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smooth jazz posted:When touchscreens in cars became common, say 8-10 years ago, everyone I know including myself almost killed themselves within 5 minutes of leaving the dealership. FYI Ford volume knob is a capacitive stylus bolted to the glass, aka if the touchscreen goes on the fritz the knob stop working. It’s a step in the right direction but I would have preferred a less crash prone option
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ilkhan posted:Agreed. I have no idea how fussy you'd have to be to touch your HVAC more than once a, uh, ever. Turn it on auto and never touch again. Maybe adjust when seasons change? Cold places you want to run the defroster in winter but not all the time. But agreed, the amount of adjustment is pretty low, even in my totally manual climate control car. I just mostly adjust when stopped.
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Feb 9, 2021 14:34
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SlowBloke posted:FYI Ford volume knob is a capacitive stylus bolted to the glass, aka if the touchscreen goes on the fritz the knob stop working. It’s a step in the right direction but I would have preferred a less crash prone option The 21 F-150 got it right. Same size and system as the MachE but it includes all the physical controls just below. Seen here: https://twitter.com/therealautoblog/status/1358067928361562112?s=21
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Feb 9, 2021 14:53
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Patro posted:This is still my favorite setup. They're changing it into a big glass panel for remote activation and deactivation of features. poo poo while they're at it anything could be subscription based with these giant screens or stupid haptic feedback panels. That's why buttons are going away. It's about as distracting as a touchscreen because you still have to look down to find stuff. The buttons are small and not differentiated well by feel or color, and the giant button bank means there's no place to put your phone.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:03
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Godzilla07 posted:It's about as distracting as a touchscreen because you still have to look down to find stuff. The buttons are small and not differentiated well by feel or color, and the giant button bank means there's no place to put your phone. The phone can go in your pocket.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:06
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MrLogan posted:The phone can go in your pocket. Then how will you browse instagram at stoplights?
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I like auto well enough in the summer, but hate how insistent it seems to be on running the A/C compressor in the winter. It's been this way in pretty much every car I've used it in.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:26
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ilkhan posted:Agreed. I have no idea how fussy you'd have to be to touch your HVAC more than once a, uh, ever. Turn it on auto and never touch again. Maybe adjust when seasons change? Someone doesn't have a menopausal spouse.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:27
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Wistful of Dollars posted:4 if you count the driver. Boom. Roasted. KakerMix posted:Yeah what the hell, especially this vent: I really miss mine in the 3rd 4Runner. Kept my nuts nice and cool in the summer.
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opengl128 posted:I like auto well enough in the summer, but hate how insistent it seems to be on running the A/C compressor in the winter. It's been this way in pretty much every car I've used it in. That's a good thing. Not only does it keep the system lubricated, it uses it to remove moisture from the air to keep the windows from fogging.
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bull3964 posted:That's a good thing. Not only does it keep the system lubricated, it uses it to remove moisture from the air to keep the windows from fogging. You mentioned the excellent electric power steering of the BRZ a few pages back. The auto climate control of my BRZ also did very well at running the a/c to keep moisture down during midwest winters. Other than ground clearance and somehow everyone else's inability to see the brightest blue car on the road, a BRZ with snow tires was a great midwest winter car. I think I'll get another once I no longer need the constant utility of my pickup.
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If you don't need to seat 4 people or haul higher huge items, the BRZ is borderline the perfect car. Cheap to run, uncomplicated, and has been mostly major issue free (aside from that range that had valve issues.)
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During winter pretty much every time I start my car I have adjust seat heater controls, defrosters for windscreen and rear window and set the blower to blow to windows to clear ice or steam. And all of that I want to do with my warm gloves or mittens on. No way do I want to freeze my fingers fiddling with some laggy touch screen. In fact, Volvo V90 would be high on my next car list if not for the idiotic all touch screen interface. C'mon Volvo, you swedes should know better!
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bad_fmr posted:During winter pretty much every time I start my car I have adjust seat heater controls, defrosters for windscreen and rear window and set the blower to blow to windows to clear ice or steam. And all of that I want to do with my warm gloves or mittens on. No way do I want to freeze my fingers fiddling with some laggy touch screen. In fact, Volvo V90 would be high on my next car list if not for the idiotic all touch screen interface. C'mon Volvo, you swedes should know better! That's one bonus about my F150. I just crank the temperature button hard right towards "warmth" and with the stock settings it turns all that on. Maybe not the seat heater, but the rest just happens. Plus it turns the side mirror heaters on. And yeah, single with no kids so when I had the BRZ the rear seats were down and both fronts were full back. Trunk entrance was a bit fiddly sometimes but other than that it was everything I loved about my AE86 Corolla but with modern crash standards. Only complaint was that you needed to double clutch some shifts when the transmission was cold. And maybe once in a while I'd frown at the torque dip. Oh and the poo poo stock tires. The new 2.4 and better tires should eliminate those complaints completely.
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bull3964 posted:If you don't need to seat 4 people or haul higher Unfortunately it is terribly laid out for long-legged people. I was ready to buy one, was going to take a test drive, sat down, and my right knee occupied 100% of the space between the steering wheel and shift knob.
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Feb 9, 2021 18:09
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My Omega had dual zone climate control and if you pressed the dedicated defrost button, it would direct the air to the windshield, turn the heat to max, and (I think) turn on the AC. Normally it would also keep the fan speeds low until the coolant was warmed up to avoid blasting you in the face with cold air. There's a knob for temperature and a button to increase/decrease fan speed.  It's a pretty good system and it seems they had this poo poo figured out like 20 years ago. In contrast the fully manual one in my miata definitely requires a lot more fiddling, not enough to be annoying or anything, but at startup I have to change to the windshield, crank the temperature and fan speed, and then afterwards put everything back the way I want to. I don't have a car fancy enough to hide everything behind a touchscreen but it's certainly going to be annoying. You can't just set it at 21 degrees and leave it there as my preference depends on the temperature outside, whether or not I feel warm or cold, what I'm wearing, etc., etc.
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Sorry to detract from buttonchat, but is anyone else wondering why the hell there are still no press reviews of the new M3/M4? Are they seriously going to wait until after they're delivered to customers to let people review them?
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I could've sworn I saw one video, but looking back through my youtube history it was the M440i so not the fullblown M cars. Straight Pipes did a video a few months ago, but clicking through it again just now there's no driving segment. And I kinda don't like their content anyways.
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Feb 9, 2021 18:38
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New car chat. I need $250k. https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/38543/scg-boot-review-a-650-hp-street-legal-baja-racer-is-one-of-the-most-entertaining-cars-on-earth  quote:Even by today’s standards, it's a radical design with zero front or rear overhang and an engine dangling out back. Start with a custom tube-frame chassis riding on a four-wheel independent suspension and 3" internal-bypass Fox coilovers that provide a silly 18 inches of travel. Throw in a supercharged LT4 from a Camaro ZL1 (and, don't forget, the Cadillac CTS-V) and a four-speed 4L80E automatic transmission with a low-range transfer case. Pop on some 17-inch beadlock wheels shod in 37-inch BFGoodrich mud tires. Sprinkle the barest hint of bodywork all over, but don't forget the power seats and Apple CarPlay. Presto, you've baked yourself a Boot.
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Sab669 posted:I could've sworn I saw one video, but looking back through my youtube history it was the M440i so not the fullblown M cars. Yeah, there are a million "LOOK AT THE INTERIOR GUYS" videos and some "Here's it idling from a cold startup" videos, but the only two where anyone has actually driven it were when Supercar Blondie drove it 60 ft in a driveway and an old one where Shmee drove it at highway speeds on a track following a BMW employee. Gimme a fuckin Throttle House or Savagegeese review, goddamnit.
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Feb 9, 2021 18:42
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Gangringo posted:Unfortunately it is terribly laid out for long-legged people. I was ready to buy one, was going to take a test drive, sat down, and my right knee occupied 100% of the space between the steering wheel and shift knob. I got a 36" inseam and it fits well for me.
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Audi officially revealed the e-tron GT. Base model makes 469 hp and 464 lb-ft of torque in regular operation and 523 hp and 472 lb-ft when using launch control. The RS model makes 590 hp, 637 hp with launch control, with 612 lb-ft of torque. 0- 60 time for the RS model is 3.1 seconds so it fits between the Taycan and Taycan Turbo. It has a 93.4-kWh battery pack with 800 volt charging capability. Using a 270 kW charger it can go from 5% to 80% in about 22 minutes. 238 miles of range for the base car, 232 miles for the RS. The base model weighs 5060 lbs, while the RS is 5139 lbs. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35448659/2022-audi-e-tron-gt-rs-revealed-photos-specs-msrp/  
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No to those wheels. Yes to half the front of the car not being a big fake grille.
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mobby_6kl posted:
Full size image: https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/a210283-large-1612890104.jpg
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TheMadMilkman posted:Someone doesn't have a menopausal spouse.
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Not digging those wheels, or the weird black "frame" around the not-grille. Not sure if it's better or worse than the Mach-E's mustache. What is color that, pea green vomit??  Interior, sides, and rear do look good though.
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Sab669 posted:Not digging those wheels, or the weird black "frame" around the not-grille. Not sure if it's better or worse than the Mach-E's mustache. What is color that, pea green vomit?? https://www.caranddriver.com/audi/e-tron-gt
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Mr. Apollo posted:They have a bunch of normal colors here Yea your first link had some others in more normal colors too. Overall not bad. I think I'd take the RWD Taycan which is supposedly going to be a fair bit cheaper*, but that this comes with AWD for a similar price is neat I guess. edit: * cheaper than its AWD variant I mean. Not cheaper than the etron. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Audi officially revealed the e-tron GT. Base model makes 469 hp and 464 lb-ft of torque in regular operation and 523 hp and 472 lb-ft when using launch control. The RS model makes 590 hp, 637 hp with launch control, with 612 lb-ft of torque. 0- 60 time for the RS model is 3.1 seconds so it fits between the Taycan and Taycan Turbo. I think it looks great but at 108k for the premium plus it's out of my range. 
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Gangringo posted:Unfortunately it is terribly laid out for long-legged people. I was ready to buy one, was going to take a test drive, sat down, and my right knee occupied 100% of the space between the steering wheel and shift knob. You must be a mutant of a human being because I'm 193cm tall with long limbs and my knee never occupied that space. edit: If it were possible I'd get the seats about 2-4cm lower, 2-4cm further back, and give them seat length / thigh support adjustment. Maybe a few more cm closer adjustment of the steering wheel. antimatt fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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Murgos posted:I think it looks great but at 108k for the premium plus it's out of my range. Jesus Christ, $100,945 to start. *Adds to list of cool poo poo that is out of the question.
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I like that cool EVs from real manufacturers are starting to materialize, but wake me up when they start at 40k so normal people can afford them
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bad_fmr posted:During winter pretty much every time I start my car I have adjust seat heater controls, defrosters for windscreen and rear window and set the blower to blow to windows to clear ice or steam. And all of that I want to do with my warm gloves or mittens on. No way do I want to freeze my fingers fiddling with some laggy touch screen. In fact, Volvo V90 would be high on my next car list if not for the idiotic all touch screen interface. C'mon Volvo, you swedes should know better! You can configure the car to start up with the seat heaters and steering wheel heater and max defrost enabled and then remote start it with your phone so it's like getting into an oven when you crack the door.
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Sab669 posted:Yea your first link had some others in more normal colors too. The RWD Taycan starts at 79900 but this being Porsche it takes at least 25k just to get it decently optioned.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Audi officially revealed the e-tron GT. This doesn't bode well for their electronic mirrors, their new halo car reverted to conventional glass...
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SlowBloke posted:This doesn't bode well for their electronic mirrors, their new halo car reverted to conventional glass... That might be a government regulation thing just like the headlights.
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bad_fmr posted:During winter pretty much every time I start my car I have adjust seat heater controls, defrosters for windscreen and rear window and set the blower to blow to windows to clear ice or steam. And all of that I want to do with my warm gloves or mittens on. No way do I want to freeze my fingers fiddling with some laggy touch screen. In fact, Volvo V90 would be high on my next car list if not for the idiotic all touch screen interface. C'mon Volvo, you swedes should know better! The center screen on newer Volvos (SPA and onwards) can be operated with gloves, as it is not using capacitive interface. Front & rear defrost are still buttons (as are hazard, volume, play/pause and skip) The screen can be laggy sometimes though, especially early revisions. Volvo posted:An infrared light curtain just above the surface of the screen enables the screen to detect when a finger is directly in front of the screen. This technology makes it possible to use the screen even while wearing gloves.
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