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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
it's finally that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNqzbcr2Pw
this setup is loving radical

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


LifeSunDeath posted:

it's finally that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNqzbcr2Pw
this setup is loving radical

mario fart!

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

LifeSunDeath posted:

it's finally that time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNqzbcr2Pw
this setup is loving radical

The Minilogue XD is cool, I wished I'd waited a year and not stuck with the original model. :(

He has a really cool setup, and he applies the same LGR enthusiasm to it as he does to the retro tech which is great.

Humphreys posted:

mario fart!

Lost it at him losing it at the farts.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo54FZJkIMQ

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I just assume you all are familiar with Hainbach, and his slowly increasing collection of old test equipment, synths tuned for Japanese traditional music, Soviet recording gear and what have you?

https://youtu.be/1rUj2r4S0vE

rockinricky
Mar 27, 2003
You're not a true synth-head unless you make one out of 100 Game Boys or make one out of a Sega Genesis, like Sam Battle (LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER).

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


rockinricky posted:

You're not a true synth-head unless you make one out of 100 Game Boys or make one out of a Sega Genesis, like Sam Battle (LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD4dUMDWM58

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


why is this person shouting at me?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Last Chance posted:

why is this person shouting at me?

They're really loving stupid?

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Sam is ... hyper like a kid on a sleepover, and not a little ADHD, but I do think he's smarter than the first impression suggests. His explanations of electronic circuits are perfectly reasonable, if you are used to his style.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

He's just a bit British, I like him even if his music is way outside of my comfort zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_EPkHqU20

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

Sam is ... hyper like a kid on a sleepover, and not a little ADHD, but I do think he's smarter than the first impression suggests. His explanations of electronic circuits are perfectly reasonable, if you are used to his style.

He is the complete opposite of that Felix dude on The Ben Heck Show that sounded so bored with what he was coding that he was about to fall asleep.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

That music is great, thanks for the links!

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I wish lftkryo made more videos, he's the most musical genius i've ever seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j85kRucY8UI

rockinricky
Mar 27, 2003

Computer viking posted:

Sam is ... hyper like a kid on a sleepover, and not a little ADHD, but I do think he's smarter than the first impression suggests. His explanations of electronic circuits are perfectly reasonable, if you are used to his style.


And he looks like he just stepped out of the 1980s.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Buttcoin purse posted:

AOL stuff from four years ago

Hello Buttcoin purse! My old username was Uncle at Nintendo and you might remember a few years ago you helped me connect to AOL so that I could take a bunch of screen shots for the thread and try it out. I ended up getting it to work in a virtual machine but it was very slow and painful.

I recently received a Windows 98 laptop so I am loading it up with old great DOS and Win9x games, and I got the itch to check out AOL again, this time on real hardware.

Luckily I saved your Phaol1.zip. I installed the last version of Python that supported Windows 98 just like last time. I ran the setup python file and signed on to AOL6.0, which generates the config file which the command prompt said went fine.

However, whenever I try to sign on to AOL5.0, I get this error:



I am terrible with python so I am not sure what that error means. Could it have something to do with the way I set things up? Is there some sort of modification to the script that I should try?

The only other thing I can think of is I installed some unofficial Windows 98 "service pack" which is made by some retro PC gaming community; is it possible that installed some sort of firewall that I can't see that is causing this issue? For what it's worth I don't see anything about a Firewall anywhere in Windows 98 but I have no idea what else could be wrong.

I am able to connect to the internet just fine on the computer over ethernet by the way.

I hope to have some great content for this thread soon, if anyone cares!

I want to archive as much as humanly possible for reasons I am not even sure of!

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Getaddrinfo is the call used to look up the IP address given a host name, so the most likely - though not only - explanation is that the host name it's trying to look up does not exist. As for what address it's failaing on, it's whatever is in phaol_common.HOST.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

I want to archive as much as humanly possible for reasons I am not even sure of!

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that project! It looks like you're too late to archive anything :cry:

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/AOL says:

quote:

As of September 2018, AOL has closed down all methods of getting the old data. Back in March 2018, Matan2001 pointed out that AOL for Mac OS X works, but only on PPC's or lower. In August 2018, I managed to get a Tiger VM fully working and attempted to connect using the notes Matan2001 put on the wiki, but kept getting an error as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1oFcnEkBWI

Upon closer inspection and running a Man-in-the-middle attack on the application, I found that the program was querying americaonline.aol.com which is no longer registered as a valid subdomain

User:Adinbied tried finding old DNS records and started digging into the system a bit more, and found that the old system ran on the AOL Transit Data Network, which seems to be completely dead. He also went ahead and grabbed all of the data we did manage to grab from the AOL grab from here: https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_aol and started to look at what exactly the files consist of. Here's a WinDirStat overview of the files, with the largest percentage of the files being .zip, .exe, .wav, and .sit : https://i.imgur.com/0bOLxF1.jpg

americaonline.aol.com is what phaol_common.HOST is set to, so it's failing for the same reason that the standard AOL client would if you tried that without the tool.

That WinDirStat shows that they only have 17.7GB, which isn't much, although I suppose by the standards of the olden days it was? Only 13,648 .zip files doesn't seem like much though.

As with a lot of stuff on archive.org, the folks archiving it seem to have concentrated on saving the bits and are leaving the work of indexing it and make it easy for people to find stuff for later (which makes sense if you want to minimize how much is lost) so I guess if you're bored you could grab some of their archives and go through them looking for fun stuff to share here! I did see like .zip files of Windows 3 software from 1992 so it seems like it's legitimately old stuff, not just some "recent" files or something.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Picked up an Apple //e Platinum with a //e colour monitor and //e mouse to go with it, as well as a boxed copy of Mac OS 9

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
I hate to say it, but I don't think your new computer is powerful enough to run os9 . They really upped the requirements, you should probably return it to the store if it's still sealed

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Holy hell, $3,000?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3SPe7hv-DA

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Buttcoin purse posted:

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that project! It looks like you're too late to archive anything :cry:

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/AOL says:


americaonline.aol.com is what phaol_common.HOST is set to, so it's failing for the same reason that the standard AOL client would if you tried that without the tool.

That WinDirStat shows that they only have 17.7GB, which isn't much, although I suppose by the standards of the olden days it was? Only 13,648 .zip files doesn't seem like much though.

As with a lot of stuff on archive.org, the folks archiving it seem to have concentrated on saving the bits and are leaving the work of indexing it and make it easy for people to find stuff for later (which makes sense if you want to minimize how much is lost) so I guess if you're bored you could grab some of their archives and go through them looking for fun stuff to share here! I did see like .zip files of Windows 3 software from 1992 so it seems like it's legitimately old stuff, not just some "recent" files or something.

Aw that sucks. Of course Verizon had to buy them and mess the whole thing up. They probably saw the $40 electric bill the server was using and killed it.

They also officially killed all AOL chatrooms a month ago. This seems pretty ballsy because they charge monthly for AOL Desktop Gold and without the chat rooms I can't see why in the hell anyone would pay for it (well, more so than usual).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRap77miWWs

I would love some sort of archive.org AOL archive that is actually viewable. I don't really see any ways to mess with the files I just downloaded, which you pretty much mentioned. Is there any way to keep up on their progress of making it "viewable"? Do I just keep searching archive.org for "AOL" every once in a while or something?

I am gonna try a lot of the ZIP and EXE files on my Win98 laptop and let you know if I find anything cool.

By the way, the Phoenix people who brought back AOL Instant Messenger just started a project to bring back AOL 4.0 software. They are calling it Phoenix Desktop 1.0 (Alpha).



http://iwarg.ddns.net/phoenix/index.php?action=downloads2

I just tried it out and it's extremely unfinished so it's not really worth the download yet, but I am really hoping they somehow incorporate that archive.org data into it.

edit: Are you aware if AOL profiles were saved in the dump? Finding my friends' old profile text would be incredible.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬




I only got about 2/3 through that video before bed last night, but the final part better go into more detail about just how the install disk had a virus on it (according to the letter).

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Apparently there is a fourth floppy which is just “extra”

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

You Am I posted:

Picked up an Apple //e Platinum with a //e colour monitor and //e mouse to go with it, as well as a boxed copy of Mac OS 9

Nice! Just watch out for the RIFA caps in the power supply, they like to blow up.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

You Am I posted:

Picked up an Apple //e Platinum with a //e colour monitor and //e mouse to go with it, as well as a boxed copy of Mac OS 9

:homebrew:
(I assume)


I didn't watch that when it popped up in my feed because I already know the answer (it's no).

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

They probably saw the $40,000 electric bill the server farm was using and killed it.
Fixed :v: I mean I don't really know anything about their infrastructure, I'm just guessing.

quote:

I would love some sort of archive.org AOL archive that is actually viewable. I don't really see any ways to mess with the files I just downloaded, which you pretty much mentioned. Is there any way to keep up on their progress of making it "viewable"? Do I just keep searching archive.org for "AOL" every once in a while or something?
I don't know, maybe the archiveteam page for AOL is a better way to find out, but then it might just pop up somewhere else on the Internet on some random person's blog - it might not even be a member of the archiveteam that does it!

How many of the archives did you download?

quote:

I am gonna try a lot of the ZIP and EXE files on my Win98 laptop and let you know if I find anything cool.
Maybe you could also put all the files onto a more modern machine where some photo gallery application can index all the images and browse through thumbnails of them to see what kind of stuff is there.

By the way, the Phoenix people who brought back AOL Instant Messenger just started a project to bring back AOL 4.0 software. They are calling it Phoenix Desktop 1.0 (Alpha).

quote:

edit: Are you aware if AOL profiles were saved in the dump? Finding my friends' old profile text would be incredible.
I don't even know what a profile is - I never used AOL! - but those dumps made it sound like they were just of the file downloads.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Bargearse posted:

Nice! Just watch out for the RIFA caps in the power supply, they like to blow up.

Yep, I am going to get the spec of the cap and get a replacement from Jaycar.

I was at a vintage computer meet and took along some of my collection:


My grumpy as poo poo A1200, I really need to do a fresh WB 3.1 install on it. The Apple //e Platinum is the one I picked up yesterday


Commodore 486SLC (pretty much a hopped up 386SX) running DOS 6.22 on a CF card.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
That Apple //e looks much better than mine, which was rescued from the dumpster at a public school.

I used to find all kinds of things in school server rooms, like brand new unused 360k floppies, Apple expansion cards still in shrinkwrap, a Sharp XT laptop that still works, even a few Dell Poweredge servers left over from the last major tech overhaul in 2012, still good for a home lab.

The boss at my new job has given me the go-ahead to help myself to any old legacy crap I find in the company warehouse. No good finds yet but I’ll post anything good here as I find it.

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

Last Chance posted:

why is this person shouting at me?

There are so many youtube channels that deal in old, weird, forgotten, or even banned back in the day electronics that I would love to learn about. But the person hosting it has to scream and blow out their mic at every exciting discovery. It's a 30+ year old VGA graphics card settle down bub.

It's like the audio version of Youtube thumbnails where everyone has cartoon facial features. Bulbous glassy eyes and lolling tongues, jaw agape. CLICK ME, LOOK! I WAS ASTONISHED BY WHAT HAPPENED WHEN [click for full video]

It completely turns me off from some channels that cover stuff I think is really cool. I don't care what cool hardware or ancient console ROM you have to show me, if you are going to spend the whole time screeching and doing jump-scare cuts for a 1988 fantasy RPG.

Nobody actually enjoys this, right? It's just some algorithm thing?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

WITCHCRAFT posted:

There are so many youtube channels that deal in old, weird, forgotten, or even banned back in the day electronics that I would love to learn about. But the person hosting it has to scream and blow out their mic at every exciting discovery. It's a 30+ year old VGA graphics card settle down bub.

It's like the audio version of Youtube thumbnails where everyone has cartoon facial features. Bulbous glassy eyes and lolling tongues, jaw agape. CLICK ME, LOOK! I WAS ASTONISHED BY WHAT HAPPENED WHEN [click for full video]

It completely turns me off from some channels that cover stuff I think is really cool. I don't care what cool hardware or ancient console ROM you have to show me, if you are going to spend the whole time screeching and doing jump-scare cuts for a 1988 fantasy RPG.

Nobody actually enjoys this, right? It's just some algorithm thing?

part of that is played way up for laughs, but the general tone is just someone with adhd who's really excited about the topic

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I assume somebody out there has done some timeline kind of stuff like starting from an 8088 on up to a modern machine? I'm old enough I take for granted knowing about the evolution of memory over the years, and the ISA to PCI progression, and the evolution of GPUs over time, but it seems like it could be helpful for younger people to get a sense of the evolution of personal computers over the years.

And that whole screed was based on the previous post making me think about Rambus for some reason.

Never forget.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
The only people I watch regularly on youtube are Big Clive, NileRed, and Retro Game Mechanics Explained, because they are actually pleasant to listen to and present their content in an informative and entertaining way (and have charming, engaging personalities as well). RGME is the only gaming channel I follow aside from World of Longplays / TASVideosChannel / GDQ, but those are more content aggregation than an actual hosted channel. I don't even really care if I'm missing some super cool content that one of the others has, if the presentation is grating and insufferable, I just don't have the patience.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Modern Vintage Gamer has a few interesting videos I've watched. I haven't seen a lot of his videos, mainly just the one about NESticle, LensLok, and a few about anti-piracy on old consoles. There's also Curious Marc who has videos about vintage test equipment, teletype machines, and had a whole series about restoring an apollo guidance computer. I've seen a couple people complain about his videos, but I don't remember what the complaints were.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Cojawfee posted:

Modern Vintage Gamer has a few interesting videos I've watched. I haven't seen a lot of his videos, mainly just the one about NESticle, LensLok, and a few about anti-piracy on old consoles. There's also Curious Marc who has videos about vintage test equipment, teletype machines, and had a whole series about restoring an apollo guidance computer. I've seen a couple people complain about his videos, but I don't remember what the complaints were.

Yeah MVG is great. Clint from LGR is probably my favourite though.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Adrian's Digital Basement I find good for his trouble shooting work he does. And he seems so kind and chilled.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Last Chance posted:

why is this person shouting at me?
He's trying to make an announcer/ad voice in the intro of the video. Skip one minute in and he goes back to normal.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

Adrian's Digital Basement I find good for his trouble shooting work he does. And he seems so kind and chilled.

Oh yeah he is really good.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Yeah, I share his enthusiasm for Haribo gummies.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



If shouting and excitement isn’t your bag, then ‘RMC The Cave’ is always pretty chilled out from memory.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Just found this fella and I kinda like how he seems to hate everything he talks about. It's low quality so no stupid transitions, just in depth reviews. He did a really good one on mobile AOL messenger devices and you can feel the loathing.

This one is neat for camera nerds, and stay for the serial killer basement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrqVyLH3f9w

And this is actually a very good primer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sQF_K9MqpA
"Disclaimer, don't do this, you might go to jail!"
And the cheeky fucker is wearing a shirt that will zebra everywhere.

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