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Kunabomber posted:newegg GPU bundles usually include a Z-tier PSU that has the tendency to explode Those bad reviews are all recent, highly suspect and likely fraudulent to force a return. The customer reviews on other sites are mostly excellent. If a PSU was exploding even 5% of the time it would have been recalled by now.
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I like my current psu and motherboard just fine; I don't need another. My main gripe is about it being a form of tied selling, which is extremely lovely to do even under circumstances which would make it legal.
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Kunabomber posted:newegg GPU bundles usually include a Z-tier PSU that has the tendency to explode Are those the MSIs that were getting bundled for a while? Every legit review I read or seen on those are actually quite positive other than some personal preference things like cable shapes and the like. I think they're built from the same OEM that does other big name highly regarded psu so I'm not sure why those would be garbage. I actually have one and quite like it. I haven't had it for very long though
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Since it looks like the easiest way to score a 3000 series card (w/o paying 2x MSRP) is buying a prebuilts, I'm hoping Compaq makes a comeback.
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Fauxtool posted:Those bad reviews are all recent, highly suspect and likely fraudulent to force a return. The customer reviews on other sites are mostly excellent. They're probably not great PSUs and you'd be a fool to run them close to their limit, but if you're just using them for a cheap second build file server or something they're probably serviceable.
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Feb 12, 2021 19:51
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mA posted:Since it looks like the easiest way to score a 3000 series card (w/o paying 2x MSRP) is buying a prebuilts, I'm hoping Compaq makes a comeback. I'm hoping to get a gateway cow computer
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A few pages back, but my company does container shipments out of China, our latest containers are running 23 days behind schedule on the boat alone. Production schedule slippage is on top of shipping delays. And we just had to place deposits to ensure electronic components are made on time, which we've never had to do for our products (appliances). This bullshit is affecting everything.
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From what I heard over here at work is that container shipping costs went from like 1500USD to 9000USD per container (at least at whoever ships our raw materials), just because everything's overbooked.
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I've got a PNY XLR8 Gaming RTX 1660 Super I got from Best Buy a week ago I'd sell to somebody who has no other graphics. It's a smaller card with one fan but has good reviews, I got it for $340 which I admit sounds expensive, but what can you do.
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Fauxtool posted:Those bad reviews are all recent, highly suspect and likely fraudulent to force a return. The customer reviews on other sites are mostly excellent. Eh, I guess you haven't been following computer hardware for that long. In the mid-2000s, there were countless PSUs on the market that simply could never hope to deliver even their rated output, and would die, every time, by design. "800W" PSUs that could barely wheeze past 250 holding spec, for example. You can probably find some old round-ups from quality sites like Jonny Guru, but you might have to go digging. I think people also have forgotten that many cases simply came with PSUs, and most often those were of very dubious quality. If they didn't die at their rated load, they'd often be so far out of spec with regards to ripple that your system was unstable vv I know that things are a lot better now, and although it's not PSU related; did you follow the NZXT H1 fire issue? That's fresh and recent, and NZXT was just hoping to toss people some nylon screws to cover up a serious design flaw, but long haired Steve kept at it until they issued a full recall HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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HalloKitty posted:Eh, I guess you haven't been following computer hardware for that long. In the mid-2000s, there were countless PSUs on the market that simply could never hope to deliver even their rated output, and would die, every time, by design. "800W" PSUs that could barely wheeze past 250 holding spec, for example its not the mid 2000s and the current internet outrage machine would not permit a product from a major brand like that to exist.
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https://twitter.com/tomshardware/status/1360356456084738053?s=19 The shelves: 
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I bought a 3070 bundle with a Gigabyte PSU that is rated by the people who rate those things as 'unsafe'. Needless to say I got rid of that the same day my GPU arrived with it.
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I can't believe this 30-series nonsense is still going on. Or this crypto nonsense either for that matter. Well, unrelated to that I dug up this video for an LP I'm doing but I figure you GPU nerds will enjoy it. Halo/Nvidia
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It feels like years ago that I checked if I had three PCI-e cables to connect to my sure-to-be impending GPU upgrade.
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ufarn posted:It feels like years ago that I checked if I had three PCI-e cables to connect to my sure-to-be impending GPU upgrade. Yeah, sure looked like "more power efficient" was going to be the trend only ~2 years ago. WELP.
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lmao, I just checked to see how we are doing on the whole 12-pin cable rollout, and companies like Seasonic have already ended their free cable program. Maybe next generation we'll try it again.
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Nvidia just has to require that AIB's use 12 pin connectors and it'll be adopted over night.
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Someone explain to me what trouble nvidia and Samsung are having again. I understand AMD is stretched due to having to provide for its CPUs, GPUs, the PS5, and XBOX and they can't increase their share of TSMC's 7nm process. What trouble are Samsung's fabs having? The thread was saying low yields awhile ago, but that's not looking like the case?
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There's nowhere close to enough fab capacity in the world to meet demand. There's less demand for Samsung 8nm, sure, but still far more than supply. Also as far as Nvidia GPUs go, demand is astronomical. Supply levels are at least equivalent to the last few generations, but far more people want them.
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mA posted:Since it looks like the easiest way to score a 3000 series card (w/o paying 2x MSRP) is buying a prebuilts, I'm hoping Compaq makes a comeback. Legit why I almost bought a Falcon Northwest a few months ago but I decided I like doing the actual building too much.
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K8.0 posted:There's nowhere close to enough fab capacity in the world to meet demand. There's less demand for Samsung 8nm, sure, but still far more than supply. I call bullshit on the 3080 supply Vs a 2080 or a 1080. It started horrendous and never improved.
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spunkshui posted:I call bullshit on the 3080 supply Vs a 2080 or a 1080. Demand is the difference. You can't find them because they are getting bought. Tons of people on here have 3000 series cards and the usage numbers largely match previous releases. There have definitely been some shipping issues and such but the overwhelmingly biggest difference is demand.
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sorry if this is more appropriate for the laptop thread, but does anyone have an opinion on a Ryzen's Vega iGPU versus Xe on a Tiger Lake versus an Ice Lake with an MX 350? I'm not really looking for any heavy gaming, and I expect that the MX 350 is still going to be better than any iGPU just by dint of being a dedicated card with its dedicated VRAM even if it is a cut-down mobile 1050, but I've never really looked closely at how laptops fared in the GPU game so I'm looking for a more informed take.
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You have to wonder if it's possible for a videocard to be hardware locked from mining Ponzi coins. Then you also have to wonder if it would make sense to do so (If it's even possible) in a Capitalist system.
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gradenko_2000 posted:sorry if this is more appropriate for the laptop thread, but does anyone have an opinion on a Ryzen's Vega iGPU versus Xe on a Tiger Lake versus an Ice Lake with an MX 350? 1080p I assume? The new Xe is a pretty decent little chip tbh. This is it running on a 720p device where it does really well imo. https://youtu.be/8yHmx5sylMI I have an 10th gen intel chip and it games at 720p pretty drat good.
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It’s ultimately a supply problem because the manufacturers want to get more cards out there, not reduce demand for the existing supply.
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spunkshui posted:I call bullshit on the 3080 supply Vs a 2080 or a 1080. Cryptocurrency mining is, in my opinion, the primary problem. It's far worse than it's been before. It's now profitable to buy gaming laptops with high end NVIDIA cards in, and stack them on shelves for mining. Gaming laptops!! They've never been good value, so it really shows how much of a problem it is. When Ethereum goes proof-of-stake, it might help, but that's not certain at all, as it could be they all pivot to another rising currency instead. But the profitability angle might change, so you might see the less profitable hardware dumped on to the market. Of course there are other issues that plague supply chains right now, but as people have pointed out, the Steam hardware survey shows a similar percentage of people owning 3000 series cards as 1000 series cards at the same point in their lifecycles, crapping all over 2000 series adoption HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:sorry if this is more appropriate for the laptop thread, but does anyone have an opinion on a Ryzen's Vega iGPU versus Xe on a Tiger Lake versus an Ice Lake with an MX 350? The mx350 kinds sucks. A vega8 goes back and forth against it. It has some advantage due to dedicated vram, but then loses it in old architecture. Xe is pretty similar to vega, both are surprisingly nice for integrated graphics, and the total power package when using only iGPU is impressive. I probably wouldn't rely on any gaming outside basically mobile-level stuff like slay the spire and then like with those options though. Laptop graphics get really pretty good around the 1660 level and beyond though.
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Lockback posted:The mx350 kinds sucks. A vega8 goes back and forth against it. It has some advantage due to dedicated vram, but then loses it in old architecture. Xe is pretty similar to vega, both are surprisingly nice for integrated graphics, and the total power package when using only iGPU is impressive. Thank you. I don't think I can justify the step-up to anything with a real dedicated GPU, so I will probably just get a Ryzen. I do know that Warhammer Vermintide ran exceptionally well on my wife's Ryzen 3500U for something only running on an iGPU.
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I played Borderlands 2 and a few other relatively newish games all the way through on my XPS 13 recently (UHD 630 I think?), newer integrated graphics are fine for older games/if you drop the settings a bit
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gradenko_2000 posted:Thank you. I don't think I can justify the step-up to anything with a real dedicated GPU, so I will probably just get a Ryzen. Check the laptop thread. There's some decent deals to be had and if you have a bit of patience you might be able to snag a better gaming laptop than you realize for not terribly much.
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Just sold my 3 year old heavily used 1080 for $450. This market is so stupid.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Just sold my 3 year old heavily used 1080 for $450. This market is so stupid. I bought a used 1070 Ti for $430 on ebay 2 and a half years ago, and I just sold it today for $450. The whole thing is crazy.
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Can I get some Fs in chat for my 1080ti. I was praying that the mb failed but swapping in a 780 worked ok. Died 2 months after the warranty expired and I wasn't planning on upgrading for another 2 years.
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Nullset posted:I bought a used 1070 Ti for $430 on ebay 2 and a half years ago, and I just sold it today for $450. The whole thing is crazy. hard to explain a market where it has been profitable to buy up all of the SCALPED cards at times. if you bought all the scalped cards around christmas and held them like 3 weeks they almost all went up at least 50% a number of my friends have gotten good deals on 1070 / 1070ti at the beginning of this upgrade cycle madness and could resell them for $150+ profit 
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