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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

As Nero Danced posted:

Changing topics, I have a question about the Senate rules. Can they change the rules to remove the filibuster, then change them again and restore it? That sounds like the kind of poo poo McConnell would do.

Yes. Rules need only a simple majority to change.

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Holy poo poo it's cold out this morning.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


I wonder if they could stealth abolish the senate by making an internal rule giving each senators vote a weight of 1/2 their states population.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
They benefit too much from the system being like it is, no one is changing poo poo like that.

I'd rather random people be drawn from the populace to govern for one term than this poo poo where billions are spent trying to get the razor thin margins of voters to pick between two parties.

This poo poo where congresscritters can get reelected indefinitely is mighty loving stale and leads to more garbage than good.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

https://mobile.twitter.com/RandazzoTweets/status/1360113944547889156

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

Well that does explain some of the craziness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2vGaZlTdE&t=5s

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

GoGoGadget posted:

DoDEA teachers are already being vaccinated. My wife got her second dose yesterday. Funny how federal teachers are more important than regular ones.

Federal priorities != State priorities.

Beyond that, each state is allowed to change the priority list.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Colorado, the Wests' West Virginia with weed.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Hey here's a thought maybe not gently caress over a bunch of underpaid teachers and instead fund social programs so that the only option for kids getting food, social work access, and education isn't being crammed into a plague incubator. Or fund hiring of additional teachers and aides so the classes can be split into safe pod sizes.

I'm going to address this one: there is no space to split classes. Most school systems are ten years behind on construction priorities, so there is literally no space to split classes like you are describing.

There's always more teachers, just stop drug testing.

There's always more books, just replace less often.

There is no magical extra classroom square footage.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

Coasterphreak posted:

I'm going to address this one: there is no space to split classes. Most school systems are ten years behind on construction priorities, so there is literally no space to split classes like you are describing.

There's always more teachers, just stop drug testing.

There's always more books, just replace less often.

There is no magical extra classroom square footage.

Just like the other things Stultus mentioned, it's a matter of funding and priority. There are tens of millions of laid off people, and schools aren't exactly cutting edge construction.

If we started half a year ago, schools could be much safer now. Instead the government firehosed cash at businesses as usual.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I know outdoor classroom spaces aren't ideal for a lot of the country, but wouldn't shifting the school year to everyone being home over winter instead of summer and holding class on the lawn while it's warm make some manner of sense? I see the occasional news piece about it, but never hear about any implementation into large systems, always just some wacky school in California letting grade schoolers mill around in the woods for a few hours a day or something, not setting up boundaries and rolling whiteboards onto the lawn.


Kids don't need to be home all summer to work their video game crops, you can harvest those any time of year.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
I can't speak to the science of the risk of school spread, but the resulting policy recommendation is inherently political. Excepting those populations in assisted living who have no option or ability to follow guidelines, seniors absolutely should be behind the essential workers who we are demanding put their own lives at risk to serve us. Even if current studies suggest they're at marginally lower risk of death than a senior who is either irresponsible or tragically has an irresponsible family, the frontline worker either deserves vaccination priority or generous hazard pay and proper investment in making their workplaces safer.

Literally no one here is "mocking low-income families for wanting their kids to be back in school" (wtf?). Some are underrating the importance of childhood education. But if you're concerned about the kids, then take care of the teachers rather than seeking to write them off as "less likely" to be impacted by Covid.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Have four minutes of Champ and Major. And some dude and his wife I guess.

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1360215437427027969?s=19

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

I know outdoor classroom spaces aren't ideal for a lot of the country, but wouldn't shifting the school year to everyone being home over winter instead of summer and holding class on the lawn while it's warm make some manner of sense? I see the occasional news piece about it, but never hear about any implementation into large systems, always just some wacky school in California letting grade schoolers mill around in the woods for a few hours a day or something, not setting up boundaries and rolling whiteboards onto the lawn.


Kids don't need to be home all summer to work their video game crops, you can harvest those any time of year.

This is literally illegal in NC because LOL tourism industry and nobody will change it since most of the state legislature is made up of reps from counties that rely on it

stackofflapjacks
Apr 7, 2009

Mmmmm

McNally posted:

Are you loving kidding me

I'm sorry, I've had two family members die of the Rona recently and seeing someone just rah rah'ing pisses me the gently caress off.

I'm reading Ike by Michael Korda and he talks about how during WW2 the Brits response to "How are you?" Is usually "Carrying on" or "Mustn't grumble".

It feels like that everywhere I look in America except bizarro inverted where people are still acting like nothing's wrong and people still can't wear some motherfucking masks. Nevermind the systemic failure to contain a known pandemic and instead our leaders just Maybe you'll all die? dot gif

So yes I am sick and God drat tired of seeing people act as if the Federal Government has any shred of credibility left regardless of whose FAULT it is. Our current savior government is giving out 'stimulus' with no plan to actually contain, test and trace, national quarantine and transmission reset, or loving anything.

It feels simultaneously excellent for us as a society to finally decide to stop digging; yet also horrifying how little is actually going to make a difference for a long time. Because number must go up.

Again sorry, I'll log off now

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

stackofflapjacks posted:

no plan to actually contain, test and trace, national quarantine and transmission reset, or loving anything.

False.

FEMA has been activated to set up testing and vaccine locations, and it was recently announced that they will be receiving support from DOD. Vaccines are being distributed to CVS, Walgreens, Wal-Mart, Sam’s Club, and several major other retail pharmacies and it is expected that they will start jabbing arms today. The federal government has increased the amount of weekly vaccines shipped to states from 10.5 million to 11 million. We are exceeding our goal of 100 million vaccinations in 100 days. We have invoked the defense production act to get J&J’s vaccine mass produced. We have ordered 100 million more vaccines from Moderna, increasing the total to 300 million.

This is all in just the last few weeks and isn’t an exhaustive list.

boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Feb 12, 2021

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

stackofflapjacks posted:

I'm sorry, I've had two family members die of the Rona recently and seeing someone just rah rah'ing pisses me the gently caress off.

I'm reading Ike by Michael Korda and he talks about how during WW2 the Brits response to "How are you?" Is usually "Carrying on" or "Mustn't grumble".

It feels like that everywhere I look in America except bizarro inverted where people are still acting like nothing's wrong and people still can't wear some motherfucking masks. Nevermind the systemic failure to contain a known pandemic and instead our leaders just Maybe you'll all die? dot gif

So yes I am sick and God drat tired of seeing people act as if the Federal Government has any shred of credibility left regardless of whose FAULT it is. Our current savior government is giving out 'stimulus' with no plan to actually contain, test and trace, national quarantine and transmission reset, or loving anything.

It feels simultaneously excellent for us as a society to finally decide to stop digging; yet also horrifying how little is actually going to make a difference for a long time. Because number must go up.

Again sorry, I'll log off now

British stoicism was in the face of all the hardships they endured like rationing and blackouts, accepting them as absolutely necessary to win the war. Probably not a good comparison to today.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

stackofflapjacks posted:

I'm sorry, I've had two family members die of the Rona recently and seeing someone just rah rah'ing pisses me the gently caress off.

I'm reading Ike by Michael Korda and he talks about how during WW2 the Brits response to "How are you?" Is usually "Carrying on" or "Mustn't grumble".

It feels like that everywhere I look in America except bizarro inverted where people are still acting like nothing's wrong and people still can't wear some motherfucking masks. Nevermind the systemic failure to contain a known pandemic and instead our leaders just Maybe you'll all die? dot gif

So yes I am sick and God drat tired of seeing people act as if the Federal Government has any shred of credibility left regardless of whose FAULT it is. Our current savior government is giving out 'stimulus' with no plan to actually contain, test and trace, national quarantine and transmission reset, or loving anything.

It feels simultaneously excellent for us as a society to finally decide to stop digging; yet also horrifying how little is actually going to make a difference for a long time. Because number must go up.

Again sorry, I'll log off now

Don't log off.

Passionate opinions and arguments aren't what's bad for this subforum. They're good in my humble and stupid opinion.
I haven't lost any close and dear members to Covid, and only have four friends or acquaintances that have caught it, some of which are still dealing with the consequences, so I can't say I know what you're going through, but I can empathize.

I'm not gonna ask anyone to apologize for the anger they have for an issue, because - quite frankly - idiots in this dumb forum of ours speaking equally frankly on their experiences and emotions is what makes it actually genuine for me as a eurosocialistvet outsider.
The only thing that I feel is bad is defaulting to emotionally-exhausted irony-posting, and I can't pretend I didn't do so in the past myself.

poo poo loving sucks. Let's talk about how poo poo sucks, why poo poo sucks, and how we're affected by poo poo sucking. In my naive bubble of not-quite-atrophied German optimism I would just wish we would do so without antagonizing others in a cesspool of constant irony-posting.

I love reading all your dumb opinions, assholes <3

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Don't log off.

Passionate opinions and arguments aren't what's bad for this subforum. They're good in my humble and stupid opinion.
I haven't lost any close and dear members to Covid, and only have four friends or acquaintances that have caught it, some of which are still dealing with the consequences, so I can't say I know what you're going through, but I can empathize.

I'm not gonna ask anyone to apologize for the anger they have for an issue, because - quite frankly - idiots in this dumb forum of ours speaking equally frankly on their experiences and emotions is what makes it actually genuine for me as a eurosocialistvet outsider.
The only thing that I feel is bad is defaulting to emotionally-exhausted irony-posting, and I can't pretend I didn't do so in the past myself.

poo poo loving sucks. Let's talk about how poo poo sucks, why poo poo sucks, and how we're affected by poo poo sucking. In my naive bubble of not-quite-atrophied German optimism I would just wish we would do so without antagonizing others in a cesspool of constant irony-posting.

I love reading all your dumb opinions, assholes <3

Sir, this is a Five-Guys, and while I understand that Five-Guys has not yet established drive-thrus in your country, I would ask that you contain your ranting to items on the menu

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Five Guys hah wait until you get CookOut

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Colorado, the Wests' West Virginia with weed.

I dunno, doesn't Idaho have a claim on that too?

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

shame on an IGA posted:

Five Guys hah wait until you get CookOut

CookOut can give Jack in the Box a run for their money in the stoner demographic...

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Just like the other things Stultus mentioned, it's a matter of funding and priority. There are tens of millions of laid off people, and schools aren't exactly cutting edge construction.

If we started half a year ago, schools could be much safer now. Instead the government firehosed cash at businesses as usual.

It’s fine to be angry about funding and prioritization. It’s hosed! But it doesn’t follow that the result should be screwing over the people with the absolute least possible influence on those decisions: children.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


shame on an IGA posted:

Five Guys hah wait until you get CookOut

I think I had it in Virginia beach and I was not impressed by their corn dogs and onion rings.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

You’re supposed to get a quesadilla with a side of quesadilla.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Bahahahahahahahahah holy gently caress you're missing out if you're not watching this impeachment defense

They're currently screaming about the lack of a discovery process

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I’d watch it but the rotating station at work is set to Fox News and I really don’t want to view anything through that lens

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

shame on an IGA posted:

Bahahahahahahahahah holy gently caress you're missing out if you're not watching this impeachment defense

They're currently screaming about the lack of a discovery process

So is the crux of their defense at this point.

"ALL THIS EVIDENCE IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!"

It's a pretty good strategy all things considered

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

mlmp08 posted:

It’s fine to be angry about funding and prioritization. It’s hosed! But it doesn’t follow that the result should be screwing over the people with the absolute least possible influence on those decisions: children.

It shouldn't be the result but...
This is the same line of poo poo we get every time we try to organize and demand better conditions or funding or health. The responsibility for the decisions that created the situation is nebulous, but if we walk out we're the ones responsible for hurting the kids. Every loving time.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

This motherfucker just said dems faked the tape of trump's rally on 1/6 to make the crowd look bigger and there was actually barely anyone there at all.

He will be fired at the first recess and I will be shocked if Trump isn't already on a plane to washington. There's no way, NO WAY his ego can allow that to stand.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

Defenestrategy posted:

So is the crux of their defense at this point.

"ALL THIS EVIDENCE IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!"

It's a pretty good strategy all things considered

I feel like I’m watching Fox News with a lot of quickly snipped together shots, which ironically is what they are claiming the Dems did.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Can we change the name of the thread to just the word Fight repeated until the title limit.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
They've played this video once already in it's entirety.

This is ridiculous.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Trump might as well just say " yeah I did it, so what!?"

Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 12, 2021

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Classic trumpy thing - he knows you're going to support him, so he's going to go maximum dumb just so you look dumber for supporting him. Then later, behind your back, he will call you weak and dumb for going along with his dumb.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RtL6ktlDas


Jim Cornette managed the Midnight Express and is probably the closest to a friend of Stan still involved with the business at all



im pretty convinced its true. and its amazing.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
I just tuned in and I hate the way this guy says over and also what is he talking about

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
What the hell kind of defense is that montage

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

boop the snoot posted:

I just tuned in and I hate the way this guy says over and also what is he talking about

They're trying to fill 16 hours and have no actual defense. It's nothing but whataboutism, false equivalencies, slippery slopes that senators will have to do their job, and fox news cuts of democratic officials saying things. They've played this same video 3 times now at least.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

boop the snoot posted:

What the hell kind of defense is that montage

Whataboutism. It's their primary defense.

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