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Gaz-L posted:I mean, it looks like Cap 4, which is what I expected. Again, the plan was for this to be the first of these shows, so it's "hey, it's the MCU but on your TV", and then Loki and WandaVision were meant to get a little weirder (but still marketably so). But COVID happened and here we are. The Captain America movies were the best ones so thats good.
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They also barely showed off anything. Like there's only one clip of Zemo and Walker. We got Madripoor there though, and that leads me to believe that we're gonna see a mutant or two. Also seems like we might get Sin? And there's likely gonna be characters from Black Widow. I think Marvel does a good job with the trailers of not giving away the whole thing but still giving a good idea of what the show is about.
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Yeah, it looks like a (high budget) television version of the Captain America films and I've got no problem with that, those films were great fun.
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Boxman posted:I actually like the theory that old sitcoms are her frame of reference for an idealized fantasy life in America. I totally forgot about this because it's right at the beginning of the episode but yeah, at the time this completely caught me off guard. I chalked it up to the slightly different "No." Wanda said in regards to the beekeeper in episode 3(4?), but the intent is completely different here. Its way too different to just be a b-shot, right?
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TheWorldsaStage posted:I totally forgot about this because it's right at the beginning of the episode but yeah, at the time this completely caught me off guard. I chalked it up to the slightly different "No." Wanda said in regards to the beekeeper in episode 3(4?), but the intent is completely different here. Its way too different to just be a b-shot, right? I think we've seen a few POVs: the in-universe TV show, Wanda's version, and the "real" version that we the viewers watch
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I've played this level a few times now in Hitman 3.
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It does seem kind of weird that all the focus from the SWORD crew is on Wanda. You'd think the 'good' crew (Monica, Jimmy and Darcy) would consider seeing if they can contact Vision, seeing as even in the edited version, they've seen him pushing back against Wanda's wishes.
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Codependent Poster posted:I think we've seen a few POVs: the in-universe TV show, Wanda's version, and the "real" version that we the viewers watch Sure, but didn't we see the 'She had to leave' line and Sword didn't see any line regarding Geraldine, Monica was just gone and cut to credits, right?
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The cameo will be CGI Ben Grimm, because the casting won't matter because they can always change it later like they did with Thanos.
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Codependent Poster posted:They also barely showed off anything. Like there's only one clip of Zemo and Walker. We got Madripoor there though, and that leads me to believe that we're gonna see a mutant or two. Also seems like we might get Sin? And there's likely gonna be characters from Black Widow. I can't wait to see more I assume if you see Sin, that means that Crossbones isn't far behind. Judging on the masks I'd say that is a safe bet. I am not so sure about Black Widow characters since that will be out in a month and they still haven't released that film yet.
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Djarum posted:I assume if you see Sin, that means that Crossbones isn't far behind. Judging on the masks I'd say that is a safe bet.
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Ok, so hear me out. My theory is the Gorilla Glue Girl is viral marketing for Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I mean, remember why Zemo always wore that purple hood we saw in the trailer...
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If Crossbones can come back from being loving exploded into a million pieces I guess we can bring lots of people back
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Boxman posted:Does the MCU have enough villains that lived through their movies' endings to do a Thunderbolts? Introducing a bunch of heroes then saying "TWIST they were villains" when we didn't see them be villains seems...sorta dumb. Don't highlight these spoilers unless you want to know about characters in the Hawkeye show or the Black Widow movie. Thunderbolt Ross and Justin Hammer. I've read about at least one character cast for Hawkeye that would work Swordsmanand there is a character from Black Widow that may work but it depends on if they survive. Taskmaster
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Kinda want the Female Taskmaster from the pretty terrible Deadpool MAX comic series. I'm top muskrat.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Kinda want the Female Taskmaster from the pretty terrible Deadpool MAX comic series. Bring in Greg Davies
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The Thunderbolts: U.S. Agent (Cap), Justin Hammer (Tony), Red Hulk (Hulk), Batroc (Natasha), Baron Zemo (Clint), Ghost (Thor) What is Valkyrie doing? Maybe an Asgardian could be useful against Wanda's magic? Azhais posted:Bring in Greg Davies Nevermind Ghost, Thor's spot will be taken by little Alex Horne
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drat, that looks great! Big Cap movies vibe, excellent, since I love those and consider them the best ones in the franchise, especially Cap 2. Big fan of well-done action sequences and it looks like this show will have them in spades. I've always though Stan and Mackie had great chemistry in what few scenes they had together so I hope this show massively expands on their relationship (I know it's not couple's counseling, but that was still a pretty funny bit). Glad to finally get some real shots of Sharon Carter, too, been waiting for that. Another month!
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sticklefifer posted:I think you're on the right track, but not for a long time. Shared cinematic universes started building up about 10-15 years ago, and now everyone's got one. Now that a multiverse is on the table, expect everyone to ape that for another decade or so. After that, the next logical step is probably "omniverse" crossovers that unite all the IPs that studios already own (Star Wars/Marvel/Alien, etc.), and then after that maybe we'll see competing studios working together. It also kind of depends on whether another Big Five studio gets bought out in that time. Right now ViacomCBS has the smallest market share, but I'd bet on a Warner buyout over a Disney buyout. In halcyon days of yore it didn't take omnimedia singularities concentrating every IP in existence to have cool crossovers 
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The year is 2051. You have taken your weekly covid-28 vaccine and it's time to relax before going for your line dancing in the pool with the rest of the gang of the rest home. You turn on your vr screen and it's episode 87 of the Agents of Amalgam Universe show. This episode will heavily feature the antihero Dark Claw and you try to forget the existence of the 28th batman movie that killed WB and set its path to the merger with Disney. A pop up on the side of your screen tells you Looper has already procedurally completed the "89 Easter eggs you missed" video which is 10x the length of your 59 minute show. Before you can move your finger it plays but not before broadcasting an advert of the new Genshin Impact (30th Anniversary) Remaster. You ignore the blood vessel bursting on your left forehead.
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The addictive high of 'the crossover that shouldn't happen' can never be satiated and is increasingly hard to achieve. It'll inevitably lead to disaster. Could be fun along the way through.
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Necrothatcher posted:The addictive high of 'the crossover that shouldn't happen' can never be satiated The perfect crossover does exist, it's just that we already had it on the 29th of February, 1980  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-SaBuN6I0E
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Boxman posted:Does the MCU have enough villains that lived through their movies' endings to do a Thunderbolts? Introducing a bunch of heroes then saying "TWIST they were villains" when we didn't see them be villains seems...sorta dumb. They hosed up Ghost's characterization Ant Man too much to have her properly follow the comic's version's thoroughline. In the comics Ghost is a paranoid conspiracy huffing weirdo that hasnt been out of his suit in years, that nonetheless figures out what was really happening in the organization and exploited it. Having an anticorporate anarchist in your Disney property is probably too much to ask for.
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McSpanky posted:In halcyon days of yore it didn't take omnimedia singularities concentrating every IP in existence to have cool crossovers 
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McSpanky posted:In halcyon days of yore it didn't take omnimedia singularities concentrating every IP in existence to have cool crossovers How do you ignore JLAvengers when it's just sitting there?  Even the actual characters appear to be disgusted with the title. Or something, anyway.
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tsob posted:How do you ignore JLAvengers when it's just sitting there? Because half the issues were Avengers/JLA so as not to give one company top billing over the other.
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tsob posted:How do you ignore JLAvengers when it's just sitting there? For that matter, what the hell is Tony looking at
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:For that matter, what the hell is Tony looking at The man doesnt want to see whatever is horrifying everyone else.
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Shageletic posted:They hosed up Ghost's characterization Ant Man too much to have her properly follow the comic's version's thoroughline. In the comics Ghost is a paranoid conspiracy huffing weirdo that hasnt been out of his suit in years, that nonetheless figures out what was really happening in the organization and exploited it. Having an anti-corporate anarchist in your Disney property is probably too much to ask for. One the other hand, anything that gets me more Hannah John-Kamen on any screen I watch is a good thing. Besides, now that she isn't in constant agony from being torn apart and restitched on a molecular level, maybe Ghost has some time to be a conspiracy huffing weirdo. The fact that this would also probably get me more Lawrence Fishburne is a bonus. I doubt this will happen any time soon because John-Kamen is likely going to locked into doing Resident Evil for the next ten years or so since she's Jill Valentine in the one premiering in September.
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Everyone posted:One the other hand, anything that gets me more Hannah John-Kamen on any screen I watch is a good thing. Besides, now that she isn't in constant agony from being torn apart and restitched on a molecular level, maybe Ghost has some time to be a conspiracy huffing weirdo. The fact that this would also probably get me more Lawrence Fishburne is a bonus. I doubt this will happen any time soon because John-Kamen is likely going to locked into doing Resident Evil for the next ten years or so since she's Jill Valentine in the one premiering in September. Adding Ghost to the Thunderbolts is a little inconsistent since her whole thing in Ant-Man and the Wasp was resenting being turned into a weapon by SHIELD. Why would she feel any better about it with Ross?
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Gaz-L posted:It does seem kind of weird that all the focus from the SWORD crew is on Wanda. You'd think the 'good' crew (Monica, Jimmy and Darcy) would consider seeing if they can contact Vision, seeing as even in the edited version, they've seen him pushing back against Wanda's wishes. I thought it seemed like they did via that email? ONE YEAR LATER posted:When it comes to time travel I just assume the timeline they're focusing on is the "real" one. No one cares what happened to Marty's original timeline or what happened to the bad 1985 timeline because the narrative focus is from Marty's perspective so that's the correct one. In the 1985A timeline, real estate/casino mogul Biff Tannen eventually went in hard on being a Twitter rear end, culminating in getting himself elected President in 2016.
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I was thinking about the -spoilers in case it comes true because I'm gonna have a big laugh if it does- Evans Peter character being Mephisto. Like, why would they chose that face? Well, they had to step in before Wanda and Vision realized that this poo poo is so messed up, and nothing better than hit her with something she missed a lot, and that being her brother. So, this isn't Quicksilver being pulled from another universe, this is a Mephisto that comes from the Fox-Universe and the only Quicksilver they know is Fox's Quicksilver. So Mephisto is a dumbass who panicked and hosed up hard.  I don't know, I would find that so drat funny. They are probably going for something more dark and creepy, tbh. So we will see.
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Spacebump posted:I think the aerospace engineer might be Justin Hammer. He is one and this show has brought back fan favorites with Darcy and Woo already. He’d fit right in naw, it's gonna be one of the Skrulls from Captain Marvey
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text editor posted:naw, it's gonna be one of the Skrulls from Captain Marvey I do enjoy Ben Mendelsohn
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Just going to throw this out there. Endgame is where the multiverse first was explored on camera but nobody seems to have realized it. They weren't actually time traveling but going into different universes that were very similar to the main MCU one.
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Spacebump posted:Just going to throw this out there. Endgame is where the multiverse first was explored on camera but nobody seems to have realized it. They weren't actually time traveling but going into different universes that were very similar to the main MCU one. It was kind of a bit of both, right? The whole point of Hulk's promise to the Ancient One was that he had to return the stone specifically because it otherwise would have created a new universe with very negative consequences for it.
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Speak posted:It was kind of a bit of both, right? The whole point of Hulk's promise to the Ancient One was that he had to return the stone specifically because it otherwise would have created a new universe with very negative consequences for it. Those other universes continue to exist with altered history. The negative consequences of not giving back the stone to the Ancient One are Dormammu would beat Doctor Strange and rule that universe.
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I would genuinely like to watch a Cap 4 where it's Rogers returning the Stones, and the problems he runs into with each. We saw the time heist to get them all, but there could be some fun problems with putting them back into place, and I'm curious about what the Cap/Skull scene would look like. This is a fun take on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vjs_0CoRs4
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Spacebump posted:Those other universes continue to exist with altered history. The negative consequences of not giving back the stone to the Ancient One are Dormammu would beat Doctor Strange and rule that universe. Bruce borrowing the Time Stone from the Ancient One and Steve returning it doesn't create another universe because that is how that sequence of events has always happened. Loki grabbing the Tesseract and escaping though, now that's a split universe.
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Andrew Verse posted:Bruce borrowing the Time Stone from the Ancient One and Steve returning it doesn't create another universe because that is how that sequence of events has always happened. That’s the same universe, so it’s moot.
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