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if anyone else has Good Mafia Tips that could be useful too
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Epsilon Plus posted:if anyone else has Good Mafia Tips that could be useful too Have fun and always join the sand alliance imo.
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Epsilon Plus posted:as we approach page 2,000, have we given any thought to starting up a new General Mafia Thread? I was thinking we could do a new/updated OP, maybe with a section on Basic Mafia Tactics, I could buy a banner ad, maybe we could get some fresh blood pumping through this aging horse? please do, this is a great idea
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Epsilon Plus posted:if anyone else has Good Mafia Tips that could be useful too t a s t e posted:just post
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Epsilon Plus posted:if anyone else has Good Mafia Tips that could be useful too An unconfirmed masonry is unconfirmed for a reason. Don’t screw yourself over by revealing too much too soon! Do not gently caress with unrecognized votefinder votes. It has been funny maybe once and usually it ends up derailing the game. Emergencies and crises happen, but generally you know if you’re going to have time to play a game. If you can’t set aside 30 minutes or so every day to read the thread and post a few times, don’t sign up. Don’t put cops in your games. Gunsmith, tracker, watcher, etc. are all much better investigative roles. Also do not post about how killing cops is praxis because it’s a really demented form of projection. Do not let Harold Krell into your games. Alternatively, always PM Harold Krell and tell him about new games.
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Feb 7, 2021 08:27
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Put cops in your games, Mafia tastes are varied, Flavor heavy games are fun and should always be filled immediately. Especially Somberbrero games.
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You're going to screw up while learning. You're going to screw up as a vet. It's a game, just remember it's in good fun.
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Feb 7, 2021 09:44
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Make a parachute account so you can play both sides
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Feb 7, 2021 09:55
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There is no such thing as a balanced set-up, just less unbalanced.
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Feb 7, 2021 16:48
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ilmucche posted:Make a parachute account so you can play both sides 
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Feb 7, 2021 17:09
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killing cops is praxis
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Feb 7, 2021 18:22
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Epsilon Plus posted:if anyone else has Good Mafia Tips that could be useful too Just do everything I tell you, exactly as I tell you, and you'll be fine
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Feb 7, 2021 18:34
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Mr. Humalong posted:An unconfirmed masonry is unconfirmed for a reason. Don’t screw yourself over by revealing too much too soon! I agree with all of these strongly drat maybe I should play mafia again
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Feb 7, 2021 19:15
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Feb 7, 2021 19:19
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flerp posted:killing cops is praxis
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Feb 8, 2021 00:48
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2 boxes of cornbread down, 10 to go 
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my own personal mafia tips (I'm not the greatest at mafia but w/e): - pay attention to the setup. if it's an open setup, there's no point in speculating about setup, because it's known. if it's closed, try to limit your speculation to reasonable ideas based on information present in the game and focus on the game. what-ifs are interesting, and potentially informative, but thoughts like "what if there's a serial killer who can only kill people at night who have an odd number of posts" or "what if there's a second cult" aren't going to go anywhere (yes I realize this is ironic for me to say) - related to the above, mafia is primarily a game of social deduction - the best clues come from other people's posts. night actions can be useful, but without participation in the day, nothing useful happens. even if you don't think of yourself as a Good Player, asking questions can help get your teammates in the right mindframe, even if your questions don't directly lead to answers - also related to the above, IMO nobody's really good at mafia. to elaborate: mafia is a team game and it's difficult for one person to be the decider of the fate of the game. don't be cowed by playing with someone who has one thousand games under their belt; experience is useful, they may be a little more skilled in asking the right questions or reading between the lines in posts, but don't let them intimidate you. more critically, don't let someone tell you you're Bad At Mafia. the person crowing about how you're obviously scum may be right this game, but they've been dead wrong in their last five, so gently caress 'em - you win the game with your team even if you, personally, are dead. particularly as vanilla town, if you eat a kill that could be meant for the town doctor because you were asking the right questions, you're doing good! do not fear death, fear only a lack of posts - Just Post. everyone has their own unique posting art, and especially for your first few games you might feel like you need to purposefully Post in a Special Way. just do what comes naturally! - day 1 has a reputation of being a dumb shitshow, but it's absolutely possible to hit scum day 1! once jokephase settles, don't feel like day 1 has to be a random or lurker lunch. express an opinion and build a case, even if it's thin. the worst thing that can happen is that your assumptions are proven wrong, which is data in its own right. - likable players live longer! you don't want to be a suckup, usually, but you definitely don't want to be a shithead. being insufferable greatly increases your chances of being removed from the game early because you're being a jackass, and no amount of claiming a PR will save you scum tips: - as scum, communicating with your teammates takes balance. too much coordination in your posting, and you may start inadvertently giving yourself away. too little, and swaying the rest of the town to your desires is a challenge. as a newbie, you definitely want to listen to your buddies and take their advice, but don't be afraid to have your own opinions and don't feel like they need to clear your posts or w/e - scum who post more are more likely to be successful IME. a frequent assumption is that scum are low-effort posters, or that scum are evenly distributed among the range of posts (i.e. there's one scum player who's topping the postcount, one who's lurking, and one in the middle) - if your scumteam is posting up a storm, you break this assumption! - bussing a teammate is a useful strategy from time to time, but don't feel like you need to immediately dogpile your scumbuds the minute they catch some heat. in most cases, one of your teammates dying means you have to survive yet another day to win - but if you can rack up a lot of cred by killing a partner and reduce suspicion, survival may be much easier
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I mean that’s all well and good but it implies there are right and wrong ways to play mafia and I don’t think that’s accurate
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Feb 8, 2021 03:37
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Retro Futurist posted:I mean that’s all well and good but it implies there are right and wrong ways to play mafia and I don’t think that’s accurate Winvirus claiming to have a post restriction requiring him to post in Hylian counts as "right"
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My only real game piece of advice is that the game isn’t about being right as much as it is knowing how to talk to, and in some cases talk through, others. Try as much as possible to shape the narrative you think you need, whether that’s posting a lot, posting at the right time, emotionally, logically etc.
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t a s t e is the mvp
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Retro Futurist posted:I mean that’s all well and good but it implies there are right and wrong ways to play mafia and I don’t think that’s accurate it's definitely a your mileage may vary situation, these are kind of just my personal guidelines generalized out t a s t e posted:My only real game piece of advice is that the game isn’t about being right as much as it is knowing how to talk to, and in some cases talk through, others. Try as much as possible to shape the narrative you think you need, whether that’s posting a lot, posting at the right time, emotionally, logically etc. this is definitely the good poo poo
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to expand my thoughts a bit: it's okay if two people's bits of advice contradict each other, as that establishes that there's not One True Path, I just wanna try to give some new players some kind of foothold/structure to start with
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t a s t e posted:My only real game piece of advice is that the game isn’t about being right as much as it is knowing how to talk to, and in some cases talk through, others. Try as much as possible to shape the narrative you think you need, whether that’s posting a lot, posting at the right time, emotionally, logically etc. Along the same lines, it doesn't matter if you are the king of scum hunting and are never wrong if you can't convince other people to go along with you. Mafia is primarily a social game, not a logic game. There are no bonus points for being right if you can't execute someone.
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Also, you don't have to respond to every post that says you're suspicious. Unless it is picking up steam you can just ignore it. It will often fizzle out on it's own if you just don't acknowledge it and keep trying to be helpful.
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It is better to be bad and chill than mad and good.
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Jose Valasquez posted:Along the same lines, it doesn't matter if you are the king of scum hunting and are never wrong if you can't convince other people to go along with you. Mafia is primarily a social game, not a logic game. There are no bonus points for being right if you can't execute someone. Yes this is a problem I have
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Sup Mafia Goons here's a super balanced open setup I brainstormed while playing Hades. Mafia (4): Hades (Mafia Godfather) - returns Town from cop results Lernie (Mafia Roleblocker) - prevents target from performing any night actions Theseus (Mafia Goon) Asterius (Mafia Goon) Town (14): Cop (Achilles) - returns Scum on Mafia except Godfather Doctor (Thanatos) - protects from a night kill, cannot target self Vanilla Town x 12 (Dusa, Nyx, House Contractor, Wretched Broker, Cerberus, Persephone, Cerberus, Patroclus, Sisyphus, House Contractor, Skelly, Bouldy) Every day two boons are announced, one-shot powers. Each day you must vote for two different players (and may not vote for yourself) who receive the boons. One vote is made publicly and the other is made in secret directly to the mod. The two players with the most votes receive one of the two boons, chosen randomly, with ties resulting in no rewards, and may then use them immediately that night. Mafia must vote for at least one non-Mafia player in addition to one Mafia player. Boons: Zeus - Jolted: roleblock Hermes - Haste: enhance power (target cannot be roleblocked, cop results return correct result on Godfather, etc.) Dionysus - In Vino Veritas: cop Athena - Deflect: doctor (cannot target self) Artemis - Marked: tracker Ares - Doom: vig kill Aphrodite - Unhealthy Fixation: watch Poseidon - Tempest: self-bulletproof Demeter - Chill: jailer Once all boons are collected they then begin again! Additional power roles if you're into that sort of thing and you want to throw balance out the window while keeping the set up open because open set ups are good: Persephone - town enhancer: target receives an additional use of their boon. Must not have used a boon prior to targeting. Charon - town vendor: provide a boon that has not yet been given to a player of your choice as a night action Eurydice - town empowerer: target a player - the next boon they receive after this night gets an additional use Hypnos - town logkeeper: each morning receive a list of all boons used the previous night
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Retro Futurist posted:I mean that’s all well and good but it implies there are right and wrong ways to play mafia and I don’t think that’s accurate The Mr steak day 1 play is objectively wrong
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Tommunist posted:The Mr steak day 1 play is objectively wrong As is Day 2 to 7 
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Yami Fenrir posted:As is Day 2 to 7 genuinely a fan of his day 2 onwards
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Tom Tucker posted:Sup Mafia Goons here's a super balanced open setup I brainstormed while playing Hades. One crucial flaw. Where is Meg?
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I've mostly chilled out and barely play (blame Hal for me even being in a game right now), but these would have been my prime merk tips: People can be persuaded to vote with you in different ways. Learn the player to try to learn how to persuade them. Sometimes, write cases to individual players. This can be helpful if you need their vote or want to see how they react to a case you wrote specifically for them. If you seem lost, start pushing buttons. Most people find it very hard to feign anger, so you might find scum cheaply. This is a controversial tip! Be careful! The only reason to respond to an unpersuasive case made against you is to determine the alignment of the case maker. Night action bingo is going to lose you the game if town. Use night actions to help inform casework, not find cheap eliminations. Don't be afraid to make a point, even if it is weak and going to be attacked as weak. Evaluate cases in the context of the game. What makes a case 'weak' on day 1 is very different from what makes a case 'weak' on day 6. Trust your gut.
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mafia players: just post and stay true to yourself merk: emotionally manipulate anyone and everyone you can without remorse
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Mr. Humalong posted:mafia players: just post and stay true to yourself I don't see how these things are mutually exclusive?
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Mafia advice for new players: Whatever, just do what you want.
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CapitalistPig posted:Mafia advice for new players: Also advice #2 - Join weekend at bernies mafia
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