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I've been playing Danganronpa and am a bit confused. When does it get good? I think I am on day 3 and Moral dude just started a meeting. To this point nothing has really happened. It's just a VN where I can walk around a bit. I'm assuming there is going to be a game under this at some point? I've heard it is like Ace Attorney but so far it seems more like Pesona. --- How is tokyo twilight ghost hunters?
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More serious gameplay will happen, yeah. You are just in the very beginning right now. It shouldn't be too long until things happen.
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Feb 5, 2021 04:17
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Waltzing Along posted:I've been playing Danganronpa and am a bit confused. When does it get good? It's like if Ace Attorney had fairly substantial sections before the murders, so you've got extra padding on top of the investigations. You'll know whether or not you're into it by the end of the first chapter.
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Feb 5, 2021 05:22
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Waltzing Along posted:I've been playing Danganronpa and am a bit confused. When does it get good? I would say with confidence that Danganronpa has more gameplay than Ace Attorney and less than Persona. But yes, there are going to be very long stretches between courtroom sections that are basically all VN. The series' mystery gameplay is good, but the games are heavily dependent on the reader caring about at least some of the characters and their fates so if you're finding that the story drags for you that might be a red flag.
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Feb 5, 2021 05:22
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Chaos;Child -- Just starting chapter 6. The group escaped from the underground facility and they're at the coffee shop where Hinae reveals her ability to detect lies. That does mostly explain Hinae's odd behavior and why the detective and Kunosato wanted Hinae around. It seems odd that Takuru was completely unaware of his own ability. I may be overthinking, but I noticed that the girl Kunosato rescued/abducted? from the facility has the same type of ribbon in her hair that Kurusu does. I think Kurusu is genuinely trying to protect Takuru, but perhaps she was also trying to keep Takuru away from that girl as well?
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Feb 5, 2021 05:48
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Rockman Reserve posted:Questions: Yes. Specifically, you have until episode 7 to figure things out, both regarding that and in general.
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Feb 5, 2021 18:58
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Waltzing Along posted:I've been playing Danganronpa and am a bit confused. When does it get good? DR1 chapter 4 is the best one IMO. A bit like Ace Attorney, the first game is very good but takes a bit of time to properly find its feet. That said, once the actual "game" gets going you'll know if you like it or not. The first chapters of DR games can take some time to get going (V3's first chapter draaaags) but are usually really good introductions to the game - DR2 ch1 is one of my favorite chapters in the series (especially with the context of jumping into it right after the first game)
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Feb 5, 2021 19:33
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Cyouni posted:Yes. Specifically, you have until episode 7 to figure things out, both regarding that and in general. drat it. It's driving me nuts. This would seem to violate Knox's rules on some level but I keep thinking that Rokkenjima isn't an island the way it's presented, something about the way it's a significantly closed-off cat box from the rest of the world, the way the 'furniture' talks about how they'd inevitably be split up forever if they left and stuff...plus all the bodies that have seemed to vanish with nobody to move them. I don't know. (Umineko E6) Also I love your avatar. e: I have no idea how it would ever possibly work but reading Umineko has me really wanting some kind of adversarial 2p tabletop RPG along the same lines Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Feb 6, 2021 |
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Feb 5, 2021 21:26
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Chaos;Child - I deeply appreciate this game's commitment to finding different flavors of complete emotional devastation for all the character routes thus far.
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Feb 6, 2021 16:14
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Rockman Reserve posted:e: I have no idea how it would ever possibly work but reading Umineko has me really wanting some kind of adversarial 2p tabletop RPG along the same lines Not an RPG, but Tragedy Looper would work for a similar experience.
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Feb 6, 2021 16:58
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Tragedy Looper owns and I haven't played it in ages.
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Feb 6, 2021 17:00
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There has been an official WTC boardgame announced although there are no details on gameplay yet. https://www.siliconera.com/higurashi-umineko-when-they-cry-murder-mystery-board-game/
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Feb 6, 2021 17:06
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Cyouni posted:Not an RPG, but Tragedy Looper would work for a similar experience. Tragedy Looper rules, and a fun mastermind can turn it into an RPG 
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Feb 6, 2021 18:33
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I made it though the first trial. A bit confusing and trial and error to understand what I was supposed to do but eventually figured out the controls and finished. It occurs to me that some of the skills available you need to get ASAP or you miss out on them. Also, I don't think it is even possible to get them all on a single playthrough. I'm guessing it doesn't matter.
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Feb 6, 2021 23:59
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Umineko Ep 5/ epitaph question: I'm having trouble searching, but is there some significant town or city with '鮎' ('ayu', or sweetfish) in the name? Or am I completely and totally off-track by now?
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Feb 7, 2021 02:58
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Re:Umineko: Being a plebian, I researched knox's commandments of mystery novels and was surprised by the fifth: 5. No Chinaman must figure in the story. Resisting any big lebowski quotes, I was able to deduct the following: If any novel inferred "a shifty eyed foreigner" they were trash, even for the time they were written, and were KNOX worth reading.
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Feb 7, 2021 05:40
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Colorspray posted:Re:Umineko: Being a plebian, I researched knox's commandments of mystery novels and was surprised by the fifth: There's a reason most stories kinda skidaddle past that one. I'm too tired right now to type up a full reasoning, but if you ignore the racism it does make a certain point. The "Chinamen" is defined not as a character but by his status as a foreigner thus any story where one would be featured they would either be an obvious red herring. Or they'd be the obvious culprit. I'm only on chapter three of Umineko but the series has continued a long standing tradition of detective fiction in subverting Knox's laws. For example The Murder of Roger Ackroyd by Christie has the narrator as the murderer. Beatrice herself is a violation of a few of the laws, shes "Magical" you can see her thoughts, and she exists as a "Foreigner" to the family gathering.
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Feb 7, 2021 05:56
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good lord keep reading keep reading
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Feb 7, 2021 06:12
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Colorspray posted:Re:Umineko: Being a plebian, I researched knox's commandments of mystery novels and was surprised by the fifth: I actually love the full text of it. Ronald Knox's Ten Commandments for Detective Fiction posted:V. No Chinaman must figure in the story. Why this should be so I do not know, unless we can find a reason for it in our western habit of assuming that the Celestial is over - equipped in the matter of brains, and under - equipped in the matter of morals. I only offer it as a fact of observation that, if you are turning over the pages of a book and come across some mention of 'the slit - like eyes of Chin Loo', you had best put it down at once; it is bad. The only exception which occurs to my mind - there are probably others - is Lord Ernest Hamilton's Four Tragedies of Memworth. Basically it was a reaction to how mystery novels of the time liked to put in a mysterious Chinese man who probably sported a fu manchu as the culprit.
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Feb 7, 2021 10:46
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Gaius Marius posted:There's a reason most stories kinda skidaddle past that one. I'm too tired right now to type up a full reasoning, but if you ignore the racism it does make a certain point. The "Chinamen" is defined not as a character but by his status as a foreigner thus any story where one would be featured they would either be an obvious red herring. Or they'd be the obvious culprit. ch5 spoilers I think Bernkastel makes a joke about this too in the Chapter 5 trial, jokingly calling Battler's solution 'And Then There Were No Ackroyds' - And Then There Were None's connection to Umineko is obvious but the Ackroyd one refers to The Murder of Roger Ackroyd using the same 'the narrator can be the murderer because he isn't the detective' trick. also And Then There Were None violates the laws in an even more blatant way - the murder is never "solved" by a detective - the police just come across a confession bottle from the culprit detailing the crime instead.
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Feb 7, 2021 14:57
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Alright I've been sitting on this for weeks now and I'm at a point where I clearly just need to post these. Umineko spoilers up to the end of chapter 6. First off, closing remarks for chapter 5: https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=158216 Then, futile ramblings about the epitaph: https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=158217 And then thoughts on chapter 6 in three parts: https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=158218 ...Rereading over some of these I can't help but feel some sort of despair seeping out between the lines of my own writing, but really, I don't mean it like that, I think. I guess it's probably my current frustrations with the world at large affecting my thoughts here.
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Feb 7, 2021 19:41
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In general, I would invite you to perhaps re-review some of the aspects of EP5 that were introduced/explored. What might be some elements in previous stories that you might notice some things in if you analyzed them through the lens provided from that EP in particular?
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Feb 7, 2021 23:36
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I'm finally taking a break from Umineko, I'm at the part in Episode 6 that leads to what we saw in the intro and Featherine outright saying "sit down and think about this for a bit" has me doing just that. What a horrible trap.
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Feb 8, 2021 00:01
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Rockman Reserve posted:e: I have no idea how it would ever possibly work but reading Umineko has me really wanting some kind of adversarial 2p tabletop RPG along the same lines Tragedy Looper, maybe? It's technically 1 vs 3, but a single person can play the 3 investigators. e: oops, should have read the rest of the thread before replying
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Feb 8, 2021 02:21
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One thing I definitely like about danganronpa is it is fairly episodic. You can play for an in-game day then come back later and it doesn't feel you are stopping in the middle of anything.
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Feb 8, 2021 02:30
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Is Utawarerumono worth checking out with the first game now brought over?
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Feb 8, 2021 02:47
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Unlucky7 posted:Is Utawarerumono worth checking out with the first game now brought over? Hell yeah it is
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Feb 8, 2021 05:28
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Note that even in its remastered, cut form, the original Utawarerumono is an eroge-rear end VN. The awkwardly justified sex still happens, it's just not shown to the player. It feels like a 90s hentai movie at times, even. It doesn't come up often, but it's noticeable when it does. The sequels (The "Mask" games) don't suffer from this issue since they were made as non-porny console games from the start.
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Feb 8, 2021 06:01
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Playing through Robotics;Notes Elite on switch. Is the skip function just broken or am I missing something stupid? I got one ending and am going back to do the proper triggers w/a guide now, but setting it to skip read text it will only skip like 1 line even though I've played the entire chapter already.
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Feb 8, 2021 09:39
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The skip read function works bizarrely in that, if theres some pattern to it working or not I never figured it out. Just use the force skip button, it's not the sort of game that adds stuff to bits you've already seen.
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Feb 8, 2021 10:17
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Two random thoughts about the witch's epitaph: -Does it have something to do with Kamogawa or another river in Kyoto? -What was the inscription over Kuwadora or whatever that was in the picture with Kumasawa's son in Episode 4? It was something about a one a trillion chance or something, right? I admit that my wife got annoyed with me scrawling down thoughts and theories and stuff and she looked up the epitaph, and told me something about in the Japanese text, the character 郷 should have been 京, which has opened up a few more avenues for thinking while still leaving me pretty lost. Kind of assuming it means in the second line referring to the Golden Land and not the first line, but even that I'm not sure of at all.
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Feb 8, 2021 21:33
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Rockman Reserve posted:Two random thoughts about the witch's epitaph: 'This door is opened only at a probability of a quadrillion to one. You will be blessed only at a probability of a quadrillion to one'. I believe it's the inscription on the chapel.
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Feb 8, 2021 21:44
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 Hahaha I was honestly kind of hoping it was anything but that, specifically so I could cut off that line of reasoning. Okay. Maybe I’m not way off base then.e: wait my thinking would rely on it being ten times that much so I guess I’m just a moron
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Feb 8, 2021 21:48
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Rockman Reserve posted:-Does it have something to do with Kamogawa or another river in Kyoto?
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Feb 8, 2021 21:52
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Well, that doesn't help me. Time to hit the books or something I guess. Insult to injury, I now also have the vocals version of Happy Maria! stuck in my head super badly. Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Feb 8, 2021 |
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Feb 8, 2021 22:34
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You guys can't trick me into trying to solve the epitath. I won't fall for it
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Feb 9, 2021 02:36
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Gaius Marius posted:You guys can't trick me into trying to solve the epitath. I won't fall for it Considering how it's borderline impossible without knowing Japanese and reading the Japanese version, you really shouldn't try. Lord knows the translators didn't try.
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Feb 9, 2021 02:45
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I know enough Japanese to use Jdic, If I can throw my head against a wall long enough to beat Super Robot wars Z I'm sure I could solve this drat riddle.
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Feb 9, 2021 02:51
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I'm really just focusing on it now as a distraction while I try to ponder (e6) how to get Battler out of the room after the shower trick. The only thing I can think of is that it isn't really possible without Erika's help, so she must help...but I don't know how that plays into her as a piece vs. as a player...I don't think it works.
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I'm still stunned that someone in the Umineko LP thread solved it.
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