel with the glorious 9/27/99 Nitro, the most wonderful and incomprehensible television ever broadcast.
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If anyone's interested in the stream I've been following they're currently on Fully Loaded 99 https://twitch.tv/pinkdogfan1 It's been great for background noise.
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MassRafTer posted:At least there is the light at the end of the tunnel with the glorious 9/27/99 Nitro, the most wonderful and incomprehensible television ever broadcast. I just looked that Nitro up and my god I want it playing at my funeral.
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TheKingslayer posted:If anyone's interested in the stream I've been following they're currently on Fully Loaded 99 Been watching this lately too and it's been perfect. Took a sick day and it was something nice to bounce in and out of.
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I had no idea that thing in the parking lot and the thing with Not Luger were on the same night.
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how about this for a wrestling character Jushin “thunder” Luger
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Vagabundo posted:I had no idea that thing in the parking lot and the thing with Not Luger were on the same night. There are two other amazing things that happen on the same Nitro and three of the craziest segments are back to back to back.
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